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CEO PITA 24th Jul 2008 03:06

july
 
What a joke !
Annoucement in april annoucement in june ,then annoucement in july .
True is no annoucement at all becouse litle small man told his top management people "soon we will have pilots from USA and some EU airlines which are going down knocking on QA doors " why should he give anything if he has a rated pilot without job ?

Flyer1015 24th Jul 2008 04:44

No medical exam?

Xaxa 24th Jul 2008 04:48

They check that you have a valid medical, you do the actual medical after you join.

BizPilotBrazil 24th Jul 2008 05:36

Other Question

QR still hiring a non type rated F/O?

QTRminator 24th Jul 2008 06:27

Countdown
 
...6 days to go...

BizPilotBrazil 25th Jul 2008 04:04

Guys,

What is the salary to A320 F/O ?

salamalikum2 25th Jul 2008 04:29

BizpilotBrazil,

Go on page nr 7 of this thread,i put already the details for F/O salary.
Note that from the 1st of july an ERP(exchange rate protection) will be introduced as well,to protect 30% of your basic salary..
Cheers.

Flyer1015 25th Jul 2008 04:34

Any links for airline med standards? Or maybe even Qatar civil aviation medical standards?

Spirit1 25th Jul 2008 06:55

...5 days to go...

Black Stain 25th Jul 2008 10:30

Unless you boys have an allergy to vaseline you should be fine.

ramiyns 25th Jul 2008 11:54

Guys safe your breath and stop the count down.

The pay rise,It turn out to be just rice.
The pay rise is been rejected completely by the CEO.
So stop dreaming,and wake up and deal with inflation and currency depreciation,and enjoy flying for less money.

Two Dogs.... 25th Jul 2008 12:14

No pay rise?? Enough is enough let's strike!! Illegal....Oh

OK, let's all resign together on the same day. Yeah, and any bastard that even applies for a job at Goat Airways after we resign gets put on that Scab List. What we need is an experienced leader, any nominations comrades....

javierdcv 25th Jul 2008 17:24

first officer pre employment assestment
 
Hi,
How are you?
writing from canary islands,spain.
May i ask you about first officer life at QR,salary,housing,roster,interview,etc...
i will go doha the 4th of august for interview..and will appreciate to have an idea what its like.
best regards
thank you
javier del corral videau

javierdcv 25th Jul 2008 17:41

qr gral questions
 
hi,
do you mind togive some details about the life in doha and flying into qr airways??salary,roster,days off,as much as you can give..to have an idea prior my interview??
thank you
best regards
javier

QTRminator 25th Jul 2008 18:55

Well Javier... we're not that good actually, because as you might have seen, we're not getting any salary increase... but thanks for asking.:rolleyes:
I suggest you use the search-function and you will find your answers.
Good luck on your interview.

P.Clostermann 25th Jul 2008 19:31

Great head hunting QR!
 
I heard we have our new SVPO to thank for...apparently it was him who said no payrise was necessary in view of the looming aviation crisis!

THANKS A LOT W.W.!:ugh:

Great introduction in this company mate...thats for sure the way to get the troops behind you!

But than again, there always had to be a reason why you fled the UK! From what I have heard they hate your guts overthere (both your ex-company as well as the UK CAA)

Two Dogs.... 25th Jul 2008 22:22

I nominate Pierre as our Leader!! He has the loudest bark.

Lulu qatar 26th Jul 2008 22:28

salary
 
No Increament On Qr Salary Till Next Sommer

Black Stain 27th Jul 2008 11:15

Publishing your true identity on this gossip site is arrogant and stupid. That pilot dispute was started by arrogance and lost by stupidity:


How I got into this discussion is beyond me? Whereas my thoughts on scabs are well known, they are spoken out loud and not under a pseudonym on an anonymous forum such as this or any other for that matter.
Mate, your thoughts on so called scabs are a practiced barbeque sermon. Eer av a sausage, a beer and my opinion. You wear it like an old scout badge. Why are you surprised when one of your barbeque clowns dumps you in the pot with an ignorant and misguided jab? It is your own endless bitching to impressionable fools; always carefully behind the back you accuse, that now sees a bone pointed at you.

Everyone has heard your story. Let us level the game.

You and your greedy mates tried to hold a nation to ransom. An outrageous 30% pay rise on a softening market. In fact a similar sour global economy that we see now. Your employer, your government, in fact the whole nation didn’t blink when all of you fools resigned en-masse. It is a shame however, that so many young pilots ruined their careers by following the lead of silly old farts. And do you and your mates ever spare a thought for the many local tourism businesses sent to the wall by your actions? Aviation is an essential service, like police, fire brigade, ambulance service. Mass resignation by pilots is morally corrupt.

Scab labor was not used to end that dispute. You ended the dispute yourself, with your resignation. Please don’t now blame the AFAP, maybe if you were as noisy then as your current barbeque rants maybe your path would have been different. This scab list is a vengeful old fart fabrication and referred to by few employers anyway.

To rub the message in a little deeper, I joined there 5 years after you left and mate it was great. Excellent remuneration, working conditions and fantastic management. I guess they got rid of all the problem children with your bag.

Having said all that, I would be truly honored for you and your silly old mates to put me on that Scab List now please. You know who I am, and hell I sure deserve it after pissing on your campfire.

To the barbeque fools, why do you think the old fart will not ever retire? He has tried, yes? There is no welcome mat for him and his mates at home….

Black Stain 27th Jul 2008 11:17

To the moderator: The above rant is relevant in the light of endless struggle between Goat and pilot. History is the best teacher.

Lulu qatar 27th Jul 2008 13:29

Scab
 
Scabs are deangorous where ever they fly becouse they will do it again when we all stop they will fly for boss to get somthing back.
I agree with K.H 100% . Put them on list dont give them job or jumps seat and treat them like scabs as they do it to others.
QR scab was saved by CP while others where not .( remember Alexandria,Franfkurt,JNB....) all suspended only scab saved.

Two Dogs.... 28th Jul 2008 04:13

89'er scabs are a myth Lulu, just like the the Jewish suicide bombers that took down the world trade center. Your fellow pilots have not been entirely truthfull to you. Regards, ;)

FlyingCroc 28th Jul 2008 05:54

two dogs, too many drinks?
 
89 industrial action a myth, what are you talking about mate. You guys still do not understand what industrial action mean and just us less moaning and whinging on pprune since nobody gives a rats ass what you think since you have no union to stand up for your interest.
And what is this crap about jewish suicide bombers, never heard about that one.

loc22550 28th Jul 2008 14:30

CEO pita,
Are you really convinced that we gone have a lot of US pilots here in Qatar Airways...??I think Q.R is still waiting for them...!:bored:
Most of them are going to Dubai or Abu dhabi...

P.Clostermann 28th Jul 2008 19:53

Lulu,


what the hell are you talking about mate? The other incidents you are referring to where 100% obvious and clear instructor failure. The mashad one is debatable, I give you that one!

But to bring up the alexandria thing! Man, that training captain was an absolute moron and what he did went not once but 4 times against several books we have to follow at QR..

All the way from his recovery crash technique on a 2200m RWY to his 'NOT'writing the incident in the techlog!

So before you open your mouth, think!

Black stain....well said!

Me as leader...NO THANKS! been there, done that....and you are absolutely right! A bottle of Lafitte and a juicy blond would instantly take my focus away...

Black Stain 28th Jul 2008 23:21

And Later at the Nursing Home....
 
With cane shaking and dentures chattering the old man of the air cursed:

"That asshole over there with the blue shirt took my fugging seat at the bingo table when I went for afternoon nap!! Everyone knows thats my fugging chair!! No-one can speak to him from now on."

LIBYA_LION 29th Jul 2008 08:38

You still work at QR Black Stain?

Black Stain 29th Jul 2008 15:11

I would ditch in the gulf rather than ever set foot in that dusty farmyard again Libya Lion.

NoJoke 30th Jul 2008 01:34

L.Lion
 
I would take that as a NO. :ok:

No_BS 30th Jul 2008 19:23

Black Stain- well said, you have left K.H. speachless...

The silence is deafening!

K.H. has not answered you back, oh wait he has….

K.H. = Lulu qatar!!!!:eek:

K.H nice to have someone striaght fwd on this forum.You might be old but you have bo...s !
Its a sad person who gives himself kudos:=
reminds me of a song... “He was looking pretty dumb with his finger and and his thumb in the shape of a L on his forehead”:D

Safari Goat 31st Jul 2008 08:27

We actually should get back on the subject of salary or start a new thread. Still off the subject of salary a bit. Most of us hide behind names here, as we rightfully should. If our identity was found out for saying anything about the chief pilots, management and or the company it would hurt us with promotions and life at this job in the middle east.....TRUE!
K.H has Ba...ls and stood up to one or two of you who hide behind these names and point fingers. For this you jump all over him? WHY?
I actually remember when K.H stood up to POPAY (popay was an old sign on name here for someone) and did you know that they became friends after their conflict?
It really confirms the small minded, immature people that we work with here in our small part of the sandpit. We are expanding here with more and more complainers coming in everyday. I guess people from the old school with morals and good experience, are now the minority in Qatar Airways.

Smirnoff N21 31st Jul 2008 13:22

S.G. just to clarify a bit your statement. There was never a conflict but rather a dispute. It's still an actual issue btw. Who is QR good for or what's your take on QR? It was a genuine reference to early retirees let it be from CX LH BA whatever. That fact that K.H. is the only one from C.X. doesn't costitute a malicious intent hidden in a genuine reference. How it perceived from the other party is unpredictable and can lead to tensions provided the no wind up was intended in first place. Hot headed discussions are useless and not conclusive. Generally we don't have to love or to hate each other as long as the job is done professionally. What matters is not who's right but what's right.
Doesn't work in QR though. Stand up against popay well, it's like Mike Tyson against a tiny skinny student. Give it break, will ya. No compare at all. Still QR is generally understood to be a good escape for early retiree or ab initio. nothing for experienced pilots being ready for a big frog leap in the career.
Best regards to Mr. Aussie K.H. he can afford to be straight forward guy without being dragged to much into politics in QR. Good candidate for a leading position but then half of QR pilots have to go not meeting the standards, I'm afraid.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

Safari Goat 31st Jul 2008 17:03

Don't get me wrong Smirnoff, I actually like the popay guy. I thought he was also a guy who stood up to people. I was not saying that he was immature or small minded. actually the opposite for him. I enjoyed talking to him before he left. I actually liked to fly with both K.H and Popay. Two good guys.

CEO PITA 31st Jul 2008 18:46

QR
 
We dont need clostermans we need experianced people with boo.... And K.H is one of them .

Lulu qatar 31st Jul 2008 19:23

Popay
 
popay boy is now doing his left seat in A.A . Congrets mate !

bluesky dreamer 31st Jul 2008 20:06

Hello
This is my first time on pprune.
I recieved an invitation to the Qatar screening.
I've done a lot of research but cant find much information.
Please tell me about the interview.
Whatquestions do they ask?
How does the pay break down?
How much do you fly ?
And what aircraft are most pilots assigned to?

Smirnoff N21 31st Jul 2008 20:14

No worries S.G. Upgrades, well probably, THE most important occurrence in pilot's life. Don't know how much of that is true but I hear frightening rumors of a very unusually high failure rate at different stages. It's OK if the failure rate fluctuates somewhere around 10% but from what I understand it's at least 50%. That's scary indeed. This guys on the right aren't sand sacks, aren't they.
Anyhow not my worry anymore. Good luck guys and hopefully you'll get through without getting astronauts.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

vivace 1st Aug 2008 04:23

Popay if memory serves me right(as he had a picture of himself on his profile) is not in A.A but left QR months ago and is now back in Germany. Good guy, and not sure where hes heading local German airline I heard last.

CEO PITA 1st Aug 2008 15:05

Popay
 
Yea Popay is in Germany in city " Kuala Lumpur"

Capt Krunch 7th Aug 2008 15:41

Have any of you guys bothered to use the SEARCH function on this site.... sure would save us old timers allot of time in repeating and repeating the same Sh!t over and over and over again

and just one advise.. if you have ajob.. don't come here, if you have a life, dont come here, if your out of work, no money, deep in debt, no way out, ok then you have no choice, come here.

as far as the interview is concerned.. did mine decades ago so i can't help there.. but from what i see with some the F/O's i fly with, if you got 2 arms, 2 legs, can blink and breath, you got the job, standards here are far far below the bottom of that old barrel.

:mad:
Posioned by Compromise
Krunch

Don't shout its rude, EGGW


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