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drfaust 24th Jan 2012 18:58

To SAS321: Maybe they are hiring guys with a few thousand relevant multi crew hours that actually have significant experience and something to contribute, contrary to forking up 50K for a type and a payforyourlinetrainingandgtfo programme. In the end, they have the sims. If they want inexperienced, they will hire SO's or better yet train their own cadets.

Cheers from an ex-DH8D driver. ;)

etravis82 24th Jan 2012 20:58

AKing, I interviewed the 28th of Dec as well and havent heard anything even after emailing them to follow up with the results. Everyone Iv talked to over there has said its taken them 5 months from interview to class date. After reading the forums thats starting to sound like the exception, not the rule.

Black Pudding 25th Jan 2012 00:39

Forgot to mention, another reason for people wanting to leave is because their wives don't like it here and they rerurn back to their home country, thus husbands eventually follow. Must say though, lots of ex pat wifes do like it here, not all, but some do.

Happy wife, happy life

speedhold 25th Jan 2012 01:20

Would any f/o at Qatar. Plz inbox me a schedule on the 320 just wanted to see what a typical schedule looks like for a f/o and of.course blank out personal info ...

mtr 25th Jan 2012 06:25

Well done Black Pudding!!
 
Well done Black Pudding!!!Everything vey well said!!

Expat Pilot 25th Jan 2012 06:33

Roster
 
Black Pudding,

Thanks for the input as I am looking more for facts. Can you or anyone give me some idea on the 777 roster such as 5 on/away, 2 off/at home? roughly how many times would I see my family in a month?

As to individuals getting sacked....Is this really stupid stuff or just in general dumb things? Because I have done allot of dumb things in my life.

Does training have a high failure rate or is it somewhat rare? I do understand that you must prepare for a check ride. Any help is appreciated.

SAS-A321 25th Jan 2012 08:45

To DrFaust: I am quite sure that QR HR will sort out people who have paid for line training. I will not be one of them.
There is actually also low experienced pilots who can contribute with something, just like there are experienced guys who do not contribute with anything. It is the job of QR to figure out who is the right for their company.

maddog37 25th Jan 2012 16:03

This will cost you a beer....
If you continue on the bottom of the page says Click here to apply now , and after that just click on SO fast track you will read this:

We are currently hiring Second Officers - Fast Track on aircrafts which flies to destinations such as Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Venice, Shiraz, Aleppo, Bucharest, Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam. In order to be considered for a position, our minimum requirements are
  • Valid ICAO ATPL or Frozen ATPL
  • Valid Class One Medical
  • ICAO English Proficiency Minimum level 4
  • Experience Commensurate With Age
  • Meet atleast one category of the flying experience listed below:
    • A Minimum of 1000 hrs on a modern multi pilot, multi engine, turboprop aircraft greater than 12,000 kg MTOW
    • A Minimum of 300 hours on a multi engine, multi crew jet aircraft
    • A Minimum of 1500 hours on a multi crew multi engine helicopter
    • A Minimum of 2000 hours Pilot in Command on single engine, single crew turboprop aircraft (Multi Crew Co-operation Certificate required).
Good luck!

gdukkoq 25th Jan 2012 17:32

Apply as a FTSO and if succesful by the time of joining if you get your 1000hrs jet mark you will join as FO, that's what I'm hoping to do, as I'm waiting for joining date and 4 months away from the 1000hrs jet mark.

Cheers

Chuck Noris 25th Jan 2012 19:30

Kim I'm not sure I follow you. You don't want to be SO for more then 4 month but you don't know what SO's are doing at QR?:ugh:

Do I get it right?

speedhold 25th Jan 2012 19:48

interview
 
Is the first officer interview a 1 day thing or a few days can anyone please tell me
Thanks

Chuck Noris 25th Jan 2012 20:01

Only one day

gdukkoq 26th Jan 2012 02:28

Why don't you listen lil Kim! If you apply as a FTSO and you get FO hrs by joining they will upgrade you. But if you apply as FO without the hrs you will totally discredit yourself with QR. Be honnest or it won't work with QR.

StephanK 26th Jan 2012 09:25

Another question ,

What plates does QR use for the sim assesment ? Jeppesen or EAG ? Thanks !

tripjet320 26th Jan 2012 11:02

Hello guys !

Can someone tell me if they hire FO directly on 330/340 and if they pay for the 320-330/340 CCQ when you are only 320 type rated ?

Many thanks !

VintageRed 27th Jan 2012 11:29

If you've "accepted" the offer from Qatar, but prior to arriving in Doha to start the job, you've changed your mind (family issues) and dont want to go, are you still liable for anything?

The way i see it is that you havent actually signed the employment contract yet and havent actually commenced work, therefore your not bound to anything.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Red

Black Pudding 27th Jan 2012 12:55

StephanK Jeppesen LHR


tripjet320 Bonded CCQ


VintageRed No

YV757 27th Jan 2012 13:03

Relocation, moving allowance??
 
Hi folks.

I'm joining QR pretty soon, and I wanted to know if they offer a relocation, moving, furniture allowance. Because during the interview they said that we would get a fully furnished company accommodation...but later in the process they sent an e-mail saying that we would get a temporary accommodation for 30 days and we would have to look for our own place and then notify to collect the HRA....but they didn't mention anything about how to furnish or equip the new house...anyone? Thanks!

tripjet320 27th Jan 2012 13:29

Black Pudding, Do you know what experience they want to go directly on the 330/340 when you are only 320 experienced ?

Cheers

Black Pudding 27th Jan 2012 13:29

YV757


Most places you rent here are furnished. Best thing to do is send your cargo at a later date when you know where your going to be living or if it arrives, don't unpack it until you remove.


You do not get any allowance for removing. Its not big deal as plenty of van drivers around willing to help you move for cash in hand LOL


You do not get any allowance for furnishings either as most rent furnished places.


Would not worry about it and wait unti you get here and then have a good look around. Are you coming alone or with a family and if with a family, are you planning on them coming to Doha the same time as you or at a later date ?

You get cargo allowance for you, your wife and for each child you have and you dont have to use it straight away, you can use it up to 12 months after arriving, so you can come with a couple of cases to begin with and then return to your home country withing 12 months and send out whatever you can using the sum of your cargo allowance.

YV757 27th Jan 2012 14:59

Thank you Black Pudding.

I already made contact with some realtors in Doha, and a soon as I arrive and I'm done with my initial paperwork, etc., I will arrange a meeting for a look around. I'm coming alone first, and in a few months, my wife with the kids.

I guess that we will do as you recommend, and use the cargo allowance gradually.

I hope to see you soon in Doha. Cheers!

Black Pudding 27th Jan 2012 15:14

Not 100% sure you can use it gradually, so before you do, enquire or you may have used it once and then your stumped. You can ask about this in HR when you have arrived.

YV757 27th Jan 2012 15:34

Wilco!
 
Ok. I will do that. Thanks! :ok:

F14 27th Jan 2012 15:44

YV757.

Any heads up on which realtors are good? Also who take care of the deposit and realtor fees?

YV757 27th Jan 2012 16:44

I don't know yet
 
Hey F14,

I don't know yet. I just e-mailed Century 21 Qatar, and they said that as soon as I'm established, to give them a call so they can give me a tour. Try also Qatar Real Property and Better Homes.

As for the fees and commissions....also don't know....but I guess we're the ones running with that expense...

gdukkoq 27th Jan 2012 17:37

YV757 you are lucky, how long ago was your interview ? Which fleet are you going to join ? (FO I suppose)

FMSPEED 28th Jan 2012 01:39

Hey guys, i've been reading a lot, this thread lately, but i can't seem to find if Qatar would take guys to the FO position having around 1000 to 1200 hours on regional jets ..such as Embraers and CRJ's with MTOW over 30 tons. Any help is appreciated.


Regards !

CDNATPL 28th Jan 2012 03:09

FMSPEED: Are you kidding? do you really not know the answer to that? not only is your answer on the Qatar web site but its also on the page previous to this one.

First officers
Minimum of 1,000 hours in one of the following categories:
Multicrew, multiengine jet aircraft

Command of turbo-prop above 20,000 kg MTOW
High performance military jets
Valid ICAO ATPL or frozen ATPL
Valid instrument rating
Valid Class 1 medical
Minimum level 4 ICAO English proficiency

Homo Ludens 28th Jan 2012 05:36

Renting:
- Best option: rent from the landlord - no extra fees. It does not have to be a private, single property ouner - take a look at Al Emadi Enterprizes, the biggest real estate ouner and developer in the accomodation market. Or at least one of.
- If you need to do it with a realtor - try Homes2Rent. They advertize themselves as 'british manadget company'. Low prices, good servise, not so grate locations, but my information on them is about 3 years old. May be the situation changed...
Good luck and remember - there are a lot of places available now, it's a 'buyer's' market, so choose carefully, take you time.
Cheers!

Hobbsmeter 28th Jan 2012 06:27

Hi everyone!

I'm a long time lurker but a first time poster. I just wanted to share the good news that I got offered an A320 FO position this week!

I interviewed in early December, got the good news eMail 6 weeks later and surprisingly I got the contract/offer eMail just 2 weeks after that! I'm still in the process of filling it out and emailing it back to HR.

A little about me: Mid 30's, married, American. Currently a downgraded RJ FO with about 8500 hours TT.

The wife and I are very excited about this. Me for obvious reasons and her because her life-long dream was to travel to/study in the Middle East.

Anyway, thanks to all who posted in this thread and elsewhere, your help has been much appreciated. I'll be posting a lot more in the near future as I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions to ask, but I'll also be more than happy to share my experiences and hopefully provide some answers as well. :ok:

inner 28th Jan 2012 07:18

8 weeks from now i've submitted my application (fo). So far not 1 single reply.

Who beats me??

AKing 28th Jan 2012 11:40

Hi HobbsMeter,

When exactly in December did you do your interview? I did mine on the 28th December.

TX

thib017 28th Jan 2012 11:42

JUST BE PATIENT! IT'S AVIATION RULES!

I had to wait 10 weeks before getting the inviation, 7 for the interview (15th november), 3 for the positive feedback (6th december) and finally 7 to get the contract (yesterday)!
They are just overbooked! A friend told me that they're receiving more than 2500 applications/month!!!!!!!

stud7094 28th Jan 2012 11:46

I do...10 weeks for me no invite...:ugh:

Tobbyads 28th Jan 2012 12:32

Hi there...

I just wanted to ask if there is anybody else with the start date 5th of february!? ;-)
I am leaving germany next saturday.
Would be great to see anybody of you guys over there.

(A320 F/O)....

All the best!
Tobbyads

2low2fast 28th Jan 2012 18:55

Hi all,

I am starting on the 4th of Marsh (FO A320), anyone else?

zerotohero 28th Jan 2012 21:55

Fleet and Notice
 
When do QR ask you to give your required notice to current company?

Is it after fleet allocation? reason been if I apply I want long haul fleet not A320 so I would like to not give any notice until I know as I would say thanks but no thanks on the 320.

Black Pudding 29th Jan 2012 06:21

Zerotohero. What you get offered in your offer letter and what you get may be 2 different things. Read the offer and it will say that at any time, then can switch your fleet allocation due to demands at the time, so if they offered you 330 or 777 and then they switch you to 320 after you get here, don't say you did not know this could happen. Its happened in the past. Some came for the 777 and got switched to the 330 or 320. Some came for the 320 and got switched to the 330. Best thing for you to do is if its going to be a big deal, don't except the job and let someone else take your place that would be happy to come here and fly and of the aircraft Qatar Airways operate.


Well done to all those who have been offered start dates and look forward to seeing you here in Doha.


FMSPEED get your application in as its true.

victor75 29th Jan 2012 09:34

Hi guys!

I finaly got the good news after 3months of waiting!! I applied in jully 2011, interview SO 3rd November and the good news 24th January!
I'm now waiting for contracts etc..
Could you tell me if I have to answer to the good news email or not?
What will be the next step?

Thanks all !+++

gdukkoq 29th Jan 2012 10:05

Finally. Victor great. I'm still waiting for contract 4 months next week. You don't have to reply, but doesn't hurt to answer.


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