I would say more.More likely in the upper 40s.

FlyingAce77

WOW …!!!
At the very least an accident waiting to happen … very disconcerting indeed.
🤔

Cutting the wishful thinking and coming back to the real world, the TBN pilots got a call for a meeting on monday...

As expected! Really sorry for the A320 FC & their families... This is a never ending Mess, and no timeline given when will these redundancies stop.

At a dinner a fellow colleague shared every month Balance Sheet is presented to the Chief & with a Loss he passes orders to Layoff employees 200-300 ... This is how layoffs are continuing- atleast according to a colleague.

Lucifer786

Even with upper 40% it is a alarming time indeed for Fleet Managers, Flight Safety & QR Management at QR Towers .. They should be worried but they aren’t worried about the imminent disaster - their worries constitute “Marketing” of the Brand..

Sounds really bizarre what's going on at QR, as if there's no defined plan just winging it. Seems like the employees are left hanging not knowing what's coming next which must be highly stressful for all. There'll come a day when they need pilots again and many will be nervous to commit to moving (or moving back) to Doha knowing what's come before with respect to the bad handling of this crisis.

There never was a Plan When layoffs started in March from Technical Department, they were going Watch as you go” & decide.

Absolutely, don't believe what QA or local media is saying.
They fired thousands and rehired few, just to show off.
Typical QA respond to pilots that were willing to come back was "We hope this email finds you well. Thank you for your interest in rejoining,... but NO!"
It will be beautiful watching World Cup 2022 sitting on the couch and sipping beer without QDC license.

Qatar Airways Helping Stranded Cabin Crew Nearly 12-Months After They Were Locked Out
 

wow , they are rehiring those FAs who were locked out of the country after firing off 1/3 of FAs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pad...e-country/amp/

I can confirm you, this is only the SIDL Crew that were stuck outside because of border closures, on the other hand, Crew that left on ULV in May are all laid off outstation or in the process of receiving emails and phone calls...

This said, SIDL crew that Is being called back are made to sign New Contract with a Basic of 2800QAR depending on how many years they have been in QR & mostly who were stuck outside are Either CSD, CS, and or F1s..

On the other hand QR is operating with a Min Crew, like on a recent flight to a European Country there were 200 Y Class Pax and only 3 Cabin Crew- it was Hell for those poor souls” literally working like slaves at FL340.

Habibti says that 200 FD Crew were in the Separation department today” Most were from A320 Fleet... More over, She even saw Cabin Crew Literally Begging to get their EOSB so that they can leave... Sad sad sad times
QR will have to pay for all this Mismanagement and in-justice that the employees have to go through- The depression, Stress, Emotional Breakdowns...

Any more layoffs on the 350 fleet ?

FlyingAce77

Does QR have any flight crew left? It seems a constant stream of sackings.

Numbers are going down, Honestly, have no clue what the management is doing...
habibti even said that Crew that were put in Call Centers are laid off as well..

How will they pay ? They don't care ! Cut from the same cloth as EK . Pick and choose when recall happens and the next wave of newbies line up .

Yeah! What type and how many doors were manned? Sounds like BS to me purely from a regulatory POV!

All doors were manned except 1
it was a B787
There were 3 working in Y
3 working in J apart from the R1
7 Cabin Crew & 2 FD Crew
This is standard now for 78.

Call backs are on going but what about airbus ??? Any news?

I would think atleast the 350 crew, anyone in the know ? Habibi ?

I expect some call backs from 350 too, but when?

If boeing has started to build up airbus shouldn’t be far away

That would sound logical. But ain't true...

So you have some information about that?

WK
Maybe min crew and whatever was left up the middle and front serving biz pax #justsaying

FlyingAce77,

I'm on the 777 so I know very little about the 78.
However, 7 cabin crew on a 78 raised my eyebrows.
A quick Google search of the smallest 787 shows me a pic of 8 doors.
How are they running only 7 cabin crew?
In extreme circumstances you may be able to MEL a door to make it work (pax numbers depending), but no regulatory authority (including destination and overflying) will take that excuse on a daily basis.

So.....you sure of that claim you made?

Adding an addition to this post......
I'm never one to quickly delete a post and then hide in the dark when I'm wrong.
Had a chat to a buddy from QR and he confirmed that the 78 is running with 7.
Personally I am surprised that this is true and it has passed muster. However this seems to be the case.

Yes is true i did it as well not on the 787 in another aircraft i will post a picture but won’t be right to do it in a public forum, and i won’t tell you either which aircraft or manufacture cause i don’t want that you be googling how many CC fit on each door on a Friday night, go an get a beer with your friends if you have any, instead of been googling about aircraft doors lol

The FAA makes no mention of # of doors.

No idea on Qatar specific Regs. Countries that follow the FAA have min cabin crew based on seat numbers installed per aircraft and Evac Certification Demonstrations.

CFR 14.121.391 Flight attendants

https://www.govregs.com/regulations/...1#regulation_5

eternity

Nobody said you were wrong you just couldn’t believe it, and i don’t blame you for it, here is like a different dimension “Unbelievable.”

I've flown many different types, bombardier, Boeing and Airbus to name a few, none that I can remember have ever specified anything to do with the number of cabin crew required related to how many doors an aircraft has, all to do with how many passengers are onboard, usually about 50 pax per CC. Pax are assumed to be capable of opening a door if briefed accordingly

How much the salary now for Capt and FO?

Whitemonk Returns

No way. Only overwing emergency hatch. Any door should be manned by the cabin crew. Unless there are no passengers in the vicinity, and seats in the area placarded unserviceable.

If a door is treated as U/S under the MEL it doesn't need to be manned, however seats nearby are blocked off and pax numbers reduced. Depending on the regulator this can be a useful get home method if you're operating with minimum cabin crew and one goes sick downroute.

Loads are minimal at the moment but being able to operate a flight back with 50 pax offloaded is still better than a cancellation.

Most places use the requirement of 1 cabin crew for each 50 pax. In the past it used to be related to the number of doors, but it's a been a while since many places worldwide changed this requirement for one CC for each 50 pax (with a lot of lobby by the airlines of course).

Just look at the airlines flying the B737-700 and A319. Most use only 3 cabin crew.

The 787-8 at QR is configured for 254 pax, so the minimum number of cabin crew is actually 6.

After you guys stop measuring, let's return to the topic of "Qatar salary reductions and redundancies".

Whitemonk Returns

Check your sources of information, you'll have surprises

guys, just to get back on track and close the unrelated subjects... i wanna summarize the story..
1) more than approximatelly 50% of the flight deck have been made redundant.. mostly from Airbus family..A350 is relatively on the safe side..
2) Boing fleet is flying on the limits.. so they called back some redundant pilots to rejoin and support boing fleet..i also heard some airbus 330 guys also called back to convert and join boing.. i have no idea based on which criteria they have been called..

if anybody knows more please enlighten us..

flyfor

lol exactly,!

Any clue about who’s been recalled so far?

eternity

My claim is 100% right, got to know from the Horses Mouth who operated that particular flight.. The person is not wrong at all”

Heared there are difficulties getting people back who already left, because new RPs are not being issued but people still in country and about to leave who still have RP have been called to stay but dont know details of new salary deals