Can you be fired whilst out of the country? It would be impossible to complete the formalities for one. Who's to say those pilots who are locked out of Qatar will survive the cull upon their return.

On the contrary Staff is resigning outstation” Many CC have resigned & were told by HR/Welfare their Friends can collect their stuff & EOSB.
Haven’t heard as of today Employee being laid off while stuck outstation...
I did a month or so was told that some Chinese & Korean Crew were laid off outstation but I can’t verify it”

Have QR actually informed the pilots there of the selection criteria for redundancy or is it just totally random still?

Nope nothing told. Criteria, fleet, how many, how long for the redundancy programme to continue, no communication. Even people who had the meetings, upon asking the same questions were told sorry can’t disclose.

Well thats how ppl have been terminated over there always. Not surprised it's how they are doing it now as well

That's pretty disgusting to make people redundant and not inform them as to the reasons why they were selected. It doesn't take much effort to show a bit of professionalism and transparency in the process and in turn some compassion toward their employees. Good luck to all in QR, at least they seem to be flying more than most.

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Your modus operandi is resourceful but did you take into account that there is a significant proportion of Captains (mixed fleet trainers) who appear on both lists ie 380/320 etc.

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Lordflasheart

Total waste of time. Could not ask any questions. More of the same from AAB.

So as Qatar opens its borders to resident permit holders on 1st August, how many of the stranded pilots have been notified they may return?

Webinar - Well there's a surprise -
 

UAL 777 - Thanks for trying, and especially for reporting back. I will look to see how AWST spins it.

Silver68

The problem here is QR being the Sponsor has to apply for return permit and this can only happen from 1st of August, most probably if stranded pilots are to come in, they would start coming in from 2nd week of August because no one knows how long does the permit take to get issued...

One would wonder if these stranded pilots...the minute they got back into doha, would they be sent to tower2 and told to go 🤔

Anyone has thoughts about more Doha pilots getting the chop after Eid holiday? Me yes I thinks so, but I'm speaking to a lot of optimistic people around the compound who are adamant the focus will now be on the outsiders.

Interesting. What makes you so adamant in this regard?

I believe that More Heads will be chopped be it In Doha or those who are stuck outside, why? Because I know someone who wanted to resign and was stuck outside and was told that You first need to come back in and then resign” He is a FD” and CC is still being laid off, most recent layoffs happened just couple of days ago, F2s in the country and flying were laid off - Dozen that is...
more tough times ahead..

I believe you’re right. However, the pilots in my compound freely admit to not knowing anything more than the next person. This isn’t over until it’s over. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed we don’t get the call. As for the pilots who are stranded, some of which took unpaid leave at the company's request, are no more, no less in the cross hairs.

I don't see those on LWOP or currently stranded being a target over anyone else. The issues are far greater then that .

Serious times and although QR seem to be responding much better than many airlines I guess the chopping will continue as the company reacts to the developing crisis. I'll bet there's a lot of pilots having sleepless nights wondering if they're next, can't be good for anyone's health nor flight safety. What a pity there isn't any transparency to the process, at least people could plan accordingly.

Its not only QR that lacks Clarity but the Country itself, Non the less, I hope for the best but always prepare for the worse.

next round of layoff started
 

next round of layoff started last week . There are letting go of most senior pilots even on B787 and A350.

Any news on those stranded pilots? Think they started letting permit holders back on the 1st but no idea about priority...

mmorel

Are we talking about only first officers here or captains also ??

And surprisingly a lot of the skippers from the sub continent have been spared the axe so far … 😳

This round is about Captain and they have already redundant more than 200 senior captain.

Imagine you fly back to doha after your duty and then they wipe your schedule for the rest the months . They are trying to terminate captain with higher seniority since they are getting more money that younger captains.

in other countries if they are trying to ask senior pilot to voluntary quit it's because they have retirement scheme .

In Qatar airways they should at least let senior flight crew to work because they can reduce their salary.

Letting all the senior bods go ain't a good idea for experience levels on the flight deck, I guess it's all about the $$$!

Typical Middle East though. Experience means nothing only $$$ :(

Middle east?? Sorry to say it is worldwide.

What happened to the days when experience was of value? I swear I should put PPL and 40hrs TT to stand the best chance of getting/keeping a job these days!

Does anyone know if we can sue Qatar Airways?

I was flying more than 90 hours per months during FEB -August and still they force us to use all of our vacations so basically 15 days off being prison in doha and then 15 days of intense flying and then right after maxing out our hours for the following month they terminated us.
They forced us to work in dangerous situation and lay over in hotels that we might get Corona and then once they used all of out vacation times they terminated people.

I think there should be a way to sue and make this public to the world

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Re-think. Clear your head. Forget your hurt pride. Look for brighter future.

Wise words.

mmorel

Flood the safety office with fatigue reports.

Does anyone know once they terminate your contract , Would you still get housing allowance for three months notice period ? or you have to move back to company accommodation?
imagine you have one year lease contract and they terminate you in the middle of the month .
Thanks,

Yes you do. Salary plus usual allowances for 90 days.

Thanks GDAJB
So if you leave earlier for example after 30 days will they still pay you the allowance for the remaining 60 days?

Yes, they do. It is payment in lieu of notice, so you can leave once the paperwork is complete.

mmorel

Acc to local law, you can terminate the leasing contract and have your whole deposit paid back to you as long as it is due to loss of employment.

If you were given discounts like free months etc. they have to calculate the rent pro rata.

What's the story with the chinese CAA not accepting qatari licenses?