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khnzore 2nd Oct 2008 21:04

All of the above.

AFD 4th Oct 2008 00:06

congratulation
can i ask you some question?
did you file the qatar website application form or did you send the email to HQ?

i know that there should be a pre-employement assesment even in italy this month
do you know anything about it?
what is your date for the meeting in london?
when did you apply to qatar,this is just to know how long did you wait to receive the invite
thank you

sergino909 4th Oct 2008 01:19

qatar airways general info
 
  1. salary very low 4930 usd per month for fo on B777
  2. cost of life and house rent in doha very expensive !!!!!aprox 3000 usd per month for a regular apartments.
  3. loss of licence only 100,000 usd after line check, no kiddin!!!
  4. hour flight pay is flat at 24 usd per hour from 1 to infinite
  5. no mimimun flight time guarantee they say the avg are 70 h
  6. no pension scheme:*:=
  7. very poor medical and insurance coverage
  8. no time away from base:*
  9. meal allowances adjusted to the local currency where you are laying over
  10. accomodations mostly are old not well furnished
  11. no tour around the city of doha is arranged by qatar airways, you are on your own, go for it!!!:=:=:=
  12. This airline with some changes con be the best but so far is the worst go to emirates or etihad lots of people are resigning every month to better places:D

NoJoke 4th Oct 2008 01:53

Serg
 
I appreciate your sentiments but those were not the questions. I would however add, you are totally right.

loc22550 4th Oct 2008 04:43

Sergi let me "correct" nr 9:
9. i think meal allowance has NEVER been really "adjusted" to the local currency expecially for europe layover after the huge devaluation of the riyal v/s euro the last ..4..5 years(-40%..).(allowances paid in riyal).

loc22550 4th Oct 2008 10:29

Yes. Basic salary F/O new joiners: 18000 QR (1U$=3.65 QR).

Rocco Stiffreddy 4th Oct 2008 11:04

Is that salary estimate for real? I could drive a bus back home for that...:(

loc22550 4th Oct 2008 13:04

EPR:
Indeed you are paid for the scheduled block time.

bump 5th Oct 2008 00:28

Great question. I got told I was shortlisted about 3 months ago and have not heard a word.:ugh:

sunking 5th Oct 2008 04:10

Same here, Shortlisted for 777 DEC about 3 months ago and not a word since.

EGGW 5th Oct 2008 06:07

Enough threads on related subjects, with regards to Qatar Airways recruitment.

Use the current ones running, or they get binned..... :ugh:

EGGW

felo747 5th Oct 2008 23:03

interview
 
Hi Ali hope is weel for u in Qatar now, I get an interview this month, can u tell me about the INTERVIEW questions and also about simulator and finally what about english test?

Apprecciate ur help
thanks

P.Clostermann 6th Oct 2008 08:46

Please forgive me my sarcasm, but I am glad you asked about the English test!

Maybe you should start working on that one first....:cool:

Mr Ho 6th Oct 2008 11:26

QTR515 ignor this black snake, is evil man. Keep doing all good thing graet cheif say and we be happy. reward verry good, vaseline cheep and pain get easy evry day. Soon not ever tink about it :8

Black Stain 7th Oct 2008 02:56

Criticism from an illiterate fool Mr Ho is a commendation I will treasure.

Black Stain 7th Oct 2008 03:22

You are becoming a noisy seagull 515.

Loyalty? Loyalty to profession? Loyalty to peers? Loyalty to thy master? Loyalty can twist with time without you even realizing. Did Goering regret his loyalty at Nuremberg?

I didn't jump ship, but I thought about it. I gave three months notice and paid the bond even though I had not signed when trained. Why did I pay? The GMFO asked with a "please"; good manners earns respect. And as he said, "they will just take it from you anyway".

In almost every respect Goat Management are nasty, and the response on this forum merely reflects that. The age of hidden exploitation is over. I do not know of a single compatriot considering The Goat. If one does turn up then he has missed out on EK and EY, so be kind to the poor fellow.

And have you ever considered 515 that your peers see exactly opposite what you see in the mirror? Ponder that on several levels.

etops777 7th Oct 2008 05:34

A friend missed out on EK 2 years ago for an FO position but he is now an 320 DEC with QR.

This is directly from him that he would take an FO slot with EK than a Capt position with QR anyday.

Ronaldo 330 7th Oct 2008 06:11

Qatari515
 
Qatari 515 what are you talking about ? Jump ship and not being loyal and manipulationg the system ??? maybe you have desert flu !
Who is manipulation system ?? Rostering with rules like climatazed and unclimatazed in India , new bond system its ok for new but bad for seniors , B.W and I.M can jump DEC to A330 but want to stop transferes as it cost money , CEO who press his own capt top brake the rules of part A by forcing crew to fly with knife in cabin , terminations without valid reasons , you have to report fit by 20 h for next day as if you are Dr , senior Capt cant get villa becaouse CEO told him to add money but new Capt gets it , people get failed on intervew for not knowing why the sky is blue , that ACN has more restriction then Alcatraz .
Yea its not fair to jump ship tell me about it !!!!
O dont forget if you be fair and resign youre salary is frozen for 3 months and you cant leave desert on off days . Qatari 515 is that normal in place where you come from ?becaouse if it is then i understand why you like Q.A . ha ha :D

Two Dogs.... 7th Oct 2008 10:23

Qatari515 thats a bit irresponsible to tell people to expect to save $5400pm :( The only way a married couple could do that is if they have two incomes, no kids, and live in accommodation that costs only half what the company gives them. How many villas are out there now for under 6000pm?:( Why are you selling so hard such miss-leading stories? :\

Rocco Stiffreddy 7th Oct 2008 11:03

I have to ask; who or what is the "king of katamites"? you guys refer to. (I'm guessing QA CEO). Does anyone know what that's about?:confused:. It seems he's pretty unpopular on these forums, why is that?

felo747 7th Oct 2008 19:35

Qatar Interview
 
is there somebody who has attended the interview recently and can give me some information?

thanks

felo747 7th Oct 2008 19:48

interview
 
what do you mean?

loc22550 8th Oct 2008 02:28

Talking about Jump ship Renaldo.. recently 2 cabin crew jump ship together out of Vienna....flight came back with minimum crew!
Sure in the office they are still wondering why...?:\
What to do, what to do....

shneidertrophy 8th Oct 2008 16:17

QR515 might be a bit naive but I have to say that his principles are noble and respectable. If or if not they should be applied to Qatar Airways is another question....

QR515, ask yourself the question: How good is loyalty when it only comes from one party involved?

QR is probably the only company in the world where you can do a jump-ship, get away with it while being hired by another reputable company. QR's reputation is well known all over the world of aviation...

With regards to the savings: 515 has been here lets asume since 2003 (date he became member of pprune). That means he is coming close to 6 years seniority in QR and he was able to get a lease contract before the huge hike in rental prices. He can very well be living in a 6000QR/month villa!

He claims to be a captain on A330, so his salary easily reaches 57000QR/month (remember, his basic is around 5000QR more than a DEC).
Substract from this 7000 housing, 3000 car, 1000 mobile phone, 6000 monthly living, 2000/month for his club memberships, expenses for wife and kids etc and he might be saving around 25000QR/month!

So it is possible for him, but not possible for a new joining pilot!

QR 515, compare apples with apples please... your situation is different to that from a new joiner , purely based on seniority!

I think your intentions are good and well meant, but please stick to your own adagio: Only tell the truth!

FaFa 8th Oct 2008 19:15

Dear My friends

Working in Qatar Airways as a pilot is like dream for me and i LOVE this airways alot but i have a question :

- I'm Iranian and due to bad advertising against Iran and Iranian,as i know working in foreign countries and especially in Persian Gulf countries is very difficult and they reject the Iranian CV.

Is this true or not ?

I try to working there one day but please guide me how can i do this ???

Thanks

Smirnoff N21 8th Oct 2008 19:27

QR 515 is a trustworthy guy and 20K is realistic number provided the conditions described by schneiderthrophy are met. The only problem is it remains 20K throughout years despite rising seniority. Savings are the same as they were 5 years ago despite almost double salary, I'm afraid.
Fafa as far as I'm concerned QR judges your performance and I've flown with some Iranians in QR. I only have good memories about those guys. True professionals and great aviators. My best regards to them.
Don't take it personally take it on the rocks!!!:ok:

loc22550 8th Oct 2008 20:59

Fafa,Salam.. i don't see any reason for qatar to reject your iranian passport.
Indeed i wish we could have some more iranians here..:ok:
Good luck.

NoJoke 8th Oct 2008 21:43

Gone
 
Dear Loc,

It is a sign of the times but your PO box is on the way out. Without any replacement by the way.:\

Mister Geezer 9th Oct 2008 00:30

Does anyone know what the bond is at Qatar??? I am considering using them as a way of building up some Airbus time and then leaving when the industry is back on its feet here in Europe.

Qatari515 9th Oct 2008 15:38

BS,

Thanks for looking out for my reputation but I dont think I need your help, thanks!

I did not say you jumped ship, S-P jumped ship!


Shneidertrophy, I do admit, I have been here much longer than most people so my situation indeed is slighthly different. Point taken...

I just can not stand the single-sightedness of most people here when it comes down to thrashing QR. I said it before and I will say it again: QR is not perfect and lots of work remains to be done, but its not the HELL-HOLE so many posters here are trying to make it look like!

I asked myself that Question of yours many times mate, and every time again I come to the same conclusion. I will stick to my principles and I will NOT lower myself to the below-the belt techniques QR is using. So I will stay true to what I believe in and Jumping ship is just not part of my beliefs!

Ronaldo 330, most of the things you are saying is true, especially regarding the company! Bravo!
Dont agree with your personal remarks though, but thats my prerogative isnt it?

Regarding resignation":
Your salary, when you resign, is only frozen in case you have outstanding debts with the bank. Your credit cards will be stopped 45 days before your last day of work. You can leave the country as long as you have a multiple exit permit. Just book your ID 90 tickets before you submit your letter!

Where I come from has nothing to do with all this but all these practices where as strange and unacceptable to me as they are to you! But once you know your way around these dark-aged practices it is NOT difficult to fool the system!

:ok:

JungleJett 9th Oct 2008 16:28

So you DO fool the system......a rather immoral attitude...tss tsss tssss I am very disappointed in you 515....
:)
Oh and before you write a looooong essai on morality or whatever....it's a joke!

Qatari515 9th Oct 2008 17:38

Maybe your obviously limited inteligence does not allow you to see the difference between an act like jumping ship (hereby cheating a company that IS still providing a living for you and your family/hereby breaching your contract and braking the law,

and something like fooling the system by just being smarter without damaging yourself or anybody else and keeping your obligations at the same time!...

Sad for you!:ugh:

everybody is responsible for his own actions in life...Do whatever you want, I am in no position to tell anybody else what/what not to do!

But "what goes around comes around" is still very much valid in our little professional environment!

Mr Ho 9th Oct 2008 23:28

Is tru what go round come round. You and Ho proof catamite king reward all good pilot :8

Why not yu other not do as told?

Rocco Stiffreddy 10th Oct 2008 03:06

Gottcha, so who is the Catamite? Hopefully not jube FOs...

loc22550 10th Oct 2008 07:17

??Qatari 515,

Please keep your lesson of loyalty for yourself, and instead of blaming the people who jumpship (telling it's not legal, or they are "braking" the law...:hmm:), lets ask a clever question: WHY do people "jumpship".....???
Sure most of them they wouldn't never have done such a think in a "normal" circumstance.

LOC.

Mr Ho 10th Oct 2008 11:56

Goat Airway is Graet King Katamite own airine. He graet man, known all thing, known how fly too, he like Don Trump of dessert. All luv Katamite King for fair judge and good reward for do good thing :8

Qatari515 10th Oct 2008 13:47

Always remeber why the grass is greener on the other side...
 
LOC,

I have probably more reasons to be upset with QR than anyone else on this forum! A low seniority number means more years of abuse as well you know. We all have our reasons, we all have been lied to...

So please, dont tell me what or what not to write here!

Its the old story of the two buckets. One is filling up with cash, the other one is filling up with ****. As soon as one bucket spills over, one has to leave!

I thought about leaving many times in the past...But NEVER EVER I considered jumping ship mate!

But hey, I give up with this tread! I am not interested in a personal pissing contest so thats it for me!

I wish you guys all the best and I hope you find that greener grass on the other side!:D



Answer: because the **** underneath its feeding on!

Lulu qatar 10th Oct 2008 18:11

Qatari515
 
Qatari515 if you get hit in face on street for no reason do you fight back or you step back and complain to police ? ?
its a same sh... t with QA if they give you sh...t you give them sh...t by jumps ship and best way is do it when outstation so no F/o to operate back .

sayap-patah 12th Oct 2008 13:41

dear Qatari515,
happy eid al fitri, as i mention to you before, i was 5 years with QR, i was joining QR at 2002 ( beginning '03), my staff number start with 4, if you already there at those time, i'm sure you know that there is no malaysian at that time in QR, i'm sure you do remember we are able to send text msg (SMS) via our mobile phone at july '03, and there's only 4 internet cafe in Doha at that time. Please don't judge people's skill and ability from whre they are coming from ( either company or nationality ), i have no connection with Malaysian mafia that you mention, its just Abu dhabi is close to home for me (just 6 hours flight to home instead 11 hour from KL )even its far for my indonesian wife, buts she's ok. In AA there are a lot of ex Qr pilots now ( 13 pilots ), three of them now even a TRI, and flying both A 330 and 320. Before i left, 9 Qr pilots, 2EY, and 1 Auh amiri pilot are in progress to join AA. Have a nice wonderful day in Qatar..emmm i mean Doha..ehhmmm...:ugh:

Rocco Stiffreddy 13th Oct 2008 07:33

More Qatar Airways questions...
 
I've been reading through a lot of the posted threads and I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on the following;
1. Why is CEO Akbar Baker so unpopular on this forum? (Is he evil)?
2. Why is Doha Radar so F$*ked up?
3. Are any of your wives happy living in Qatar? (I know many aren't).
4. Is there a reasonable future for a Jube FO at QA? Seems like QA is where pilots go to die, like an elephant graveyard...

Any input would be great as for me QA is about to go on the backburner...
:ugh:


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