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FL123 16th May 2012 21:39

@Cat3BNoDH
 
Yes, your point is valid....
By the way the numbers are around 140-150 for span air guys


At least not as long as the non TR DECs, FO and SFOs that are joinning at the time.
.... and which means this could take long. Its an ongoing process. Because the recruitment for them will not stop as of now. Which therefore means that we have to fit in somewhere middle between their recruitment.

Global01 16th May 2012 22:13

Spanair
 
A friend of mine lives in Doha currently with QR told me that only 50 pilots from spanair stayed the rest went back to spain, is that true ?

Some time we hear 150 some time 50 .....:confused:

RK303 16th May 2012 22:29


Also for what I've been told their recruitment department is so overwhelmed that they're unable to answer phones or send emails besides the ones that are supposed (good news or fail/offer of employment/ fleet allocation and DOJ)

There is absolutely no problem for them to answer. They always did and still doing, but in a selective way that nobody is able to explain here. Every week you’ll read here: “Hey, I’ve been interviewed 2 month ago,still nothing for me but few guys of my group already received the e-mail , what’s going on??”
We already saw special cases here (a FTSO who waited 8months before one of his friends VIP in QR helped him out. a F/O who received a fail e-mail after 7 weeks of waiting). This communication has nothing to do with the spanair guys, it worked like that before.

Cat3BNoDH 17th May 2012 09:26

RK303
 
For me the explanation is clear and stated above. Even if you did the interview on the same day there are a bunch of issues that can put one at the top of the pile and another at the bottom. Issues like being TR, available, experience and Flight Time, performance at the simulator assessment, report given by the interviewers and of course theoretical test result. So if you go to the top of the pile your process will be quicker, if you don't... I think you already know the answer to that one!
Of course there are always files that are lost, and other situations dificult to understand but those are a small minority.
And believe me that I know for own experience that it can take weeks to catch your joining coordinator on the phone or even by email.

Nice landings

Samolin 17th May 2012 13:33

I am one of the fortunate ones that had 4 - 6 weeks in between each step of the process! Joining in the first week of June and looking forward to a new advanture. I was interviewed in the first week of December for all that want to know. Fleet assignment is 320 but to change as per operational requirements.

The only questions I had, was can my family (wife and son) travel with me when I am joining QR. or do they have to wait a week or two?? We are planning to get them a visitors visa upon landing as they are part of the program.

Tinga 17th May 2012 14:21

FTSO Housing Allowance
 
Can any FTSO who has joined recently please tell me what the housing allowance amount is? Is it QAR 10,000 just like for F.O or is it less? Thanks.

Shaggy330 17th May 2012 14:55

Recieved the "Good news" letter today for DEC position. Five weeks to the date of my interview. Yeah!

Global01 17th May 2012 15:14

FTSO Housing Allowance
 
Tinga:

I think 6000 QR same as NTSO, that's what a friend told me , double check !

TwoTone-7 17th May 2012 17:50

Samolin. Of course your family can travel with you. In the event that a residence visa cannot happen in time then they will have to arrive on a visitors visa.

Allowance for FTSO is QR6000.

Tinga 17th May 2012 19:19

FTSO Housing Allowance
 
Global01 and TwoTone-7,
Thanks so much for your feedback. I appreciate it. One more question; Does the housing allowance increase from QAR 6000 to QAR 10000 as soon as you complete your 46 sectors and are promoted to F.O?

Tinga 17th May 2012 19:22

FTSO to FO
 
For those who have joined as FTSO lately, can you please advise on how long it is taking, on average to complete the 46 sectors and get promoted to FO? Thanks so much in advance.

Global01 17th May 2012 21:52

Housing allowance
 
TINGA:

Housing:

Yes, The allowance increases from 6000 to 10000 as soon as you pass the line check.

Sectors:

A friend of mine has completed his 128 sectors of the NTSO in 6 months, so if you do the math, 46 sectors wont take long .....

You still have to double check ;)

Good luck

crazy_max 17th May 2012 21:59

46 Sectors on the A320 in QR??? Hummmm....week and a half.

Shaggy330 17th May 2012 23:20

Does QR have a bidding system? If so, how does it work? Can you bid for certain places; to avoid certain places; for days off; certain departure times, etc? Any info is appreciated.

80-87 18th May 2012 00:24

HUD
 
Dont sweat it. The HUD and fancy automations is not used

Tinga 18th May 2012 03:58

FTSO Housing Allowance
 


TINGA:

Housing:

Yes, The allowance increases from 6000 to 10000 as soon as you pass the line
check.

Sectors:

A friend of mine has completed his 128 sectors of the NTSO in 6 months, so
if you do the math, 46 sectors wont take long .....


You still have to double check http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif

Good luck
Global 01,
Thanks again for your input. I really appreciate it. Sounds like one can do the 46 sectors in about 2 to 2 1/2 months. Anyone else who has gone through FTSO to FO wanna chime in on this?

TPD111 18th May 2012 22:35

Qr new bond strategy for new joiners
 
Came across this in another forum, any truth to it???

·******** The new policy Specify 2 bonds one to cover Type Rating Phase ( 91,000 QAR equivalent to 25,000 USD for 30 months ) and the second one to cover the Line Training Phase (182,000 QAR equivalent to 50,000 USD for 60 months ) *.
*
·******** The monthly salary deduction ( 3,034 QAR ) for the Type Rating Bond will start with the date of joining and for the next 30 months with zero refund.
*
·******** The monthly salary deduction ( 3,034 QAR ) for the Line Training Bond will begin after the successful final line check and for the next 30 months with 50% refund after bond period completion ( 60 months ) .
*

flyforfood1 19th May 2012 06:00

Why not just keep it on there so its not duplicated across every other QR thread. :rolleyes:

TPD111 19th May 2012 06:37

FFF1
 
Sorry pal, dont spend my life reading mulitple forums.

cccc 19th May 2012 08:45

Timeframe FTSO - FO
 
Hi all,
I think the following timeframe should be considered from FTSO to FO.
A few weeks of administration, ID, uniform, RP, courses, air law exam, ...
Maybe another 2 months type-rating. Another 6 weeks for 46 sectors on the A320.
That should be a total of about 4 - 4,5 months.
This is if all goes according planning...
Anyone who has the correct info, please correct me.
Cheers,
Daniel

enthusiast 19th May 2012 16:29

waiting for call
 
I got a candidate reference number 2 weeks ago. How long should I wait for being shorlisted?? or When could I have a phone call from HR recruitment for verification? built time in A320 well above QR requirement. no accident, no even incident. Can anyone know of current recruitment status of QR? shed light on this please.

subria023 19th May 2012 17:00

Well, I am also A320 rated and meet all minimum requirements but still no call. Applied 3 months ago. You maybe more lucky than I am !

Shaggy330 19th May 2012 23:52

Does QR have a bidding system? If so, how does it work? Can you bid for certain places; to avoid certain places; for days off; certain departure times, etc? Any info is appreciated.

flyforfood1 20th May 2012 02:59

Yes you can bid for all of the above and more. Depends how busy your fleet is as to what you get. Usually you'll get something though. It all done through 'lido' bidding system.

Iver 20th May 2012 03:13

TPD111,

It is quite possible that the training bond strategy could be referring to CTC cadet pilots and a specific training scheme and not for experienced pilots - although there would be a bond for non-typed pilots for their specific aircraft. Still awaiting clarification.

RK303 20th May 2012 09:25


"They just have to start up a cadet pilot programme for all nationalities"

The programme covers 50 % of the cost which is very good but only for Arab nationalities as far as i know....
Since the recent announcements about this, can somebody confirm this information? Where the school is located and which type of licences they deliver, JAA or local ones?Arab nationalities only?Open to Icao licences holders?
Thanks for any information concerning the requirements.

in my last airline 20th May 2012 09:48

Hi,
Just to add my story. 2 months application to interview. Tech exam, interview and 787 sim all on same day. Simple LHR takeoff, headings and altitudes. Join a bearing from NDB, join the 010 radial from LON. Approach to ga with cloud base 900'. Downwind APU fire, memory drills by PM after you call for them. Vectors ILS 27R land, evacuation. Didn't actually complete drill, just asking for checklist was enough. Handshake and back to hotel for beer!
4 weeks later. Passed selection. Another 4-6 weeks for offer, start date and fleet. Then between 1-6 months depending on your notice period.
That's the story so far. Looking forward to a new adventure!
Finding schools will be the biggest problem I think. Anyone care to recommend any British curriculum or IB schools that are good and have space?
Cheers.

duskie 20th May 2012 11:29

QR interview on the 9th May 2012
 
Cloudbasher 60 I was in the set of 8 you mentioned in your post. I totally agree with you in relation to the level of hospitality whilst in Doha an on board the Qatar flights. You must have been in the first setof four guys in the sim as I was with a group of three much later in the evening and we had two 777 captains one as a captainand one running the box. Truly looking forward to a wide body but With a lot of Captains on the A320 moving to wide body aircrafts there is a strong possibility that theywill be looking for replacement Captains.
it was a beautiful experience overall and I wish you the very best as we all anticipate the good news.

Black Pudding 20th May 2012 16:22

Cat3BNoDH


performance at the simulator assessment, report given by the interviewers and of course theoretical test result.
No truth in this

You either pass or fail

captain.weird 20th May 2012 19:27

@in my last airline
 

Hi,
Just to add my story. 2 months application to interview. Tech exam, interview and 787 sim all on same day. Simple LHR takeoff, headings and altitudes. Join a bearing from NDB, join the 010 radial from LON. Approach to ga with cloud base 900'. Downwind APU fire, memory drills by PM after you call for them. Vectors ILS 27R land, evacuation. Didn't actually complete drill, just asking for checklist was enough. Handshake and back to hotel for beer!
4 weeks later. Passed selection. Another 4-6 weeks for offer, start date and fleet. Then between 1-6 months depending on your notice period.
That's the story so far. Looking forward to a new adventure!
Finding schools will be the biggest problem I think. Anyone care to recommend any British curriculum or IB schools that are good and have space?
Cheers.
Which fleet are you assigned on?? What is your experience?

Cat3BNoDH 20th May 2012 20:33

Black Pudding
 
Believe me when I say that I know what I'm talking about.
These were almost exactly the words the examiner used when explaining the selection procedure during and after the assessment. If you fail, you fail! When you pass, there are ranks according to your performance during the assessment, qualifications, and availability!!
Or do you have a diferent explanation for the Spainair guys that are joinning much earlier than others that were assessed much before??? Or for those guys that already have fleet allocation and joining date and were assessed 3 months later than others still wating for the job offer??
Unlike you I don't believe that luck or being in the right place at the right time is the major factor just because someone had the kindness of explaining that to me.
And when I mention "someone" I mean someone inside the recruitment department.

Cheers

upwhereIbelong 21st May 2012 09:11

Finally
 
Oh happy Day...
Today my Offer of Employment Letter arrived via email.

Am now very happy and cheerful :p

I hope all in my Situation will also get their letters.

Will be FO on A320 ,joining Date open .

Awesome.....:D

UP

upwhereIbelong 21st May 2012 09:13

quick Question
 
is this now the time to resign your previous Job ?

Gregling 21st May 2012 09:19

@upwhereIbelong
 
Happy for you mate !

From what we can see in this thread, even if you get the offer of employment letter, you can still wait few weeks before getting to Doha. My point of view is : explore your contract, sign it and send it back to them, and then wait until they give you a DOJ. Just my point of view ;):)

casablanca 21st May 2012 09:23

I would probably not resign until you have some idea of when you will start.
It also depends on how much notice you need to give. I know some countries require 3 months while others only 2 weeks.

Global01 21st May 2012 10:13

Fleet Allocation
 
Quick Question:

For a NTSO, If you have the privilege to choose your airplane, Which one is the best overall ?

For me, i would choose the A330 but since QR announced recently that they'll convert them to CARGO OPS then...........not really sure.

Thank you !

FL123 21st May 2012 10:21

@upwhereibelong
 
congrats mate... :D:D:D

by the way a quick question--- the contract mentioned to you has it changed (deduction of type rating and line training)??? or is it the same one as earlier...

thanks,
FL123

FL123 21st May 2012 10:48

@global01
 
First of all I don't think we will be given any fleet choice (thinking in a practical way). And even if we are getting then why do you want to go for A330?? go with the A320. You will learn a lot in that. Personally i do love the A330. But, from learning point of view (as an NTSO)-- I would go for A320. Short flights, things happening quickly.....
But just be ready to work hard... :E:E:E:E:}:}

Global01 21st May 2012 11:00

FL123
 
That's true, But you read about 320, sounds like a disaster ... For me i take whatever they offer..

But choosing between 320, 330, 777 and maybe 787, tough decision !!

Who said we don't have a choice.............;)

FL123 21st May 2012 11:28

@global01
 

That's true, But you read about 320, sounds like a disaster ... For me i take whatever they offer..
i can't comment on the A320 disaster thing. I know there is a lot of work load on that fleet. U R RITE!!! But me being an NTSO- personally I wouldn't complain about it. Because there are lots of Senior Captains/FO's on that fleet and if they are not given any rest then who am I (NTSO) to ask for... !!!!!!
Indeed, we will take what we are offered IA!!!! :ok:


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