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pfvspnf 26th Mar 2021 16:50

Python27

they are on snap and tik tok now , hiring all the time

CDRW 28th Mar 2021 03:25

Great observation immapostthis and remarkably true. QR is a very immature airline that is supported by unlimited funds. Casper ( AB) regards himself as an industry titan who can bully his airline to magnificence. The goat emblem reaches all over the world. The immaturity in how the airline handled this pandemic and the staff will be a case study for the future. Such as pilots and Cabin crew hitting the roster refresh button to see if they been terminated! Great HR policy. Great for crew moral and great for airline safety.

I predict QR salaries will rise significantly when aviation recovers from this debacle - principally because new applicants will view the T&Cs as insulting.

lindros76 28th Mar 2021 10:47

Guys, as a redundant crew, I am still wondering why did they fire 99% of junior crew? What was the main explanation?
As far as I am concerned, almost all Emirates junior cabin crew were sent back home on unpaid leave, and they all started flying six months later.
Thanks.

Flapsupbedsdown 29th Mar 2021 07:50

Fire and re-hire at a lower rate is much easier probably

Python27 31st Mar 2021 02:59

They really don't need to do it, since they already shown all the expats that the contracts signed by them are worthy and relevant as used toilet paper....

Commitment and professionalism are merely applicable in one way direction at this place.

Ticker1 1st Apr 2021 16:39

Heard the news today that between 1,200 to 900 pilots will be recall in the next 2 months, they send approximately 500 emails to 350 and 787 guys.

obelix360 1st Apr 2021 17:37

I hope it's a reality and not an April Fool's joke! :)

gpsprimary01 1st Apr 2021 19:35

if it’s an April joke, it’s not so funny.
this is approximately the numbers of crew they have made redundant. How come they will rehire them within 2 months knowing that they are locking the country down again. From where you got that source ? Thanks

mutt 1st Apr 2021 19:47

Considering that they are now advertising 40 flights a week to Saudi Arabia, who is going to fly them?

lindros76 1st Apr 2021 20:29


Originally Posted by Flapsupbedsdown (Post 11018400)
Fire and re-hire at a lower rate is much easier probably

It makes perfect sense. No regrets, they don't work. It will be interesting to see what happens but only from the outside.

Xavelha 1st Apr 2021 21:05

Not funny if it really is a joke.
although if it were to be true, doubt they would
have those numbers ready to go back. A few dozens, at the very least, are definitely not going back

tundrapilot 1st Apr 2021 22:09

It is a joke. April fool's day !
Ticker one your joke was smart but maybe some people didn't like it which is understandable

fatbus 1st Apr 2021 22:16

A bad joke considering what some people are going through !

Xavelha 1st Apr 2021 22:16

What part, if anything, was smart in that joke ?

filejw 2nd Apr 2021 00:59


Originally Posted by Ticker1 (Post 11020615)
Heard the news today that between 1,200 to 900 pilots will be recall in the next 2 months, they send approximately 500 emails to 350 and 787 guys.

Hopefully not a joke for you folks as on this side of pond the major airlines are talking about new hires soon.

fatbus 2nd Apr 2021 02:25

UA/AA/DL hiring soon? Really ? AC/WJ sure not !

007busdriver 2nd Apr 2021 08:13

Oh they're re hiring while some countries going to full lockdown again.. Obviously joke, a bad one.. :/

Silver68 2nd Apr 2021 09:35

well I had the call back, as did many friends. 🤷🏻‍♂️

gpsprimary01 2nd Apr 2021 11:44

Very good Silver68. I wish you all the best during this rejoining programme.
Do you have any feedback from your colleague or by your self about the terms and conditions for the rejoining programme.
Do they send you a manual to study at home? D
What about all this courses like CRM SEP? are you going to attend the course online or at DOH?
And what about the working conditions? do you recover your id number and same salary (with 25% reduction) or it's lower rate?
Sorry for all that questions :-)

fatbus 2nd Apr 2021 14:37

It's a slow process, would not count on new hires for awhile and that does not mean the industry has recovered . You have to look at the global impact. Jobs lost compared to jobs regained overall. EK as an example , only my personal contacts, out of 1500 kicked out @50 have got jobs.

Silver68 2nd Apr 2021 18:06

787/777 fleets

007busdriver 3rd Apr 2021 05:48

so no one from 350 fleet?

Silver68 3rd Apr 2021 06:32

SandPilot350

just to be clear. Many people have been invited back and have submitted the online tests. As far as I know, that is where we are all waiting right now.

A member of the recruitment team will be contacting us shortly... apparently.

mmorel 3rd Apr 2021 07:08

What is the online test for? Is it technical?

Silver68 3rd Apr 2021 11:45

No. Personality tests. 🤦🏻

Flapsupbedsdown 3rd Apr 2021 15:58

:ugh:HR super powers!!

lfbb 3rd Apr 2021 21:37

If you stop and think about it, makes total sense a personality (psychological) test to asse how much damage the separation processe has caused to an individual. Specially the way it was handled by the company... I bet lots of people left the company carrying back home some hard feelings, maybe HR is trying to filter those individuals. I know it sounds crazy but that's how their "Indian heads" work.

fatbus 3rd Apr 2021 22:58

The sub continent mafia will prevail!

007busdriver 4th Apr 2021 00:24

lfbb

makes sense to me tho..

Ticker1 4th Apr 2021 06:01


Originally Posted by gpsprimary01 (Post 11020691)
if it’s an April joke, it’s not so funny.
From where you got that source ? Thanks

Half of it was a joke the other half is not (i don’t know the exact number of recalls yet), my source doesn’t come from Flt ops as i used to be in the banking sector before so i know a few of these cats that are pretty high up in companies most will never hear of it but i will give you two hints auditors and fiscal year.

Apologies to any that got upset it was not my intentions to fool you around.

flyfor 6th Apr 2021 01:56

FlyingAce77, please tell me that you are kidding:

Aslam Kareem - a nice guy?
He is the one who operates the guillotine.

FlyingAce77 6th Apr 2021 01:59

I wanted someone to read between the lines” You did, I appreciate it! :)

He is the King Maker right now in QR, You want NOC butter him up, You want to extend your stay Butter Him Up, You want your EOSB Butter him up. He is just a “Manager” but with the Powers of “Chief”.

flyfor 6th Apr 2021 10:00

Yet, both of them are just 5 feet high.

flareflyer 6th Apr 2021 12:34

Hello gents
just for curiosity what is now with the reduced contract the actual income for a captain?
do you still have provident fund? Housing allowance? Educational allowance?

gpsprimary01 11th Apr 2021 14:34

Hi Guys, it's been a while. everyone is so quiet :-) . i've just talked to a friend who still employed by QR. Looks like they have stopped the redundancy because they are starting their new financial year in April 2021 (It doesn't mean they won't redundant staff, but they were rushing to do it before 01st of April).

Does anyone knows if they've implemented a procedure to bring back staff who were outside DOHA?
Especially for pilots? any manual for rejoining pilots ? and what happen if the rating expire? how to get back an RP?

I hope one of you could have an answer to these questions.

God luck to all.

dajaaj 11th Apr 2021 16:45

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us.”by: Stephen King

..so the saying goes, i hope most of us (redundant flight crews) would think a million times and reflect how we get to where we are right now....just my 2cents.

Silver68 12th Apr 2021 10:01

Anyone care to explain the rationale behind Qatar laying off pilots prior to the dnd of the financial year? Heard this already but I don’t understand the benefit to the airline only to rehire a few months later...

gpsprimary01 12th Apr 2021 11:34

Hi Silver68, it's probably linked to the budget of their financial year.

Papa_Golf 12th Apr 2021 13:20

Rationale and Qatar in the same sentence. Not a common sight.

CDRW 14th Apr 2021 11:44

Its difficult to fathom the level of incompetence in the QR Flight Ops / Man Power management with the latest e mail.


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