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CLOUD999 7th Jan 2013 17:41

Thanks Scruff, im trying to work out how the present advert can achieve its April or shortly thereafter start deadline, since it was only placed on Xmas eve. Given a standard 3 month notice period things would have to move pretty fast for selection.
I will wait and see :hmm:

Interview Question.. Name 10 bad points about yourself ... No1 - can be impatient at times :D

scruff 7th Jan 2013 17:58

Cloud999
 
I haven't seen the new advert,therefore don't know the requirement.

What I can say is that the interview is very freindly and its an enjoyable day with Qatar Airways.I can't find anything negative with them,except a little patience required,due to there rather large recruitment.

I hope you get an interview and enjoy the 5 star treatment while on interview.

Good luck and enjoy.

I have only positive views so far cloud999 as a DEC.

Non rev 7th Jan 2013 19:50

Just spoke with one of the recruiters and they stated Qatar has suspended hiring for FO's and may resume late summer.

DaCosta 7th Jan 2013 20:03

Are they gonna suspend the aircraft orders too?
Otherwise, who will fly the new aircraft?

CLOUD999 7th Jan 2013 20:31

Good to hear your positive comments scruff. With such large expansion I am sure patience will be required at times, but I am sure thats nothing new to most of us.
I hope I get the chance to see for myself, despite some adverse comments on this forum I see a lot of good points with QR, it suites my personal situation also, hence the application.

speedhold 7th Jan 2013 20:54

@non rev
who did u talk to can u pm please. And is it for non type rated FO or SO
thanks

SAS-A321 7th Jan 2013 22:06


P.S:To NTSOs, maybe not a bad idea to get a A320 type rating while you’re waiting to put yourself at the same level of CTC’s or Tunisian guys already type-rated?
That would just be a waste of money, since QR requires the rated pilots with less than 500 hours on type to redo the type rating. This is one of the things causing the huge backlog they have in their training department.

scruff 8th Jan 2013 07:07

Cloud999
 
Cloud999,

The informative experience given was for the interview only!

GgW 8th Jan 2013 07:40


Just spoke with one of the recruiters and they stated Qatar has suspended hiring for FO's and may resume late summer.

Are they gonna suspend the aircraft orders too?
Otherwise, who will fly the new aircraft?
Look at their fleet and orders page here.

Its has not been updated for a while now because the have 5x B787 and not 1.
But they have received about (from memory) 7-9 A320 in 2012. So I think they wil receive another 7 A320 (classics) this year. They will also get another 5 B787's and lets take a wild guest of 7 B777. That gives them 7+7+5 =19 frames for 2013. Times that with 18 ( 9 Capt's and 9 FO's per aircraft) you will get a possible 342 pilots for the year(2013).When I was interviewed they said they need 700 pilots in 2013:ugh: So unless QR already have a few 100 FO's and FT/NT SO, walking around Doha at the moment doing nothing or are currently in training I cannot see them stop/suspend recruiting FO's.

Next year they will receive the last few A320's and the first A380 will arrive in January 2014. So the only really big deliveries will be the B787 and the B777. Because there is going to be quite a long time before the A320(neo) and A350 will arrive in Doha.

This is just what I think but stand to be corrected.

iQatar 8th Jan 2013 08:10

Qr is advertising for A320 Captains on their website.

DaCosta 8th Jan 2013 10:32


Times that with 18 ( 9 Capt's and 9 FO's per aircraft) you will get a possible 342 pilots for the year(2013).
And don't forget the ones who leave the airline every year.

One question, the pilots for Qatar Amiri and Qatar Executive come from the same recruitment of Qatar Airways or they have their own recruitment?

robusto 8th Jan 2013 13:00

I am an A320 DEC, 8000TT, 4500 on type, waiting since late March 2012, no job offer, August update received, but since then no news. Currently unemployed. Has any DEC already received the November update? A reply will be appreciated. Thank you! I am about to take another job...it is really bad and sad to be treated like this..we are professionals after all..

casablanca 8th Jan 2013 15:11

@Robusto.
The no update is aggravating to say the least! It is hard to plan your future like that, and I would say it may not be good to turn down a job.....however like you I had no update in November as was promised and all of a sudden had job offer late December. This followed closely to them advertising 777 Decs on website. Now they are advertising for 320 Decs....you may already be in the pipeline. Just something to consider and maybe you can try to contact them if you really need to make a decision.

@Dacosta
I am not sure but I "think" that Qatar Airways and Qatar Executive recruitment are linked together...I am basing this off of my interview experience when the recruiters asked the group...Do we have anyone here today from the executive side?

robusto 8th Jan 2013 15:17

@ Casablanca.
Thank you very much for the information. To be honest that advertisement made me mad..Good luck my friend. All the best.

Basset hound 8th Jan 2013 18:09

I am currently involved in the recruitment process for a position with Qatar Executive. All of the correspondence I've received from them is signed by someone in the recruitment office at Qatar Airways.

TwoTone-7 8th Jan 2013 20:12

Presently, requirements are for DEC Widebody.

Yes, recruitment for QR and Executive is done together and same department. Once joining, you deal with different people all together. QR and Executive are same. Amiri is different.

Nick 1 10th Jan 2013 10:00

Transport: Tunisair cuts personnel to avoid crisis
1,700 over a total of 8,500 to be cut in two years
07 JANUARY, 15:12

(ANSAmed) - Tunis, January 7 - The management of debt-stricken Tunisian air carrier Tunisair is preparing to implement a plan to tackle a crisis which started in the months following the revolution in spite of a growing number of passengers.

The crisis, said the airline's President and Director General Ranah Jrad, is mostly due to the cost of personnel - 8,500 workers - which is considered too high for a company which is strongly penalized by its old planes and has too few resources for a renewal plan that would make it more competitive. A first step will be to cut down the number of workers by 1,700 units, 20% of the total. The first consequences of this bi-annual plan (2013-2014) will become effective in the coming months when 329 workers who are retiring will not be replaced. The management of Tunisair has said the company could be hiring workers for short periods of time if necessary. According to Jrad, the measures will enable the company to save 165 million euros which, together with the growth in the number of passengers in 2012, could open a positive new phase. Unions however are gearing up for battle and have accused the state of not holding dear the future of Tunisair as proven by the recent concession to Qatar Airways of favourable conditions at the international airport of Tunis.

The Tunisian airline is planning to boost connections in the African continent and will soon inaugurate a flight connecting Tunisia to the Democratic Republic of Congo and Burkina Faso. The airline will however need more capital which Jdar said will be brought from the current 53 million euros to 90 million - an announcement which seems to imply the arrival of a strategic partner given that the state, the company's main shareholder, is debt-stricken. (ANSAmed)

iQatar 10th Jan 2013 12:39

In the December 2012 issue of Flight Training News , a QR Captain. Has confirmed that in partnership with CTC, they will start a training programme for the MPL. It will start in the Spring of 2013. And they will start with a initial requirement of 72 pilots per year. Apparently they have been planning this for 2 years now.

Sorry I could not find a internet link to this. QR must be really pleased with the 18 candidates they have received from CTC to go to this extend. They also said selection will be open for all nationalities.

At least what that means is they still do need a lot of pilots. Because the MPL's would only be ready by begining 2015.

twapilot1971 10th Jan 2013 22:14

Offer Recived.
 
Hi all,

I received the offer of employment for 777 DEC on January 6th. I interviewed first week of May 2012. So they are finally getting through the pool for Captains.

captain.weird 11th Jan 2013 08:55

iQatar
 
So you are saying that the MPL Programme will be open for all nationalities right? What will happen to the sponsorship programme for the Qataries that do their training at FTE?

Btw, is the MPL Programme fully sponsored, part sponsored or is it all for the student?

Thanks man.. Good news.

iQatar 11th Jan 2013 09:51

@captain.weird

I have just read the article in the flight training news. I don't think it will be fully sponsored, why should they. Get yourselve a copy of the Flight Training News, or speak to CTC directly they should have all the answers.

mekrad 14th Jan 2013 13:56

Need help
 
Hi everyone;

I have applied for Qatar Airways position and my application status is : "on hold" with another message :rolleyes: :
Your application for this vacancy is being considered. In order to ensure fairness in your application you are now unable to update your details.

Please need help, what is mean and what's next:ooh:

iQatar 15th Jan 2013 20:02

Does anybody know when the delivery date is for QR's first A320NEO? I think on they their website they still need to take delivery of a few A320 ''classics''

Samolin 15th Jan 2013 20:37

SO - 1 stripe
FO - 2 stripes
Senior FO - 3 stripes
Capt - 4 stripes

Nieks 16th Jan 2013 09:23

NTSO's
 
Dear Swimmers,

The manager of the recruitment has confirmed the easing of the requirements for NTSO. He said: "To be honest, there is NO need for SO's (FT/NT) in the next financial year. All the So's needed are drawn from the Qatar Aviation College. This may change of course, but this is the most likely scenario. There might be a requirement for some FTSO's in November next year, on a merit base."

To be short, SO's try this year with another airline and join Qatar as a FO or Captain. Your courage for waiting may not be rewarded.

Cheers,:ok:

disagreeable 16th Jan 2013 09:31


Dear Swimmers,

The manager of the recruitment has confirmed the easing of the requirements for NTSO. He said: "To be honest, there is NO need for SO's (FT/NT) in the next financial year. All the So's needed are drawn from the Qatar Aviation College. This may change of course, but this is the most likely scenario. There might be a requirement for some FTSO's in November next year, on a merit base."

To be short, SO's try this year with another airline and join Qatar as a FO or Captain. Your courage for waiting may not be rewarded.
All of which was told to you swimmers months ago.

condensationtrails 16th Jan 2013 09:40

disagreeable; Nieks; & others...
 
What about those SOs (FT/NT) that have signed the offer of employment?
I've heard of a few...

DaCosta 16th Jan 2013 10:13

If that is the reality they should tell us in the FEB update how the things are so we can move ahead.

checkthisout 16th Jan 2013 10:27

If this is the reality, QR can go look for its pilots somewhere else. It could have been a great thing. I am too waiting since a long time. But if they make me wait for another year - they can kiss me goodbye.

As many wrote already - youre always only as good as your last flight. Everybody knows that someone can have a bad day. No problem, security goes first, go around. Not in this company. There is no forward planning, there is inequality amongst different nationalities within scheduling and payment, there are random terminations and no unions. Cabin Crews are reporting each others like crazy to get promoted faster or to get their head out of the guillutine. Cabin Seniors have more to say than most Flight Deck Crew, as they threaten to report if they have a bad day.

Of course it is not always like that. There are nice colleagues and happy people as well. Some of the stuff I am willing to accept.

To be honest, I wouldve come for the ME experience and the money, and pay my debt with hard work. But I wont make a fool out of myself just because they like me to do that. And I am not wasting good time of my life to be their puppet.

Lets see end of February.

iQatar 16th Jan 2013 10:32


To be honest, there is NO need for SO's (FT/NT) in the next financial year
Just another bunch of conflicting info. Some people in the recruitment department says yes, and some of them says no. I think it all depends to who you speak to on the day. I don't know who and what to believe anymore. The only thing that I do know is that I am not sitting and waiting for QR anymore.

jeanpaul172 16th Jan 2013 15:07

NTSO / FTSO
 
Hello guys,

I too have heard from someone in recruitement:
'no Normal SO's anymore in 2013, and a very small number of some FTSO's might be needed --> second half 2013'.

The truth? I still don't know.

What I do know is that a friend of mine (FTSO), has been in and especially OUT of the country of QR since march 2012. Even as of today he still is in his home country on paid leave waiting to start his line training. Matching rumours with these facts, I guess we are in for a bad 2013...

checkthisout 16th Jan 2013 21:30

If its ID90 or ID50 it is not free, is it?

Common sense... ME seems to have a lack of it.

(Family members can travel ID90 Economy though)

clintsta 19th Jan 2013 23:27

Does anyone know what this means?
 
I was interviewed for F/O position B777 in May 2012 (type rated with 4000hrs on type). Was accepted and put in the pool with an expected update at end of November. Since I received no update by mid January I emailed them. They replied saying that I: 'didn't receive an update as I am no longer in their talent pool. You will receive an update in a few weeks from us.'
Does this mean that I am about to get a contract sent to me? Does it mean that I have been dumped from the system? Anyone know how I should read this????

speedhold 20th Jan 2013 00:18

Hi there
I interviewed in feb 2012. For the a320 direct entry fo and in july got the talent pool email no update since july 2012. Can u pm there email I have tried several different email and no reply

checkthisout 20th Jan 2013 07:16

This would be very ridicolous if they really didnt take those people. There are Tunesians flying for Qatar Airways now.

Also the country/state of Qatar is believed to support the islamistic "terrorists" which now are in northern Mali with weapons and communication technologies.

During the Lybian crisis they financed the rebels and played along with NATO on the other side.
But some of those rebels turned out to be quite radical and are now among the riots in Mali.

If you take Syria for example its the same thing. Financing rebel groups with weapons on the one side and granting Assad political asylum in Doha on another one. Its all readable in the news if you know what to look for...

Hypocrats! Trying to look good from the outside, but rotten on the inside.

speedhold 20th Jan 2013 14:10

Update from Qatar finally
 
Hi there guys this is the email i got this morning

interviewed feb 2012 direct entry First Officer assigned A320.
pass interview email 2 weeks later march 2012
signed and returned contract in may 2012
talent pool email in july 2012
No update till todays email see below ..


Dear XXX

Please be informed that as of today, the next available Date of Joining for First Officers as per training requirement, is on November 2013.

The situation is unlike to change is the near future, but we will let you know if any vacant is open before the mentioned date.


Thanks and Regards


Recruitment Coordinator

jeanpaul172 20th Jan 2013 15:52

@Speedhold
 
@ Speedhold

Was the e-mail you received this morning a reply to an earlier mail you sent them? People from Recruitment / HR seem to give complete random answers to questions asked by those contacting them!!!.

Or was the e-mail sent to you without any previous corresponding? (except for your previous updates..).

speedhold 20th Jan 2013 15:59

jeanpaul172
I have sent them multiply emails as i have not heard anything since july 2012 . I really needed to know whats going on . Today they emailed me saying this from a recrutiment coordinator . This same person told a friend of mine that i wasnt in the pool in august 2012 when he asked about my status as he was in doha getting his resdient permit and medical . So honestly I really dont know whats going on as in the email they say that is there iis a vacant position then i may get called sooner. Its a shame that there is not a concrete answer as when im suppose to join ..

jeanpaul172 20th Jan 2013 16:15

@Speedhold
 
I know how you're feeling.
I personally got the message that I'm definetly not needed in 2013. I highly doubt I will be given the opportunity to join at all..It has been over 1 year since my interview and I know others that have been waiting for 15 months+ since their interview as of today.
Fact is I (and many others) applied as NTSO and they probably just don't need us anymore.

For you I think it's a different scenario. They have been saying they need 700+ pilots a year at least for the coming years.

I really don't understand what is going on. The e-mail you received is once again very short and confusing (I highly doubt the guy that replied to you knows your file, ie the fact that you already got your offer!!), why is there no one in QR that has the politeness, willingness and the balls to tell us what is really going on and more importantly: WHAT we can expect!?

Iver 20th Jan 2013 17:10

Very clear message for those who qualify and have good experience: EK and the other big UAE airline should be your top choices in the Gulf. Simple as that. If you haven't already, send out your apps as soon as possible.


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