salamalikum2 no one farts in QR without his approval but as everything else it's interpreted as legitimate course of action by QR. The pilot involved should have simply declared safety related reason and QR would've backed off but since F/O they are a bit more aggressive. General rule is very valid for QR try to f@@k around as much as only possible. Hopefully they'll have enough brain to register existing offer of employment letters with the labour department to manifest them as legitimate other wise guys 1 month notice is your good right with full payout.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

One more famous quote in QR....

" NOT ALLOWED...!!!!!! "

:=:=:=

Hi guys
Is there any slowdown in interviewing or hiring. Or is it still going full on.
Thanks

Back to the original topic(QR salary)..,eventhough we recieve what they call a salary "increase", 'official" rumor from office says there will be nothing to celebrate...:just 1000 or 2000 QR more only on the basic. or something like that..if.. we ever get something...again just a rumor.
So basicaly..3..4%...on the total package.(infaltion here 15+%,probably even worse next year...!).
(let's not even talk of the devaluation of the qatari riyal....:uhoh:)

Are they expecting to stop the exodus and attract a lot of people with such a figure...........????:=

For those of you with balls!
 

In case they deduct anything from your salary, without your approval or acknowledgement, this is where you should read:

Article (64)

A worker shall, before his recourse to the competent tribunal, appeal to his employer against the penalty inflicted on him within seven days of being aware of such penalty. The appeal shall be decided upon within seven days of its submission. The appeal is considered rejected if this period lapses.

In the event of rejection of an appeal or if it is not decided upon within the above period, the worker may appeal to the Department against the penalty inflicted on him with seven days of the date of rejection.

The Department shall decide on the worker's appeal within seven days of the date of the registration of the appeal. The Department's decision shall be final.

As an exception the worker may appeal against the penalty of dismissal from work to the competent court.


If the court decides that the dismissal is arbitrary or in violation of the' provisions of this law, it shall either annual the dismissal, orders the return the worker to his work and payment of his wages for the period he was not allowed to work in implementation of such penalty or payment of a suitable compensation. Such compensation shall include the wages and other benefits denied to him as a result of such dismissal.

The whole thing can be found on:

Embassy of Qatar - The Labour Law

I know, some of you will start now saying that QR is untouchable blablabla....

Believe me, they are not that untouchable. On top of that, the allegations about the maffia practices are true, so in case they would deduct something which you think is not correct, just threaten with this and they will turn 180 degrees!

Believe me, I have tried it and it works!

Its always the same song: People who dont know their rights will get abused, people who know their rights might stand a chance!

Just learn how to fence for yourself!

there is a fresh rumour that there will be an increase and it will be announced this month. anybody any input on that?

cleared to Land:
Just keep your bottle of champagne in the fridge...Don't open it yet...:bored:

Very easy;

1- US pulls out of Iraq
2-Oil barrel goes back to 80 us
3-US dollar makes and Incredible comeback against Euro
4-Landlords in Qatar start acting according to the law
5-And Girls skate on G-strings on the corniche,

Then that is the only way there will be a Salary rise.....:cool:


Got it, Clr 2 lnd?

Guys I understand your pessimism. Trust me. But the last think I heard is the CEO told someone he already signed for -9% on the basic. Ooops +9%. Sorry. :ok:

9 %
 

9 % for F/O basic 18k is 1620 rials .
9 % for Capt basic 26k is 2340 rials

Sorry its not increament its insolt for pilots .

Inflation 15 % . Eletricity +30 % since last year .
Rent in 3 y went double the price .
Anything below 40 % on basic its a joke . Last salary increament was 2 y back since then inflation went 30% up means 40% inceament is onlt 10 %.
9 % increament is actually -31 % or reall one we should get .

9 %
 

9 % WOOOOO cool i can start going to Starbucks again instead shewarma shop which i started since 1y becouse Starbucks start to become expencive for QR F/O .But naw with 9 % i will go back.

Cleared to land:

Believe it when you will see it.
well 9% on the basic only......we might not even see and feel the difference!:ugh::ugh:
Just another insult in the face of the crew....

How did increasing salary ever decrease inflation?

nothanorehilton
 

nAw with 9 % i suggest you to come back to youre favorite airline !

:{any idea if the education allowance is going up?...if no improvement on education allowance.........I am outta here!!!!!!

Yes its only in Doha there is record inflation and high food prices. ONLY IN DOHA!

Didnt see anyone claiming its only in Doha where there is inflation, but fact is it is one of (if not the highest) the highest in the ME with its "estimated" 15%:{ and for sure also higher than were you are, notanotherhilton.

For sure its higher and it will stay high, just like my 41% tax and insurance rate, my 30% increase in energy bills, my 35% increase in food bills, my increased morgage repayments, - all in the last 12 months.

You cant have it all unfortunatley.

That´s right, we can´t have it all. But for finding it worth to relocate to-/stay in- the ME it has to be a lot better than home and not just slightly better.Otherwise people will do like you obviously did, move back, but it seems like you´re missing Doha, if I read in between the lines. In Europe you know that the worth of your salary and your cost of living will be fairly predictable and you have pension and social security etc, but here we´re caught by surprise every week.
Its fast approaching that its only slightly better or equal here compared to home and that will cause people to make diversion-plans. And for people considering to come, its not so easy to know all the hidden costs and problems within the package, cause it looks really good on paper. Its not bad but its getting worse, for sure.

If I dont supplement my pension with 8% of my current salary (the 59% thats left), my pension will just about keep a roof over my head when I retire. The days of big final salary pensions are as dead as the dodo in most European Airlines. I pay taxes for social security that would just about keep me above the poverty line if I ever needed it. My household costs have increased massively in the last 12 months, something I was never able to predict a year ago.

I dont miss Doha, I did my time and was happy to move back to raise my family close to our extended families. Thats where my priority lies now. A personal choice. You cant go the Gulf and expect all the familiarity of home plus a kings ransom as well any more. The world is not like that any more, Ex Pat flying is not like that anymore. Perhaps a more reasonable and realistic appraisal of the pros and cons BEFORE moving would prevent the personal anger and completely unjustified BS I read on here. Life is WAY to short to be piss*d off all the time. If your not happy do something about it.

Pssss.... They are doing something about it Notanotherhilton :ugh: You may not understand it, in fact many posters here participate unwittingly; but be sure that loading the recruitment dice is a powerful tool indeed.

Salary increase
 

+9% on the Basic salary not bad, better then nothing at least it will compensate for food and grocery inflation let us wait and see. but what realy matters is why Qr is not pushed to copy emirates and introduce the company provident fund and annual profits share + Currency exchange protection plan:confused: these are the concerns of most pilots at Qr.
I think this issues should be adressed immediatly if they want to keep this airline flying otherwise people are already looking to greener pasturage over the fence." knocking to our neighboors doors"
Fly high fast and always be safe:ok:

annual profits share !!!!!!!!! guys get real

Qr stock market
 

Stock market or not we dont care we just want bonus like Emirates,Singapore Airlines,Air Asia ,Air Arabia .......
If they can why Qatar can not ? or Qatar is too poor ?

Maybe because Emirates and Singapore Airlines are profitable so they share there profits thats why it's call profit share ,,clear enought????, Qatar Airways are on the red what do you want them to share with you????? Ask for anything but please dont ask for profit share..

Profit share
 

QA is in red ? mmm am not sure becouse we announced a order of 200 new airplanes . You think airline in red can buy all this birds ?
SIN,AK,A.A also ordered many airplanes but still give bonus .
Since am flying in QR we are 99 % on MTOW 232 T . Airlines in red dont have pax to reach MTOW .
Its not about making profit or not its about weather airline want to keep there staff or want them to leave .
Q.A is doing excelent job in training pilots for new type ratings and making them leave after some time .

This is a rumour forum, right? Then the rumour is around 33K for FO's and 44K for captains as guaranteed minumum monthly up to 70 hours. Overtime reinstated; education increased by 300%.
Announcement as soon as the catamite king (I love that Black S. Wish I'd thought of it myself.) can find a window of opportunity to call HIS pilots together and tell them what a bunch of fools they are so they can all applaud.
Pity I have a root canal scheduled that night so I won't be there.

Salary
 

And how reliable is (are) your rumour source(s)??
Or are you like me and you have an imaginary friend who tells you feel good stories??.....

?? quote
.."around 33k for F/O and 44k for captain as guaranteed minimum monthly up to 70 hours...."
What does that mean....???????:ugh:

By the way, if i fly 70 h/month as a cpt right now i make already more than44000QR!
(26500+1500+300+12000+70X120=48700!!)


Who's next....??:ouch:

44k
 

you're taking into account your housing allowance... with out it is 36700...
now 44 sounds better...

but i doubt we'll get it anyway...

Anybody else with a better offer, please raise your hand .....:ugh:

Knotaloud:"education increase by 300%"(it means multiply by 4)!!!
Put the bottle down and come back when you will be fit and well.:ouch:

I known the sun is hitting hard during the summertime,but still it's not a reason....

Thanks for helping me with my multiplication tables loc. Don't you have to change you handle now you can't use the company mail box?

Guys, it's a rumour network and I've passed you a rumour. Do what you want with it but I'm not standing out in the sun for anyone.

Here's more. LoL insurance 48 times your basic salary. Around 2K increase in housing allowance.

Rumour
 

Its a rumour forum but dot give us info wich can make us sick like decrease in salary you just mantion .
44K avrige Capt on A330 is taking home total 55k or more F/O 48k

O i see Togaluck/Rippa..: 44k/33k :the new "basic" including 70 hours/month...
Not bad indeed.....So not realistic for Q.R.i'm afraid:{
Thanks.

Qatar Airways Assessment (non rated)
 

Hello, please can somebody provide me with a detailed breakdown of the interview process for a non type rated first officer position. I'd appreciate if we can stick to the subject and not wonder off course, as many of the previous threads relating to this airline have done. I have used the great tool on this website, otherwise known as the search function; however this has proved to be of painstakingly limited information.

Therefore I'd just like to know what is involved in the 3 day assessment and possibly any information relating to pay and accommodation.

Thank you for your replies and safe landings. :O

You sit in front some Qatar Airways pilots and a guy from HR. They ask you questions about you and then some tech questions, I suggest you read the "how to ace a pilot interview." you also do a written exam, same kind of stuff. Then if they like you and you did not mess up that day you will go into the sim and fly a raw data visual approach, a missed approach , loose an engine and come back in to do a G/A with engine out. You will get a brief on what you do. Then you will go home and wait for the call.The pay is pay. You can survive. Living is hot and life is good.

I did the assesment in May on A320 Sim
Sim is visual circuit of Doha.
V1 cut with A/P and F/D
S/E engine ils to a go around
another s/e ils and done.
written test 18 questions
sicological test. 16 questions
Interview. Personal and some technical questions
All depends who interviews you.
Make sure all documents are complete and in english
New suit, be nice good luck
Trip on J class there is wonderful, Hotel is so so
Not much to do but lots of western and asian restaurants.
Oh you must also do the Icao english test if its not on your LIC.
Later

Bush or Safari,

Please,
Do you remenber a some question of the Psico and Tech, test's?

Safari and Bustrash, thank you for your replies. Do you remember any specific questions they asked?

Very quiet suddendly...
Heard that some people in office have pretend a annoucement should be done in july regarding salary "increase.."
Well Countdown has start..7 days to go.....