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casablanca 3rd Feb 2019 02:04

As always you want to make a good impression but the main purpose of the Skype interview is to conduct a very basic English assessment

DonVitto 5th Feb 2019 05:44

Hello all, did my assesment for DEC airbus in July las year, been swimming in the holding pool ever since, today I received an email asking if I would be interested in a position with Amiri Flight, I couldnít find anything recent on them, can anyone shed some light?
Is the pay the same? Are the benefits the same?
Does this mean I basically screwed up my assessment and Iím now being offered this as a consolation prize?

thanks in advance,

DV.

colofly72 5th Feb 2019 16:04

Your 10k a month is not quite accurate.

1st. Cost of living in doha is extremely expensive beyond the costs if you wish to compare EU for instance and Qatar is not a great place to live, the quality of life is pretty low, very expensive a place taylor made for the locals that have a lot of money but not for normal working people
2nd. For you to make 10k take home, most likely you will fly 777 with rosters based on 90 to 110 hrs per month, It is pretty exhausting giving the jet lag and short layovers plus minimum rest at home, you'll barely see your family
3rd. Savings capability, consider you have a family with 2 children, yes they pay for schooling however just tuition, schools are ridiculously expensive in Doha, and quality is not the best, any additional costs you will pay for them. (There has not been any conscious salary increase for the past 4 years that can cope up with the cost of living in Qatar)
4th. Lack of opportunity for your wife. The Mrs most likely will stay at home and becomes a real problem after a while. They get really bored and to get a job is quite difficult there is no protection against sexual harassment and other issues, there has been lots of cases about that

When you refer to the 10k a month you need to see the whole picture

bumpy737 5th Feb 2019 20:45

Friend did the screening for the 787(FO) in November and will be joining in March...

ERJ190 8th Feb 2019 00:26

For A320 FOs...any ideia of how the rosters look like? As it seems like in the website, as an a320 FO Im selectable for both A320 or 330/340. Any chance to be selected for the wide ones? What about upgrades on those fleets right now?

APU_inop 9th Feb 2019 08:39

Rosters on 320 seems to be quite good and their time to command is the shortest among the fleets. Reg. fleet change to wb, it's all down to what's needed at the moment. Hard to tell.

jadrolinija 9th Feb 2019 13:12


Originally Posted by APU_inop (Post 10384824)
Rosters on 320 seems to be quite good and their time to command is the shortest among the fleets. Reg. fleet change to wb, it's all down to what's needed at the moment. Hard to tell.

Is there any chance to stay on 320 fleet or pilots are forced to go to wide body? Thank you!

ERJ190 9th Feb 2019 22:58


Originally Posted by APU_inop (Post 10384824)
Rosters on 320 seems to be quite good and their time to command is the shortest among the fleets. Reg. fleet change to wb, it's all down to what's needed at the moment. Hard to tell.

Thanks for your time. Hope to join asap!

HowardB 10th Feb 2019 15:22

I would like to provide an alternative view of Qatar to colofly72

First a disclaimer - I am not a pilot & don't work for QA so cannot comment on them as an employer. However I first came to Qatar in '91 and since then have spent over ten years living in Doha split over three separate contracts.

Quality of life is generally good and its one of the safest places my wife and I have lived. Prices are different compared with the rest of the world - some things like petrol & prime steak are inexpensive but others like accommodation are high. There are world class sports facilities and good international schools along with a superb museum but since its a small country you will need to travel regularly if you get bored easily.

Finally if they want, there is plenty for ladies to do. Maids are very affordable so they are free to work (until recently my company employed a Serbian, an Indian & a Jordanian ladies as engineers in our small division) or to join with one of the ladies social groups. Some women drive (like my better half) but for those that find the traffic an issue Uber & similar services its easy to get around without the need to drive.

captain.weird 11th Feb 2019 11:30


Originally Posted by APU_inop (Post 10384824)
Rosters on 320 seems to be quite good and their time to command is the shortest among the fleets. Reg. fleet change to wb, it's all down to what's needed at the moment. Hard to tell.

What is the time to go command for A320 guys in that case? Is it directly after three years within QR if you meet the hours?

FlyingOW 11th Feb 2019 11:46


Originally Posted by captain.weird (Post 10386727)
What is the time to go command for A320 guys in that case? Is it directly after three years within QR if you meet the hours?

The Airbus guys from my batch got their command last year in around 3.5 years. The Boeing lads currently wait around 4.5 years.

OW

FLY BY WIRE 13th Feb 2019 08:58

Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but what is the deal with accommodation in Doha when joining Qatar?

I understand that when you join you are automatically placed in company accommodation (thus not getting the housing allowance) and you have to apply to leave so you can find your own place. This can take many months depending on circumstances.
Can anyone confirm this, or add any more information?

Thanks in advance,

FBW


A777Er 13th Feb 2019 15:28


Originally Posted by FLY BY WIRE (Post 10388460)
Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but what is the deal with accommodation in Doha when joining Qatar?

I understand that when you join you are automatically placed in company accommodation (thus not getting the housing allowance) and you have to apply to leave so you can find your own place. This can take many months depending on circumstances.
Can anyone confirm this, or add any more information?

Thanks in advance,

FBW


yeah apparently now all new joiners are automatically sent to company accommodations and what I heard that the waiting list to leave the company acc. Is pretty long some I know been waiting for more than a year and unfortunately they have 2 waiting lists one to leave the company acc. And the other to move to a different location in Doha but still in company acc.
unfrotuantely you can only be listed in 1 list so you need to choose which one.
Rumors the only way to leave the company acc. And get your housing allowance is to buy an apartment and show the proofs but again I am not 100% sure.

Broda 16th Feb 2019 11:06

What are the chances to get on the 777 when applying with 1.000 hrs on the B737NG as a first officer? (Are applicants with lower hrs always planned for the 787 or do I have a chance to get the 777 rating?)

And do low hours in the logbook mean, that I have to wait longer in the holding pool?

casablanca 17th Feb 2019 03:22

Nothing is 100% but in general they have wanted 2500 hours for 777 so most likely go to 787.
I honestly donít know why they treat the 787 as the beginner plane as it is even more complex than the 777- think it has to do with type of flying as 777 does more long haul and the 787 has more medium sectors.
there are lots of factors, including notice period required, etc....but it does seem that more experienced or those who already have experience on type are called first.

Vref1.3 17th Feb 2019 19:22

Someone from QR can till me what the situation on the 320 looks like? Short of pilots or a lot of people swimming in the pool at the moment?
Rosters ok? Considering leaving my gig in Europe for some ME action...

cheers

PapaVictorPV 18th Feb 2019 02:59

A lot of pilots in the pool, I know at least 6 from my company swimming in the Qatar Pool (320 DEC)

casablanca 18th Feb 2019 14:17

Currently short on Boeing...... at the moment still quite a few waiting for movement on airbus


Che Xindamail 19th Feb 2019 09:09

For all of you waiting for an opening at QR, be aware of the impact of EASA FTLs that were adopted on 1/1. I have for many years praised the developmemt of QR over the past seven years, but the lifestyle impact of the new FTLs are disastrous.

There is no minimum days off requirement anymore. The only requirement is 2 consecutive days off, twice a month. The rest of the month, the only requirememt is 36 hours off every 7 days. For example, if you have requested the first 4 days of the month off, that now fulfills the requirememt for 2 consecutive days off twice a month. The rest of that month you will work 6 on 1 off. Guaranteed.

If you have family in Doha, you will not see them. If you are single, all regular errands need to be done on that single day off (unless it’s the weekend, when nothing is open). You will not have a social life because all your friends are working a similar roster, and you will be too exhausted to do anything but try to recover on your single day off.

You will have patterns involving a 2-3-day trip, followed by minimum rest in Doha (that’s 12 hours to catch up with your wife and kids) do another 2-3-day trip, followed by the single day off. Repeat. Landing at 5AM and reporting again at midnight? EASA says you’re good to go. Happy wife, happy life?

Be aware, the EASA FTLs are a target for rostering and a lifestyle disaster for the crew. A real shame, as the company had developed into a very good employer.

Python27 19th Feb 2019 17:39


Originally Posted by Che Xindamail (Post 10394415)
For all of you waiting for an opening at QR, be aware of the impact of EASA FTLs that were adopted on 1/1. I have for many years praised the developmemt of QR over the past seven years, but the lifestyle impact of the new FTLs are disastrous.

There is no minimum days off requirement anymore. The only requirement is 2 consecutive days off, twice a month. The rest of the month, the only requirememt is 36 hours off every 7 days. For example, if you have requested the first 4 days of the month off, that now fulfills the requirememt for 2 consecutive days off twice a month. The rest of that month you will work 6 on 1 off. Guaranteed.

If you have family in Doha, you will not see them. If you are single, all regular errands need to be done on that single day off (unless itís the weekend, when nothing is open). You will not have a social life because all your friends are working a similar roster, and you will be too exhausted to do anything but try to recover on your single day off.

You will have patterns involving a 2-3-day trip, followed by minimum rest in Doha (thatís 12 hours to catch up with your wife and kids) do another 2-3-day trip, followed by the single day off. Repeat. Landing at 5AM and reporting again at midnight? EASA says youíre good to go. Happy wife, happy life?

Be aware, the EASA FTLs are a target for rostering and a lifestyle disaster for the crew. A real shame, as the company had developed into a very good employer.

Finally some true around, not apple polishers and company's social media staff posting here. But you're rushing your opinion mate : according one inop here, you need to wait a few months ( or even years) to feel the impact of the QEASA regulation on our lifes.... And btw, this regulation is not even close of the EASA FCL...


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