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Scott_T 19th Nov 2013 13:33

Yeah 737 rated and current, but with about 940-950 hours on type and 2000 total, I am just hoping there might be some leniency regarding this, as Qatar is a good opportunity to get onto a wide body etc

south coast 19th Nov 2013 14:21

If current, why can't you get another 50 hours on it?

Iver 19th Nov 2013 14:32

Scott T,

I would apply and see how it goes. QR is notoriously BAD in terms of their recruiting/interviewing/training queue processes - but you won't know unless you apply. Tell them you expect to have 1,000 hours by a certain date and then update your application accordingly if that is possible.

I don't work there, but I would say the ME is certainly where you will find the non-BA/VS widebody opportunities going forward. The other non-EK UAE carrier might be another good bet if you are looking for a widebody seat - I believe that carrier has 41 787-900 firm orders to start with first delivery in latter 2014 or early 2015. :D

Good luck!

flying apple 19th Nov 2013 22:56

My friend told me about this opening this morning.
I'm currently in the holding pool as normal track SO but since the interview i've flown 1000+ hours on the 738 so i'm hoping i can apply for this application without doing a new interview.
Time will tell

light and variable 20th Nov 2013 06:47

No interview again; one size fits all. But you most likely have do undergo the infamous PAT up the backside if you havenīt already.

If it is the case that QR are presently hiring noTRd then your new hours figure should make their eyes sparkle. You need to make them aware.

south coast 20th Nov 2013 08:19

I don't understand why the advert is for non rated FOs but that you must be current on some other kind of Boeing with 500 hours, might as well say be rated?

What about those with more than enough TT, but no Boeing rating?

flying apple 20th Nov 2013 12:47

If the PAT test is still the adapt test they were talking about a year ago i think i'll manage it, have done the same test as selection for my flight training.
Their conclusions were wrong in the end anyway.
I did had contact with them and they would see what they could do.

flying apple 20th Nov 2013 13:06

fleet specific route maps
 
I'm quit sure I've asked before but i can't seem to find my own post again.
Around 1.5 years ago i found a website with the routes for each aircraft (330/320/319lr)
Does anyone knows if this site still exists or where i can find the routes for B777 and B787

jafarc 20th Nov 2013 15:14

classic time
 
No 737 efis time accepted ? anybody in the know ?

Boeingrestricted 20th Nov 2013 17:44

Adapt test
 
As the flying apple mentioned, this test is subjective , unprofessionally conducted, biased and the OWNER is well connected (the elderly chap).
They underwrite conduct which is not delivered , on none of the promises. To neither party! The psycho's are full of them selfs. While the 'operational' guys ARE all the opposite from the above. Since they're checking tangible properties of a candidate and are objective , once they reckognise 'talent'. Now go tell them this and let them critisize this as PRO's. Oh and btw I would tell them this in tha face. Especially the lady.

Iver 20th Nov 2013 18:22

Flying Apple,

Don't know of any fleet-specific route maps, but you can now add EDI to the 787 routes effective next Spring...

Press Release | Qatar Airways

:ok::cool:

AlexEspana 21st Nov 2013 00:46

Are they accepting 737 Classic time? It is Boeing time.

Obbie 21st Nov 2013 06:55

So is a B-27 Stratafortress, but they are not accepting that either.

Training expects you to be glass proficient before you start.

AlexEspana 21st Nov 2013 19:35

Thanks Obbie and Javadreaming!

casablanca 22nd Nov 2013 02:14

A guy in my class was Dec on 777 and had no glass experience, although he had 25 years on 74 classic.
I think they often make some exceptions, but don't know what to tell you other than try.

jerman 22nd Nov 2013 15:55

Can anyone tell me if I could be offered any other fleet than 320
I have 5000+ hrs
4500+ hrs A320
Any chance for a wide body
Thanks

B-U-S-S 22nd Nov 2013 16:06

It has happend recently, but don't expect more than the A320 not to be disappointed. Everything is about the requirement they have at the time of your joining.

jerman 22nd Nov 2013 16:53

Thanks for the reply, one of my friend did the interview same experience as me
And they offered him to start training 10 days later :-), he interviewd few weeks ago, I think QR needs 850 pilots in the next 18 months

Ref2010 24th Nov 2013 09:47

Fast track Command
 
Does QR really practice fast track command. As of what I know if one completes 18 months and achieved 5000 hrs...one will be considered
And 2000hrs wide body and total 6500hrs to get wide body command
My question is....does this really happen in practice?
Your replies would be appreciated
Rgds

casablanca 24th Nov 2013 10:45

I don't know if Qatar had a fast track command before....there was a company notice that they were starting fast track command about 2 months ago, but don't know how many people have started since then

Ref2010 24th Nov 2013 13:48

Fast track
 
I would really wanna get info on that...coz at my present company I'm expecting command in around 8 months, but I've been offered long haul with QR and heard that u would have a choice to stay on long haul and get your command as long as you meet the requirements.
If that's true...I'd rather prefer going to qr wait for another couple of years and getting my command on the big bus

jerman 24th Nov 2013 13:57

hi ref2010
which a/c r u flying currently, were u offered long haul with A320 hrs?
how long from passing the interview to date of join?
thanks

K1000 24th Nov 2013 14:06

Fast track
 
Ref2010,

This is the information on a recent road show regarding fast track command for wide body.

Min 6500 total hours AND
1. 2500 hours on QR widebody type as FO

OR

2. 1000 hours min command hours non QR type above 100 T

OR

3. Min 3000 hours on non QR type (above 100 T) as FO

Ref2010 24th Nov 2013 14:43

I fly 330. From interview until offer letter it took a month.
Extended my DOJ due to personal reasons
But my question is if it is put in practice.....about the fast track command

Flyboy41 25th Nov 2013 08:22

Anyone been to QR interview recently. Any updates on which simulators are being used for the screening?... Thanks

casablanca 25th Nov 2013 08:48

Have had 3 friends interview in the last four months....everyone has been in the A320 sim. It really depends on what is available at the time.

Ref2010 25th Nov 2013 09:56

QR Interview
 
Hi,
Sim is all raw data flying....zero automation....ils and land...no fd take off....apu fire on final approach....declare mayday and land.
Day 1 is pat....just b ur self...frankly speaking I didn't really read the booklet they send me,I recommend you read it well. They need to know ur personality and decision making skills. The key is stay calm
Day 2 is ATPL questions. 50 and u need 80% to pass
Formal interview is straight forward
Regards

K1000 25th Nov 2013 10:30

Interview
 
Any technical quizz?

Scott_T 25th Nov 2013 10:38

Any chance anyone has the number for their recruitment HR department as far as I remember there used to be a hotline....

tolosan 25th Nov 2013 12:07

@Ref2010 : sim raw data : Bird ON or OFF ?

Obbie 25th Nov 2013 13:29

"I didn't really read the booklet they sent me".....

Nice......you are really going to go far here :rolleyes:

Flyboy41 25th Nov 2013 13:29

@ Casablanca and ref2010 thanks much appreciated. Got an interview coming. I'm Boeing. Will see on the airbus goes.... :O

Ref2010 25th Nov 2013 15:56

QR Sim
 
NO BIRD.....only allowed to use PFD and fly using the Diamonds on for ur ILS.
NO ROSE ILS......JUST PURE RAW DATA ILS

B-U-S-S 25th Nov 2013 17:58

I only had ROSE ILS available... No loc/gs dev scales on PFD.

Flyingmachine01 25th Nov 2013 23:12

Day done
 
PATS Assessment completed.

It's a very relaxed day. Interview first. Behavioural. Really relaxed. Felt good.
Then the exercise. Hard work. Many screens to deal with. Try and relax.
I hardly answered all the questions.
2 modules completed and 1 is video recorded.
Then the last part. Watch your last module. And comment on how you felt. And why you did certain actions.
Hard to fly, hold speed, straight n level, answer many questions presented either side of you. And listen....
I personally not very confident in how I went. Always want to do better. Naturally.
Now it's a waiting game. :rolleyes:

hamd 26th Nov 2013 03:14

Guys any info how much time from a successful interview to getting the final letter for joining with fleet info etc?
Im current on type, intervied in OCT.

Thanks!:ok:

casablanca 26th Nov 2013 03:47

@ HAMD
I think it has been as quick as 1 week and as long as 2 years.
I would think an average of 6-10 weeks. ( most of the longer wait periods have been for second officer positions.....it is horrible to wait so long but still you hear of good news even after such time. On the bright side it is possibly better than another ME airline that kicks you out of pool after 1 year.
Good luck

Ref2010 26th Nov 2013 06:42

Did mine in October too...got my joining date on Nov. Exactly a month.
They are in need of wide body pilots
Wats ur rating on?
PS: they don't need guys on 320 for now...that's wat I heard

jerman 26th Nov 2013 08:22

hi guys im 320 rated with time on type , i've a interview date for march 2014, over 4500 hrs on 320, if they dnt need 320 guys now does that mean i could be offered assigned widebody
any info appreciated

casablanca 26th Nov 2013 08:37

@ Jerman
Just my opinion and observation, but their needs are constantly changing...by early 2014 they could be short on 320 again. There has been a rumor floating around that they would try to make the 320 the entry airplane for everyone.
I personally don't see this happening as it will probably require even more training cycles.
With that being said, I think anything is possible here, and I could see lots of movement on the 330 as the 350 and 380 start arriving


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