Chinese CAA = Law unto whatever they want. Accept or walk away.

Qatar accept licences from most countries, some of the countries that the Qatar licence is based on may be unacceptable to CAAC. Try your original licence instead, however there may be issues with currency for medical and I/R.

I sympathise to a certain degree. But 'the World' watched as Al Bakar declared C19 was not a threat. Qatar maintained or even ramped up service (and prices) without pre flight covid testing, dumping many tens of thousands of potentially infected (or newly infected from the flight) passengers into our major cities with catastrophic results especially in the UK which I concede was negligent too. This as other airlines actually although no saints, cut back. The death toll and damage has been huge.

Although there are lots of sad financial, schooling and loss of dream cases in the industry. There has been a huge death toll, hardship, misery and ongoing catastrophic economic demise globally. We should take time to reflect on how we as a pilot body together with our industry have knowingly proliferated this pandemic and hope for robust future measures protecting crew, industry workers and last but not least the vulnerable populations of the nations to which we operate.

I have been home for a considerable amount of time now, and like my fellow associates I still haven’t been payed. Any idea what the “normal” amount of time they take to pay. My last pay packet was end of June!

They usually cancel your exit permit and you can't leave Qatar until they calculate the right amount for your services.

My last day was April 23.... I received end of service benefits rather quick- last pay check came end of June , so more than 2 months

casablanca
did you stay two months before leaving qatar?

Planeur! You doth talk out of your ass!

QR have today announced an expansion of its flight programme to the UK. Could this be better news?

mmorel

no....once they determined you are owed more money than you have obligations in Qatar then you are allowed to leave almost immediately......
I had to ask to leave asap for another job start date

New wave 😞

care to share?

Honestly, after four loooong years, i am delighted to know i was made redundant. Yes i know it's not the best moment to lose my job, but with the money, I worked hard for I can carry on for a while. The day I received the call from HR I WAS SHOCKED! Now after nearly two months I really don't miss the airline, the turnaround flights, the sleepless nights, the threatening emails from the company and the silly eLearnings on grooming.

Pilots and Cabin crew are just way stressed out by the company. On 350, the last three-four months started to become worst than hell. 130/140 hrs per month, Europe and Asia turnaround paid half of the salary, a good friend on 350 did SYD turnaround and got paid only 6 hours. Even with fewer flights most fight deck crew are stressed and fatigued ( I still wonder how QR roster managed this ).....The fear of getting a call is always round the corner. You never know when HR will call you.... the same thing happened to me after a flight I got Roster change and a phone call from HR. The company doesn't give any communication on when the redundancy will stop which creates great stress on personnel.
Managers are too busy calling pilots to the office regarding WhatsApp groups or social media, this is the only thing that seems to matter to them. They are terrified that the world knows what really goes on.
Recently thirty pilots got terminated / redundant for gossiping about the airline on a privet WhatsApp group. Qr managers have managed to control all the Whatsapp groups in the pilot community. Also, company accommodation group was closed.

The airline spends a lot of money and recourse on ENDLESS CRM courses taking about teamwork and communication but still, nobody trusts each other and management lacks in proper communication and teamwork.

Pilots and cabin crew are at high risk of being infected but are terrified to call sick days because they could lose their job even for a normal flue. This is QR SAFETY culture ....I don't understand how authorities around the world allow QR to land in their country.

The funny thing is that the national carrier of the worlds wealthiest country behaves like the worlds worst low-cost carriers.

I can say many funny things about them but i have already wasted too much of my time.

Any info you need ask in PM.

stay safe and better days will come.

:ugh: QA "is" Qcaa!!

No you cannot. We are doing layovers in Aus which means hotel room lockdown due current Aus regulations.

apologise, i was not clear..i meant DOH-SYD operating SYD-DOH deadheading back. Keep in mind your not paid for DEAHEADING FLIGHTS and hours spent in the bunk.

Skyfl410

And may I dare to enquire, are these ‘Managers’ Indians who don’t actually fly but are ‘Captains’ nevertheless … hahahahaha

Time to go back to EU,,,forget about this dessert forsaken land

Skyfl410

Nice post, I think exactly the same

Did something similar in the past for an Italian charter company, operating crew to go, 2-3 hours on the ground , and DH back in Y class and uniform. Obviously no possibility to rest on the way back, with service, kids crying, people going to the bathroom etc....
total duty was 26h.....

Did it only once And was destroyed fro the next 3 days.
This will kill people, or driving back home cause your attention level is at the level of your shoes, or simply because your body can’t cope with that.

Shame shame shame!

How to keep QATAR ATPL Valid
 

Hi ,

I was wondering if anyone knows how to keep Qatar ATPL Valid so we can apply for jobs once the situation is over maybe in three years :)

I have an A350 type rating, Do I have to come back to Qatar every year to do my medical?

Thanks

The Indian community works pretty well i never had any issues (personal experience ) The problem is that most of the managers are all BABY Qatari captains. As I said, they are busy with silly things like catching WhatsApp groups and yes.... they don't fly

Lease termination:

I found out in my lease agreement it mentioned I have to give them one-month prior notice and there will be a penalty of one month? Is this true?

"With reference to Clause no. 3 of current contract, shall the tenant be obliged to terminate the lease contract before its expiry date, due to the reason of leaving finally the State of Qatar, there should be One month prior notice and payment of penalty equal to the rent of One month except in case the tenant arranges a replacement as per Landlord terms and conditions. In either case, the remaining post-dated cheques will be returned to the Tenant upon the termination of the lease contract based on presentation of cancelled QID or submission of replacement cheques and handover of the premises in good condition."

The QCAA ATPL is one of the least recognized ATPLs in the world and unfortunately considered amongst the least safest ( whatever that means ).
I was told this by a very popular recruitment agency who refused to accept it on grounds of its extremely low ‘safety quotient‘
🙄

You mean out of 20 hrs in the aircraft you only get paid for....7-8? How come i know people who are so proud to be working in this outfit?

Heey guess what!! If we were all the same, it would be boring.

hamil

Recent GCAA change, and now you can

Does anyone know given the current situation whether a Qatari license would be accepted in UAE/Bahrain/Saudi?

Devastating argument. Perfect fit for the place you live and work.

Finally QR is belatedly implementing a 'No PCR Test - No Fly' policy. Certainly better late than never, but after such wanton profiteering, this will not bring solace to those who were infected (or their grieving relatives as a direct result of unfettered QR travel). And the answer is yes, I do have family and friends affected.

Sometimes the toothless one doth speak the truth.
Planeur,your argument is not without merit!

Fired600

that’s right. A friend from the unmentionable verified this

Any update?

please find below stats for terminated Qatar Airways's Captain between May and July 25th of August. They started to lay off more flight crew after 25th of July but I do not have the stats.
A350 38
A330 62
A380 22
B777 35
B787 48
A320 25

Any criterion for the layoffs ?
Lack of Performance, sick days off etc etc ?

Being a member of any QR related whatsapp group is THE criterion.

I'm surprised they're making A350 and B787 pilots redundant, I thought those ratings would be keepers.

Over staffed on all fleet , trim now worry about fleet requirements later . Sub continent mafia remaining ?

Cutting ppl but bringing back those who were stuck overseas.. hmm..

Planeur. It was not an argument. It was a statement.

Ok I will bite. You wrote this drivel " .....dumping many tens of thousands....." ".....this as other airlines cut back....".

Your intention is to give the picture of Qatar Airways sucking up the worlds Covid infected people and forcing (as you say " dumping) them on various cities throughout out the world.

Most of those " infected passengers" were infact your fellow citizens who had been stranded by their booked ailines shutting down operations leaving them abandoned on the other side of the world. I am sure these rescued passengers would appreciate your comments of them being "dumped" into your precious Blighty and going forth to infect their fellow citizens. Many airlines did these rescue flights. But your silence on them is loud and speaks volume on your intent. Which gives rise to the thought that you probably have an axe to grind against QR. You a QR applicant failure, perhaps?

And oh - not for one second do I believe that had it been you and your loved ones taking a holiday in the Far East or Austrslia, and the prospect of being stranded in that country- you would have been active to tell everyone to stay put and see the pandemic out in the foreign country! No - you would have gladly been one of the " infected or about to be infected" people to be flown back to Blighty and been "dumped" on British soil!

I guess you're missing some numbers, I had someone check the rosters in the Company iPad and more than 500 pilots are not there anymore, last weeks they did three more rounds of elimination of about 160 pilots.