I dont think its moving any quicker! Even with the sim slots in Bahrain....

Current story doing the rounds is that 25 pilots quit in Jan., of which 22 simply jumped ship.

If true it would be no suprise considering the working practices at QR.

PL

unfortunately is all true,this is the only place in the entire world where the attrition rate of the crew is 10% a year....in a crisis time,imagine after,and what the management does?

NOTHING!

This is the only place where nobody thinks about the fact that one day sooner or later it will cost the airline a crash.The airline reputation is compromised and will only attract desperate people doing 500 quick hrs on the 320 and then off we go...possibly jumping ship.

Is this a joke? No this is Qatar Airways.

But the good thing is that all the above is not important,the important things are: THE HAT and if you bang or not the cabin crew...

but you can always became gay...that is not a problem here...

Welcome to QTR!!!:ok::ok::ok::ok:

:eek: What????? Are you not allowed to bang to cabin crew? Thats for me already a reason not to join qatar airways. :=

Contract & Bond
 

Thanks for that Windshear...I suppose they still need to update their website if this is a new policy.

Are Qatar still using the previous method mentioned in this thread (with new joiners) of putting Boeing experienced guys on the 777's and Airbus guys on the A320's?

As a follow-on to BGG, if one were to apply with decent 737NG time (double minimums), would a seat on the 777 be most likely given the Boeing experience?

What percentage of newbie A320 pilots only had Boeing experience?

Supposedly everybody are joining on the 320 regardless of previous experience.
But here you never know!!!!

Does anybody know wht the Tunisain Capt got fired from the 320 fleet.

Travel Benefits
 

I've been researching staff travel with qatar and have figured that FO's are entitled to unlimited ID90's and one confirmed ticket a year (all upgradable to business class)....I cannot however find any info anywhere regarding family travel benefits.
Does anybody know who is entitled and how...eg, emirates give business for FO's and spouse but only economy for any child under 16 so you have no choice but to sit in economy with your child, and even if you have a confirmed ticket, you may still be offloaded.

I hear qatar are very generous in this regard but don't quite know the details....any info would be appreciated!

The latest info that I know, F/O, spouse and child are entitle for unlimited ID 90 and 50 (business and economy class) 1 confirmed annual leave tickets for family up to 3 kids, child under 12 are not entitle for business class

I don't know about the unlimited ID90-50, anybody out there experiencing can confirm, thanks!

This is confirmed - absolutely unlinited.
Cheers!

Thanks Homo Ludens, you must be a 'gladiator' in your previous life! Kind of wondering if there are a lot of 'gladiator' over there flying out and back?

Qatar Widebody DEC's
 

Is Qatar Airways currently hiring DEC's for B777? Been reading that everyone is going to A320. Any info would be helpful.

Travelin..
4 new destinations coming soon on 320..:ALP,STR,SYZ,VCE..
while the rostering department is struggling on a daily basis to allocate all the 320 flights, the Coming year is gone be interesting...
So don't be surprised if you are put on the Q.R. slave fleet: A-320..:}

Hey ... what's going on in ME ... looking for gladiators on a 320, 'Ave Caesar, Morituri Te Salutant' ? :ok:

They are probably looking for 'mercenaries'!
Qatar is politically different from Bahrain but correct me if I'm wrong ... the two ruling families have some sort of connection! How is the picture looks like in QR?

40 sectors, 9000 riyal basic 1000 riyal transport allowance!

To all who are thinking about joining QR
 

Hi all, first time writting here, but I just think new joiners should think about a few things before they join.
Since I joined in beginning 08, I would say an estimate of how many have jumpshiped and resigned is around +200 people. Not to mention the huge amount of CC that leave every month.

I you want an idea about QR, read the first 5 pages of this thread, you will see that nothing has changed.

Salary - Same, but actually less. Block hrs are reduced, more delays less pay. Less days off - more standbys.
Benefits - Same.
Conditions - Worse for senior pilots.
Roster - Bidding system, but rosters are just as unfair, maybe more.
Night flying - Only increasing since we are increasing the flights to destinations that used to be only day flights.
Resignation/jumpship rate - Increasing due other parts of the world hiring again and as more people come, more people leave.
Hotel on layover - New hotels are lower quality, usually expensive slow internet and where the hotels have changed at older destinations, it's for cheaper deals and lower quality hotel.
Hotel allowance - Food in hotels seam to be cheaper every time they open a destination on A320. 72 QAR for Bangalore, the lunch buffet is 40 QAR after discount. So Breakfast, lunch and dinner for 72 QAR, maybe if you only eat the napkins.

Overall satifaction of working in QR, good untill you experience some unfairness, then you will be ready to go anyday.

Good luck to all.

Most of the recruitment to QR is now on the A320 - You can still be selected for the B777 but will require at least B757 I believe before being considered for that Fleet. A300 / A330 recruitment is generally slow ,to fill gaps.

All new joiners to the B747 in the next couple of courses are B747 or B777 TR.

May the farce be with you

Daft Wader

:ok:

QR
 

Daft Wader thanks for the good news, my interview is very soon and I am 747 typed so as you said I can expect a 777 slot.... :ok:

You can not expect anything!

747's?
 

Daft Wader,

Do Qatar have 747's? I didn't think they did and after reading your comment went onto their website to see their fleet list...there was no mention of 747's.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION..talking about unfairness..:

Seems we a have now a new ""company policy"" regarding transfer and upgrade (un-official but well in application..)
If you a any grade less than 4 in any of the manoeuvres&procedures during your last LPC/OPC your transfer or upgrade will be delayed eventhough you have 4+ at the overall pilot grading!
Some pilots have already experienced it!

FFR:
One first officer has already been stopped during his transfer for the reason i mention above.
Or do we have to assume that people are just inventing stories for the "fun"..?

Speaking of low morale neighbour..... 12 quid for 24 hrs in Bangalore! Dear god. 50p for every hour! Time to break out the pot noodle!

Sorry for typo - I meant B777 not B747 !

You will be placed on whatever fleet they need you on , having Boeing experience , logic would suggest the B777 , but all Logic has to be declaered upon arrival

Daft Wader

:ok:

Protest heading here?
 

Facebook page calls for Qatar emir's ouster - Yahoo! News

SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT?

I completely agree with you, he is a fantastic leader by all accounts. I just wanted to see whether people believe this has been started within Qatar or is other nationalities stirring up rubbish?!

On another note, has anyone heard any rumours regarding 320 guys being CCQ'd and mixed fleet flying?

Jimbo124..you must be very junior in the airline.
Like many others(salary increase,improvement of roster..) i have heard this rumours for years now....

qatar recruitment
 

i havent got any confirmation to attend their interview has any 1 got? am dying of waiting

The moral is so low here that people would invent everything to survive the big mistake of joyning this socalled "major" airline........:ugh:
The evaluation for command is the same as before, or , I would say even better. The minimum is an average 3.59 during your last 2 LPC/OPC and LC, most probably the guys who where stopped had other problems.....
More and more people are planning to go in the next few months, most of them among those who joined less than 2 years ago from europe....:rolleyes:

Everybody was expecting this new management to improve pilots terms & contract & welfare, the only thing they did is.......APPLY MORE RESTRICTIONS AND AVOID ANY DECISION THAT CLASH WITH OTHER'S OPINION....:D

Think about all the problems - This airline will always have problems.
 

Morale is low, how can it change? Improve the conditions? I am not sure we will se any improvement, positive changes take a lot of time here. Like I said before there have been only few positive changes since the beginning of this thread. As for the management, at least I can say they comunicate information and negative information more than any other management has, also we have to wait and see what positive effect the changes have.

This airline has a lot of problems and they are not capable of solving all of them, so they solve small problems and patch the big ones. These are only some FD related problems.

What happens when pilots leave.
Junior FOs leave, this blocks the transfer of senior FOs to other fleets and others' upgrades too. People are waiting a long time on A320 to go anywhere other than India and Bahrain.

Remember that for anyone to upgrade or transfer, there has to be a slot available to receive the pilot on his new fleet and there has to be a pilot to take his slot on his current fleet.

They need CPs and they want to transfer them to other fleets. They can't upgrade as many FOs and they can't lose a CP from A300/A330/A340/B777 to A320. Solution typed DECs waiting 4-6 months for sim training. SOs who have to wait 6-12 months to start flying and fly 6 months with a cover pilot, FO, before he actually is of any use to this airline, while delaying any other training because the need of a TRI/LI for the SOs.

What's wrong with this? I guess something has to change, maybe attract new qualified FOs who won't want to leave? I think the main problem here is the A320, the only way to attract someone is with widebody, give them something they can't get so many other places, or money.

What a European FO thinks is that he has to chose his airline and stay there that's the only way to get a good job as a CP. So why wait for an upgrade he can't really use, in an airline he doesn't like and that doesn't like him, in a place that he really doesn't like?

I don't blame anyone for leaving, I just want the airline to start doing the right thing.

I almost totally agree with your assertions...
But how can it be that ethiad is upgrading 8 people a month? how can it be that everybody else has a structured training and qatar airways simply struggle everyday wasting a lot of money because of training delays?
The answer is not easy but I can tell you that at a certain point you MUST win or loose the battle for an efficent organization.
There are a lot of very experienced first officer on all fleet, better qualified and experienced than a lot of "coming from nowhere" DEC's. So the decision is to invest in internal resources and create a virtually perfect career path, or not.
The result may be very different in one or the other way: you loose people or you gain them....just as is happening to more reputable airlines, where people join because they know that the airline is serious regarding fairness in career...

We'll see what will come in the next months towards the end of the year, where most people will decide about their future.

Regarding the Flt Ops management, they should have the courage of being innovative and courageous......two words that are very difficult to fit in this airline.

Best regards
BSB

Haven´t 3 guys got fired recently?

Qatar & Civil Unrest
 

Will the civil unrest involve Qatar also?

Will the civil unrest involve Qatar also?


Only the pilots from the 320 fleet:rolleyes:

Human resources here is diabolical. Nothing will ever change unless the changes come from the chairman and board of directors.
No changes will come frm flights ops, especially now that the EVPFO is related to the accountable manager of the airline.
The middle management frm flt ops is just gonna follow orders frm the EVPFO so nothing will change.

good one Paper Lad.:hmm:
Babysanbox..i don't think everybody was expecting any improvement here..only the junior("naive") one maybe..the senior one get used to the well known management technic here, i'm talking off course about the famous "Carrot agitated in front of donkeys(pilots) nose" technic.. in application for years now in Qr and still in application today:our New 320 F.M keep promising new guys during their Probation interview (after 6 months) an improvement of the roster, salary..bla bla bla....bla bla bla...

The only good news for the A-320 fleet this week(and this one unlike many others is well confirmed!!)....: we get rid of one indian destination/layover...:O..:BLR has been taken by the A-330.

Latest QR info Feb 2011
 

To surprise knowledge test is totally changed and forget about previous threads and Q&A, new sets are taken from JAA data base (50 questions mixed), so study those and you will succeed. Second phase and personal interview is more or less same, split in two parts, first knowledge about company, CEO name and ruling family, aircraft fleet and orders, gas to fuel innovation, and other personal questions, think easy. Second part suppose to be tech knowledge but forget about it, it is most frustrating and irritating part, questions like explain situation you were not popular?? or you had chance to delegate job but you did not and regret for??explain conflict situation?? explain situation you had a foot on but you regretted?? may be few more but you lucky if you go even trough those haha. How unskilled (psychology) interviewer (pilot) will conclude your profile from answers, still remarkable isn't it? Third phase SIM is as per info given A330 usually and basics, follow standard SOP and callouts and you are good.
Do your prep in phases importance, knowledge test than shrink Q&A and last SIM (you pass first two, last one is peanut). Good luck to all.