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Silver68 6th Oct 2020 17:53

Yes. Many have been notified today to start the process.

tonker 6th Oct 2020 20:15

Hopefully it won’t be a short stay when they return.....

Count von Altibar 7th Oct 2020 12:01

Maybe they're being called back to fly, let's hope so. I read the other day QR were going to ramp up flying.

Flying Clog 7th Oct 2020 16:30

That's it chaps! Spread the 'rona', just like you did in the beginning. That'll learn them! At least you'll make a few bucks on the way! Sod the lot!

Silver68 7th Oct 2020 16:39

Yup, Qatar Airways sure have a lot of explaining to do..... spreading that virus. Imagine if other airlines flew during a pandemic.

fatbus 7th Oct 2020 20:08

They don't care about the virus . Future market share =$$$

Lucifer786 8th Oct 2020 09:58

Would be nice to see the turnaround in their strategy if AAB gets the ‘rona’ … 😬

Jack330 8th Oct 2020 11:12

I’ve heard that a Captain committed suicide because of his termination, hopefully it’s only a rumor, can anyone confirm please ?

light and variable 8th Oct 2020 12:24

Why should anybody "confirm this please" ? This may be your thread but there is nothing intelligent in that question; unless you are perverse enough to be comparing suicide rates across the industry whole . . . ????

Jack330 8th Oct 2020 14:57

Perversion has nothing to do with this mate, read the post properly, I was asking if it was a rumor because that’s what I hope.
I asked because if it happened for real ( and I really hope it didn’t) it could be someone we know.
Maybe you’re the one who lacks intelligence.
this is a rumor forum if you don’t like it just leave, who do you think you are, the sheriff of the forum ?

Flying Clog 8th Oct 2020 15:12

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. It's terrible, but happening all the time. Emirates has had many suicides, both cabin and flight deck. Emirates has blood on their hands, and so has Qatar.

Shame on them.

Pauleg120 10th Oct 2020 17:25

Update
 
Are the redundancies still happening?

Skyfl410 11th Oct 2020 10:39


Originally Posted by Jack330 (Post 10900474)
I’ve heard that a Captain committed suicide because of his termination, hopefully it’s only a rumor, can anyone confirm please ?

Unfortunately seems to be true. 777 Cpt from New Zealand. This is what a friend told me.

captain.weird 11th Oct 2020 14:00

How is the crewing actually currently? Short of pilots, or anything nearby this? A lot of guys have been called back.

desert_dog 11th Oct 2020 20:56

Depending what fleet you talking about. Apparently shortage of people is on 777 where guys are flying 110+ hrs per month, similar situation is on 350 fleet. On other hand 787 seems struggling to scale up new routes as the fleet is not the preferred one right now. (limited cargo utilization and no rest bunks for long double sector duties) for Doha based guys flies 30-40 hrs with lot of flight cancellations due to fleet change. Anyway company ops and planning is clearly looking for any opportunity where to fly and dynamically changing rotation, fleets and adding more and more destinations every month so I would stay positive.

NoodleDriver 11th Oct 2020 22:52

Thank you for the update,
There is very little positivity to be found anywhere these days ..so I'll gladly take this glimmer of hope.
Cheers

Skyfl410 12th Oct 2020 16:53

captain.weird

I doubt they are calling back people who have been made redundant. There are still too many 'Active' pilots out of the country. For us, out of Qr, there is no hope...

captain.weird 12th Oct 2020 17:59

I meant with being called back who were out of QR but kept the job. Not the ones who were made redundant.

RoyHudd 12th Oct 2020 19:41

Any airline that chooses to fly into a wide variety of so many countries, all of which have severe travel restrictions, should be classified as a super-spreader. An airline super-spreader. If these countries into which they operate include Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, and India, the risks are very real. And as for the poor employees of these airlines, they are being widely exposed to the virus from all and sundry passengers. Despatchers, ground crew too. The crews can then spread this pandemic liberally, as can their passengers.

I do not suggest that QR are guilty of this. Nor EK, EY, or WY. Nor PIA or AI. Absolutely not. This could apply to many other carriers.

Whip717 14th Oct 2020 07:59

WY get rid of all expats already, only a few TRE/TRI left until all the locals get trained, then, halas...I hope they don’t need expats in the future, it will be hard for them to offer a competitive package.

Is QR still furloughing pilots?

NoodleDriver 15th Oct 2020 01:20

RoyHudd

You're absolutely right -

The Airlines are spreading a MOST DEADLY virus ..

So DEADLY that 1.09 Million out of the 7.5 BILLION global inhabitants have died from it or about .00014% of the planet.

SirTimAlRedha 15th Oct 2020 03:38

You want not take it so lightly if you did catch it mate

fatbus 15th Oct 2020 03:57

Noodleboy, you might want to ring your head in mate !

expat.pilot 15th Oct 2020 06:33

threatening style
 
The Qatar Airways management style...
You have to apply the one engine taxi procedure or you will be fired... Captain decision regarding flight safety is not anymore.... QROC will decide for you what is safe or not.
You have to stay inside the hotel premises or in the room or you will be fired...
Do not communicate on WhatsApp or you will be fired.. well in fact, they have been fired...

Of course, Qatar Airways does take flight safety very seriously, fatigue is not a factor, it is "legal Captain"...

I can not post the documents yet, but it will come...

fab777 15th Oct 2020 07:46

one death per 1000 inhabitants in Peru. 1 per 1300 in the USA.

expat.pilot 15th Oct 2020 11:49

more redundancies
 
The latest, coming from a high Habibi level,
300 to 400 pilots to be made redundant by the end of October....

expat.pilot 15th Oct 2020 11:51

Pilots locked outside Doha
 
Same Habibi has confirmed those blocked outside Qatar and just called to come back to Doha will be made redundant... Guys, get ready...

flyer4life 15th Oct 2020 12:06

NoodleDriver

Actually that’s 0.014% :8

TKFD 15th Oct 2020 12:46

expat.pilot

Presumably this is the same “Habibi” as you put it or you are part of the same group of “scaremongerers” who have said something similar about everyone who has returned so far.
Ive flown with several people who have recently returned and they have all told me that once they got back and completed their quarantine then life was very normal work wise... rostered for the required recurrent training sessions then straight back flying the line.

It makes total sense to me that in the past week or so there seems to be another group of pilots being processed to come back as the Airline is announcing more increases to its schedule. They need more pilots and the pilots who have been in Doha this whole time can’t fly 110+ hours per month forever.

If you’re on your way back to Doha please ignore
those people on here whose sole objective is to scare and worry their so called colleagues. Some of them get a sick and twisted kick out of it for some reason!

Count von Altibar 15th Oct 2020 12:53

This sounds brutal, so the guys are coming back to be given the boot. I definitely read somewhere recently that QR were going to expand flying.

Papa_Golf 15th Oct 2020 13:32


Originally Posted by expat.pilot (Post 10904818)
Do not communicate on WhatsApp or you will be fired..

This sums up the whole crew regulations chapter.

expat.pilot 15th Oct 2020 19:47

TKFD

Time will tell... Hold your breath!
But your words sound like a manager speech, that is pretty interesting. It sounds like everyone's happy and not fatigue, especially on the 350 and 777...

expat.pilot 16th Oct 2020 14:02

Fatigue survey
 
Fatigue survey....
Habibi told me it was requested by QRC (Qatar Airways Clinic) AMEs as there were too many cases of pilots exhausted showing up at the clinic following flights and during their class 1 renewals.
Remember what Fleet said and shut your mouth.
All the rosters are legal. Any fatigue report will be thoroughly looked at. This will be your fault, not the company fault.

Solidarity program
Habibi said thank you for your solidarity towards the Qatari staff who are not under the solidarity program. Your forced agreement makes them happy, they have recovered their salary with their yearly step increase.
The Baker is very grateful you understand you have to lose your money, work hard, this is the happyness solidarity program.

CDRW 17th Oct 2020 05:03

expat.pilot

You forgot to add one more thing...
" and if you don't like it, you can Foxtot Oscar back to where you cam from"

The airline has us by the balls ( figuratively speaking for the lady pilots out there) right now. BUT things will change and as a community - we wont forgot.

lucille 17th Oct 2020 11:09

Nah. The “community” will forget in 30 seconds. A job offer with a new type rating causes instant amnesia. Most will do anything to fly a shiny new type. And in 5 years a whole new generation will appear who won’t even know what Covid19 was.

cabbages 17th Oct 2020 11:24

So True....There is no community amongst pilots. It's everyone for themselves. Some pilot, somewhere, will always accept whatever terms are offered.

Themeatfleet 17th Oct 2020 12:42

lucille

So True!!! “Community” amongst pilots is non existent. There are more than enough who’d steal from their grandma’s just to get a shiny jet type rating and the occasional brunch Instagram snap..... and who won’t hesitate to crawl over anyone or any T’s & C’s on the way. The people who run airlines know this and have exploited it in the past and will exploit it again 🤣

Count von Altibar 17th Oct 2020 13:54

Themeatfleet you are so right, this has been a major part of the reason for our downfall as a profession.

Flying Clog 17th Oct 2020 18:31

Very depressing. No honour amongst thieves (us pilots that is). Not to mention the blood sucking airlines who will stop at nothing to screw over the profession.

expat.pilot 19th Oct 2020 11:38

Captain, you are now the engineer
 
As it was not possible to give more rest to flight deck crew, our super Habibi management found it would be good to give them more to do.
"Pre-flight check by flight crew in Doha" ACN, or how to save few more pennies towards the Solidarity program...
Obviously, you ain't tired enough, so the FDP won't change, but please you can go earlier to the aircraft, let's be on time!
Let's make passengers fly safe,
Let's make pilots fly more...
QatarAirways, let's crash together!
I am surprise this ACN is not raising the now so traditional "you will be fired" lovely message.


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