FO (First Officer) SFO (Senior First Officer) for FTSO salary is 10,000QR plus housing (6,000QR) plus flight allowances once you start flying.
Basically you can enjoy being an expat only once you are line checked. FO salary is pretty good, 33,700QR including housing, plus 90QR per flight hours. |
FO and SFO
Sorry, I should have asked my question more clearly.
I have the experience for DEFO, my question is would I start at FO or SFO pay? If I would start at FO, what do you have to do to move onto the SFO pay scale? Thanks! |
I think after 3 years
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And how is the new bond for FTSO??
I was at the interview last week and they said it just changed :ugh:, can anybody explain how it is going to work please? |
And how is the new bond for FTSO?? I was at the interview last week and they said it just changed :ugh:, can anybody explain how it is going to work please? |
Maybe it was a rumor, but someone here stated a new double bond system including the type rating and a part of the line training deducted from your salary.This has to be confirmed and we're waiting for.
If it’s true ,needless to say that for SO’s already having an initial training loan to pay off, you’ll be financially dead for the next 5-7 years after joining. But this is the market law and there is not too much options out there to reach your goal if you can handle it. |
But this is the market law and there is not too much options out there to reach your goal if you can handle it. Guys who decide it's ok to pay for type ratings never cease to amaze me. |
Cargo Allowance
Me and my family are eligible for upto 350kg of cargo but I am sure we have gone in excess by 70kg.
Does anyone know how much is the employee excess cost per kg for Qatar Cargo would be??? Also, when we are joining we are given ecomony class tickets with upgrade to business class... so do we get 23kg for checked bags or is it 30kg?? Thx for your replies! Safe landings |
check airman
I agree.Personally I'll not be able to handle it but there is always people who'll go with it
because of no other choices available and financially healthy. If they were not so many applicants in the holding pool i doubt this could be happened. |
The new bond
Well, of course we asked, I just thought here would be someone form QR who could copy & paste the official information from the airline... That is why I asked here...
Anyway, what they told us at the briefing before the interview was that there is a new bond since some days now, it is only for FTSO (probably same for SOs), and it consist of a 1000€ (more or less) payment during 30 months, recovering only the last 10 months, and the bond time is 5 years instead of 3. They explained that the company values the type rating in 25000$ and the line training in another 25000$ which should be paid if leaving before the bond time (subtracting what you already paid). Sorry for asking about it without giving you this info, I really thought and still think that there must be someone here who can manage to provide us with the exact details of this bond... |
old bond, new bond, and newest bond
Hi all,
In the OM Part A it says NTSO are bonded for 5 years and pay $833 per month. But at the interview they said we pay $1000 per month for 36 months only, and after 5 years we get $36k back in a lump sum. But if you leave before 5 years you pay the whole $50k. Will try to get the latest details on this "new" bond soon, if it even exists... |
excuse me do you have an idea about the cost life in doha
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Delayed
Hi all,
The fact that a lot of Spaniar guys jumped in front of the queue, QR sending mails out in order to find out what the notice periods are, ... With how much time do you think everything has been delayed for the guys that received the pass mail in March (as I did), or later/earlier in order to receive the offer, or joining date for that matter? I am FTSO. Cheers, cccc |
Honestly, I think we are in for a seriouse really long wait/delay, and what kills is that we don`t even know what is going on, nore able to get hold of someone that knows something. After all the excitment I had for the Interview, somehow, I lost hope...
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Anyone knows if they are still calling people for interviews or they freeze recruitment for a while? I have applied through an agent,its been more than 2 months and still no invitation for screening.i was told by the agent that recruitment stops for a while because they have hired the people they need for now.
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I think the agent is right. Dont put all your eggs in 1 basket i would say.
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Word on the street is that QR have the 700 they need for this year so i'd expect recruitment to slow. If you think the wait is long now - some have been here in Doha 7 months plus and still haven't started training!!
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@flyforfood1
7 months ? What are they doing while waiting ? Enjoying the sun... ?
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hi
so ,may I ask very straight forward ,i have signed the offer of employment ,wait on doj? any worries ?
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Well the first month is generally taken up by MORE admin stuff (if you think the jointing process requires a lot, wait until you get here), ground courses and getting your RP and medical sorted, once thats over your just waiting for sim slots, depends on what type your coming from, but if its a type swap then expect a loooong wait and to be sent somewhere else in the world to do your rating, Mumbai, Cairo, Sweden, Singapore, Toulouse etc.
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Not true, they are, They look at the hrs. and your experience along with age.
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Word on the street is that QR have the 700 they need for this year so i'd expect recruitment to slow. Let say Qatar Airways have interviewed every week for the first 6 months this year. ( I know its not the end of June yet, but might have been invited pilots until then.) That's 26 weeks times 5 days of interviews. It give a total of 130 assesment days. Lets use an average of 8 candidates per day. Thats a total of 1040 pilots been interviewed. If 75% of them where sucessful, all 8 of us passed on my interview day, then we get 780 plus the 18 CTC cadets and plus 150 Spanair pilots to a grand total of 948. This figure does not include last years candidates. I would be surprised if any body gets called for a interview in the 2nd half of this year. Unless you are type rated or a Qatari or a CTC tw@t you will be very very lucky to get a invite to Doha this year. Over. Disclaimer: I have known to be wrong in the past.:E |
So if i understand well, im 35 and 2000 on corporate jet, but im too old for them???
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This is the hard part waiting it out, I will happen,
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Ok, if QR hired his +/- 1000 pilots this year, does all those pilots landed in Doha?
If not, what is approximatively the pourcentage of this number representing the pilots currently waiting at home for further informations from QR(yes/no email, contract, doj etc) . Basically, does all the people who’ve been interviewed until now and haven’t received the negative e-mail included in this number? |
age VS experience
@inner : dont worry man i dont think they look at (age VS experience) im just like you : 35 y.o ( f.o ) and have about 2000 hrs ( corporate ) and got invited ,interviewd , passed , offered a320 fleet and now just waiting for the (date of join - email) .
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Work Visa
Hi guys,
Just a quick question. After receiving your letter of employment and later on your DOJ. How long will it take before issuing a work visa by Qatari immigration. I was told about 3 weeks but it's been longer now. Any worries to have about the delay, (denial....). Just for records, have no history of criminal records. I'm worried cos I already resigned from my company, given my DOJ is in mid July. Tried to call but no answer. Thanks guys and good luck to all of you, (waiting or applying). Flyer79 |
Work Visa
Flyer 79,
I know how you must feel. Scary to give up everything and be at the mercy of Qatari Immigration right? I have been advised by my contact @ HR that the work visa could take from 3 weeks (shortest) to six weeks (longest). As long as you are anywhere in between those two time periods, you should be ok. It also does depend on what county you are coming from. Some countries require more time than others to process. Hope this helps. I am scheduled to start around the same time as you are. What fleet are you on? |
flyer 79
According to my joining coordinator the work visa is now taking more than one month.
Even for my case (I'm from one of the 33 countries with an visa emission agreement with Qatar). So you should be receiving or own in a week or two. Nice landings |
after signing contract
Hi guys need help
I submitted scanned copy of my passport and also the contract with my DOJ . within a few hours i got an email saying that they confirmed my email. The list of documents they give am I suppose to do that now or do I wait for my visa and conformation on my DOJ. Also ive seen the post on here where I can get my FAA ATP license validated through a link that I can send to my joining coordinator but I cant seem to find it . can anyone help thanks |
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Calm down, you will get your ticket and your visa the day before you are supposed to travel, which is usually one or two days before your joining date. You will then start the processs for a permenant visa once you get to Qatar, and that will take around 3 weeks.
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@ luly jubly thanks mate
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Not sure how they're doing number wise against target. If, as posted above, 1050ish people have been interviewed then they will probably still not have more than half their requirement filled. I thought the pass rate through the procedure was somewhat less than than 50%. You can do the sums. If recruits are hanging around prior to training it's likely to be down to a lack of training slots, 6 months from joining to final line check was a good average for guys joining about 2 years ago.
I was also contacted very recently about by an agency looking for type rated 777 F/Os for a middle eastern carrier. It wasn't EK nor EY. Hmmmmmm. :oh: Spanner |
Visa
Hi Tinga,
Thanks for your reply and all the others. Indeed not easy to leave everything (an airline job) for just a promise of employment. Once I leave my company, there's no point of return, they made it clear. That's why I'm worried but trying to stay positive because i don't see any reason why my visa shouldn't be approved. I am rostered to sart July the 19th, on A320. Probably, (hopefully) we meet there. Again thanks Dude and good luck to you and all the lads waiting. Flyer79 |
I got the letter on may 21 too, waiting for DOJ .. B777 FO
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hi guys,
I've been reading this discussion for some months now and I thank all of those who gave me answers to my questions. 3000TT flying since 1990 (ex-fighter) full ATPL In order to give you also some feedback, here is my personal timeline : - online registration : OCT 2011 - invitation for selection : end of jan 2012 - selection : feb 2012 - good news : march 2012 - employment letter : april 2012 still waiting for DOJ ... a friend of mine received his employement letter at the same time (april). However his DOJ is 24th of june. I think due to the fact that he is type rated (A320). The spanair guys (more than 100) have been recruited recently and seem to give a huge workload to the HR dept. They all come in front of the queue. Makes sense, they are fully type rated and well experienced, whereas many of us are not type rated (I guess). When I did my selection, many guys around me were unemployed or about to become so (I am...). Having more than 100 experienced A320 pilots (DEC included of course), is a very good opportunity for QR. They can't miss it. And that's why (I think) there is now some delays. Being unemployed with 3 kids, I just hope that they will call me in the newt few months. Life is tough. I have learnt to be patient with QR ... If some of you guys are in my case (emp letter april, waiting for DOJ), I'll appreciate to be in touch with you => PM me pls all the best |
Letter of employment
Hi Supersonic75,
Sorry for late eply but I am currently flying my last couple of hours with my airline. In fact today is my last day. Hope I won't regret it, if things don't speed up with QA. Just to answer your question: Applied: October 2011 Invited: Mid Feb. 2012 Good news: March 2012 Letter of Employment: April 2012 DOJ: April the 30th 2012 for DOJ in July. Now still waiting for Visa and the rest. Hope that helps. Take care and happy landings. Flyer 79 |
@flyer79 : thanks for reply , i wouldnt worry if i were you , as other guys told you the visa could take more time than expected but you will get it at the end if you have a clean record at your home country , but its always better to try again and call your joining coordinator just to make sure everything is ok so far , try calling about 8:00 am qatar local time ( GMT+3 ) it always works for me when i call at that time :) good luck
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Thanx for advice mate.
I heard and spoke with some guys on this forum saying better not call or email them, as you bother them. So I follow this policy and let things as they are. From time to time I come on this forum to exchange ideas and have others opinion and thanx to all for your help. Happy landings Flyer79 |
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