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Afinehelmet 8th Aug 2010 11:46

During Ramadan, the working hours in the Middle East region tend to be reduced. Therefore I'd expect a slow down of some sorts in the area of recruitment/HR.

bonernow 8th Aug 2010 11:53

I completed the QR assessment recently and was advised that the time period I could expect to wait prior to any notification would be two to three weeks. Given the number of pilots being assessed I wouldn't be surprised if that period was slightly longer. The recruitment team are flat out as well as flying the line. Those guys really are working hard.

inmigrante 15th Aug 2010 18:38

Second change
 
Hi colleaguesˇ I tryed , a year ago , in QR , I passed the Interview and the ATPL quiz, then went to the Sim ( A330 ) , however , I receivethe NO , Thanks E MAIL , Perhaps somebody may give an advise , The question Is :
anybody has been called for a second change , after been rejected once?
Thanks a lot
Inmigrante:ok:

Hamid_27 18th Aug 2010 17:24

QR A320 orders vs Bombardier's CSeries twinjet
 
Hi all,

Does anyone have any information regarding QR A320 orders being replaced by Bombardier's CSeries Twinjet?


who will fly them? any CSeries Rated Pilots out there? :hmm:


thanks,

Hamid_27

leadingedge12 19th Aug 2010 01:57

I don't think you'll find a C-series rated blok out there anywhere!!

Capt Krunch 19th Aug 2010 03:55

Hamid_27

the Bombardier's C-Series twinjets are not a replacement for the A320's. They are for the Qatar Executive fleet.

Qatar Airways Confirms Order For Bombardier Jets | Qatar Airways Press Release

leadingedge12

Qatar Airways has no problem giving pilots type ratings, thats been proven time and time again. We give B777, A330 and A320 type ratings out on a daily basis and have been for years on some fleets, there would be no difference in the Bombardier fleet.


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leadingedge12 19th Aug 2010 15:54

My point is there are no type rated guys in the C-Series yet Krunch because there are no C-Series jets in the air!

inmigrante 20th Aug 2010 20:18

1986
 
Any answer to 1986 , scond change ?
Thanks

Hamid_27 21st Aug 2010 19:25

Capt Krunch
 
hey Capt Krunch,

You are correct in saying that qatar has purchased Bombardier jets for its Exceutive fleet - the Global 5000. ( which is not the CSeries)

But i was talking about this artical which says that if Airbus does not have the Re-engined more fuel efficient A320 ready, they with replace the orders with Bombardier CSeries jet.
the upgraded a320 is expected to be offered with CFM International's Leap-X advanced turbofan and a version of Pratt & Whitney's GTF geared turbofan.

Qatar Airways studies re-engined A320 alongside CSeries

any more information on this?

Thanks

Hamid_27:ok:

Capt Krunch 22nd Aug 2010 09:42

Hamid_27

sorry mate, I cant comment on something I really know nothing about.. Interesting article though.



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169west 22nd Aug 2010 19:29

interview pass rate!
 
... anybody knows what is the current pass rate at the interview? thanks

bigbear71 22nd Aug 2010 21:41

School fees
 
Splendid Cruiser

Could somebody with kids in school in Doha, please let me know what the current allowance is?


Hi, I have two kids in Reception, 4 years old, British School and i pay 57000 QAR per year......

50000 QAR is the total allowance.

watchthewarrior 23rd Aug 2010 13:45

Current recruitment needs
 
Good afternoon all,

I applied to Qatar Airways around 2 months ago as a First Officer. I am currently flying the B757 and have some 2500hrs, of which the majority is on type.
I am yet to receive a response from the recruitment department. Having read back in this thread, people are waiting a considerable length of time longer than I presently have and I understand the recruitment department are working very hard.
I wonder though if anyone is in a position to comment on the length of time one can expect to hear anything?
Is recruitment ongoing for both the B777 and the A320 or just the latter? I understand that there are deliveries taking place of B777 nearly once a month, but are guys already in the pipeline for these aircraft or is more recruitment planned?

Thank you all very much in advance for your comments.

777LR Driver 23rd Aug 2010 14:15

I think the recruitment office is snowed under right now with guys trying to get into QR. I don't know how often they are running selections days either so can't help there - Could be 2 months could be 6 - when you see the way the place works you'll know why it took so long, not saying thats a bad thing but you'll see you've got to remember the very aggressive expansion with a less than perfect infrastructure. ;)

The 777's are coming at one a month, there have been an additional 2 LR's added to the fleet number so at present it stands at 21 (mix of 200LR's, 300's and 200F's) with a further 2 LR's, 1 Freighter and 12 more 773's to come.

The 777 course are currently running at 3 per month I'd heard that there is a big backlog of guys waiting for courses (i'm one of them) so I'd assume its coming to an end - by the time i'm on-line it'll have taken 6 months from joining to being signed off I should think. :\

It seems the 777 guys could end up doing a type rating course wherever there is space, be it London, Dubai, Singapore or in Doha. Also line training is slow as the 777 doesn't do many short haul flights to get sectors up only Dubai, Jeddah, Cairo (sometimes) etc.

Can't really say on the scarebus fleet - majority of guys I know are going on the the A330, but have airbus backgrounds.

If your 757 rated you might be one of the last to join to 777 fleet can't say for definate though it seems to be a bit of a lottery. :hmm:

Good Luck! :ok:

Brie 24th Aug 2010 08:10

Hello there in the sandpit;)

Small question, how is life there as a single? I'm thinking to give it a throw joining QR since i'm fed up with biz flying (and the poor money). I don't have kids or wife, so nothing to take care off. What are you doing if you have days off?

thx

bonernow 24th Aug 2010 12:29

I'm current on the 767 and have been offered A320!! Are QR about to have an exodus from the A320 or is a large A320 order due soon? It seems a strange option offering me the A320. I've never flown any Airbus and it's a good few years since I flew a narrow body!

Any thoughts on the thinking behind this offer?

Capt Krunch 24th Aug 2010 12:53

bonernow

Qatar Airways will place you where then need you and where they want you at the time of hire. Fortunately / unfortunately this means the A320 fleet for you.

Thats just the way it is here, they have enough money floating around not to worry about training cost.


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Captain Partzee 24th Aug 2010 13:01

bonernow
 
"I'm current on the 767 and have been offered A320!! Are QR about to have an exodus from the A320 or is a large A320 order due soon?"
None of them. This is Qatar Airways. :E



All the best!

Iver 24th Aug 2010 14:42

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watchthewarrior 24th Aug 2010 17:08

777LR Driver,
Thank you very much for your comments

Bonernow,
Were you interviewing for a Capt role or FO?

Iver 25th Aug 2010 01:59

Bonernow,

I would tell them that, given your 767 experience, you want 777 or no deal. Simple as that. I have heard the A320 fleet is a nightmare (just read the last 300 pages of this thread). You have flown heavy Boeings and you want to fly heavy Boeings - or no deal. Hold firm and tell them you will wait for the next Boeing class or just pass... Other carriers in the region are hiring.

Sounds like if you want to fly the 787 at QR down the line, you need to be a Boeing driver.

Brie 25th Aug 2010 13:41

hi

what happens IF you fail the typerating? I've read that in Qatar your exit visa will be blocked if you have debts. So if you have failed the rating, do have some debts owed to QR?

Capt Krunch 25th Aug 2010 16:18

Brie
it is true i some cases if you have outstanding debt in Qatar you will NOT be able to leave the country until all debts are settled. Before leaving the airline you must do what is called a clearance, one of which is making sure there is no outstanding credit card debt and / or loans. You will not be able to leave with outstanding debt in Qatar unless proper arrangements have been made, in most cases that means full payment.

as far as failing a type rating here. well, it has happened but it's not so common. The airline will give you another go at it.


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Brie 25th Aug 2010 17:03

Capt crunch,

Thank you for your clear answer.

Can you also tell me how life is over there as a single? I'm not married or engaged but I really have no idea how it is living in a compound. Are there some pubs (alcohol allowed??)where you can meet people? Or any other leisure facilities?

thx

Iver 25th Aug 2010 22:57

Flying the 787 Video from Boeing - Check it out...
 
Seriously Bonernow, with your background you should hold out for the Boeing. If you only had Airbus time, you would have less ground to stand on - but in this case you have heavy Boeing time. I would not fly the A320 with your background - better to pass and get a job flying the 777 with EK or EY instead if you can get those jobs... I've heard that EK looks favorably on heavy Boeing time and QR is aware of that...

Plus, if you want to fly the 787, I hear you would have a greater likelihood of flying it if you were flying on the Boeing side of QR. That is what I have heard (could be right or wrong) - regardless, flying the 777 would be just as great if you had to sit on that aircraft. With your experience, you should get a slot on the Boeing side.

So, why would you want to fly the 787? Looks like the initial cadre of ANA pilots for the 787 really like the airplane. Check out this recent 787 video from Boeing:

Boeing Feature Story:'It's Fantastic'

xjpilot 29th Aug 2010 15:38

A320 training
 
Hello. I was just wondering if anyone had any idea how the A320 training was going. Are they backed up? Is it all done in house? If not then where else? Estimate from start to line check at the current moment. Thanks a lot for any information.

PT6Driver 30th Aug 2010 10:45

Can anyone provide uptodate figures for the cost of living. running a car etc.
What is the utility alowance?
Understand 2 kids would cost around 57K. What about costs for both a single person and a family of 4 ( wife 2 kids)?
Has anyone worked for QR and left the family back home? is it doable?

BIGBAD 30th Aug 2010 11:00

cost of living approx

1$ = 3.65 QR (fixed exchange rate)

renting a hire car 1900 QR per month
case of beer (24 bottles) 140 QR
can of coke 1.50 QR
internet (1Mb) 200 QR per month
petrol less than 1QR per ltr

food - again, whatever you want to spend, it's about the same as the uk, some stuff a little cheaper. If you buy UK/US/European imported food it is x2/x3 more than the original price

clothes - bit more expensive
electonics - same or more expensive
DVD's - very expensive
books - english more expensive

buying a 4x4 anything from 60,000QR for a 2 yr old to a huge new one 160,000 (ie nissan armada) - its whatever you want to spend

I think a car loan are about the same cost as the uk ?!
insurance (if you own a car) is 5% of the value per year
plates i think you have to pay a couple of hundred QR every year for the plates or registration



if you live in holiday villa apartments, you do not get a utility allowance, but dont have any bills. You get the allowance if anywhere else, but i dont know what it is, or if it covers elec/water etc

BIGBAD 30th Aug 2010 11:06

Commuting - to UK / Scotland, would be impossible with the 3 days max off in a row rule, but this has now been changed.

Depends by what you mean commuting, if you mean going home once a month for 6/7 days then yes, if you mean going home every time you have time off the i would say not.

flight time approx 7 hrs to LHR (plus what ever for connection to scotland - this will be made harder by the change to terminal 4 - so you have to either change to get to term 1 or 5 for bmi/ba connection)

stby ticket 750 QR for economy 1400 QR for business ( you need to get the business ticket in case economy full, and seats in business, if you only have an economy they will not up grade you ). 4 flights a day from LHR, 1 LGW , 1 MAN.

plus you have to be careful how you commute, if you keep a house in the uk and commute back to it, even if you spend less 90 days a year in the uk can be stung by the taxman !

xjpilot 30th Aug 2010 22:31

A320 Training
 
Anyone have anything on this subject?


A320 training
Hello. I was just wondering if anyone had any idea how the A320 training was going. Are they backed up? Is it all done in house? If not then where else? Estimate from start to line check at the current moment. Thanks a lot for any information.

Baron buzz 31st Aug 2010 06:16

[QUOTE]plus you have to be careful how you commute, if you keep a house in the uk and commute back to it, even if you spend less 90 days a year in the uk can be stung by the taxman !
/QUOTE]

I would encourage anyone thinking of coming here to seek some tax advice. Keeping a house in the UK in isolation shouldn't be the difference between the tax man hunting you down or leaving you in peace. It will depend on a variety of factors. Basically if you have a full time, permanent, overseas based employment location, spend less than 90 days per tax year (average), and complete 1 full tax year outside of the UK then the tax man should be happy. Many people have left family, houses etc all in the UK. Seeking advice is the best course of action.

BIGBAD provides good and accurate advice. As regards staff travel, it's very, very good. You can check the chances of you getting on the flight, and also check the loads. The attitude of the staff at the airport is definately one of trying to get you on board. Staff travel is not an inconvenience like it might be at some UK airlines. If your home is near one of the UK airports QR serve, you could easily get back for a couple of days between duties - this will (should) be even easier no the 3 day off rule has been removed.

Hope this helps.

BB:ok:

BIGBAD 31st Aug 2010 10:51


...which airline do you work for :confused:
to be fair this is a guess based on the news that the 3 day off rule has been scrapped, but it shouldn't be impossible.

Even at the moment I am able to go back to the UK and get 4 local nights with 3 days off an early finish and late start either end . Not impossible at all. :ok:

Che Xindamail 31st Aug 2010 17:16

Agree that staff travel in QR is great.
It's all done online and if you purchase QR tickets you can pay by credit card and print them out at home. If you need tickets with other airlines you still have to go to staff travel office to pay and pick them up. This will take up to two hours...
After six months in the company you get First/Business Class tickets which should maximize your chances to get on, not to mention the food and service.
The reinstated days off rule would make commuting to EU possible since QR now fly almost everywhere.

777LR Driver 31st Aug 2010 20:49

Not quite right on the staff travel - you get it after 3 months service, FO's can only get business or economy, Capts get first, business or economy. :ok:

load sheet 1st Sep 2010 02:11

I have an interview to come in october, How the interview process is doing today ? Any improvement or the same JAA writen test and A-330 sim evaluation as before ? TKS

Jeffdh17 2nd Sep 2010 04:48

Question...
 
Load Sheet.

Can you advise as to how much notice you received prior to be offered an interview date? Also did you get a choice of interview dates?

Thanks,

Jeff

load sheet 3rd Sep 2010 08:33

I got 50 days notice, just right to me.
If anyone have information about the screening process today I appreciate some reply.
All the best :ok::ok:

loc22550 6th Sep 2010 08:26

Bigbad,to be more accurate: they might upgrade you to business or even first class with ID90 economy ticket even with plenty of seat avalaible in economy and without asking for anything...but off course NOT out of Doha...:=: outside station at least some of them.It happens already to me...

Half-Pint 9th Sep 2010 12:24

Time from application to interview?
 
Hi

Can anyone comment on how long it took for Qatar Airways to get back to applicants once they had submitted applications for an interview?

I meet all the F/O requirements, and it has been about six months since I sent in an application, so was wondering...

Thank you for the comments

HP

Jeffdh17 9th Sep 2010 15:29

Interview time....
 
Check your PM's HalfPint.....


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