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aka the aviator 27th May 2012 15:47

Anybody applied in march got interview invitation yet? I applied for NTR FO and no news so far...

PepeCRK 27th May 2012 17:27

I am in the same situation as you. No news at all. I have some collegues who applicated in Dicember 2011 and were called in early May. Keep calm.

ITO 27th May 2012 17:38

Things kinda slowed down. Even here on this thread, if we compare 5 months ago, we were all tuned on interview, questions, sim assessments, advices, feedbacks on that...etc today, it all changed and we are all tuned on WAITING. I noticed also on their website that they removed second officer fast track, only FO now.

Let's keep hoping ! It's another week. I tried to call HR, no luck.

FL123 27th May 2012 18:29


I noticed also on their website that they removed second officer fast track, only FO now.
Nope its still there!!!

FL123 27th May 2012 20:30

Sorry my bad --- FTSOs removed.... You are right ITO!!
That means, they will be calling on the people who are on hold... great... :D

supersonic75 28th May 2012 05:35

A320 pilots
 
do the a320 (pilots) fly the a321 and a319 also with QR or only fly the a320 ? anybody have an idea ? they will hire me as an F.O ( a320) fleet ... thats why im asking :) thanks

ITO 28th May 2012 06:33

Yes they do fly 319/21 too.
Concerning FTSO, well they removed it from the front page, but when you click on apply now, it is still there...

TPD111 28th May 2012 13:00

Fast Track Bond
 
Fast track FO Bond confirmed!

75K, you get 25K back???

I'm out!!!!!!!

TPD111 28th May 2012 13:41

Conden
 
As posted,

Qr new bond strategy for new joiners
Came across this in another forum, any truth to it???

·******** The new policy Specify 2 bonds one to cover Type Rating Phase ( 91,000 QAR equivalent to 25,000 USD for 30 months ) and the second one to cover the Line Training Phase (182,000 QAR equivalent to 50,000 USD for 60 months ) *.
*
·******** The monthly salary deduction ( 3,034 QAR ) for the Type Rating Bond will start with the date of joining and for the next 30 months with zero refund.
*
·******** The monthly salary deduction ( 3,034 QAR ) for the Line Training Bond will begin after the successful final line check and for the next 30 months with 50% refund after bond period completion ( 60 months ) .
*

Buddy had recent interview and confirmed.

Good Luck.

FL123 28th May 2012 13:46

@TPD111
 

Fast track FO Bond confirmed!

75K, you get 25K back???

I'm out!!!!!!!
You mean to say Fast Track SO right??? Because this bond is valid only for SOs. (that is what I know)

cccc 28th May 2012 17:27

FTSO
 
Hi all,
I hope I can get some inside info on this one...
According to ppjn... the FTSO has been terminated. On the QR website, you can still apply online for this. I assume the QR is more accurate?
I received the positive e-mail for the FTSO in March... will I still get the offer, or can I forget about this? :(
Cheers,
cccc

rain dance maggie 28th May 2012 17:30

@TPD
 
The bond for FO(First Officer) is for 3 years(36 months).
The story above says something about 60 months(5 years)...
So what you say has nothing to do with FO' s but corresponds to Ab Initio/ SO's (Second officers) who are bonded with a 5 years training bond.
Please be more careful!!

FL123 28th May 2012 17:32

@cccc
 

According to ppjn... the FTSO has been terminated. On the QR website, you can still apply online for this. I assume the QR is more accurate?
If you go on the QR Global Career page you won't find the FTSO advt. But you can still apply by clicking- apply online. However, if you go to career page via your region then you can see the FTSO advt.



I received the positive e-mail for the FTSO in March... will I still get the offer, or can I forget about this?
Of-course you will be offered, IA. Just stay tuned. You are in the system and hence you will be called. But "when " is the question.

Stick35 28th May 2012 18:14

@fl123

I applied in dec but so far i never got a call for the ftso. Is this then a nogo for me?

FL123 28th May 2012 18:40

@stick35
 
I can't say the reason for you not being called. Because at that time (month of dec) their were individuals (FTSO) who had been called for the assessment. After 1st week of Feb, things got slow for SOs and people were put on hold (reason - focused on hiring Captains and FOs -- Span Air and etc). And now as you can see the advt being removed (FTSO), so i guess they are now focusing on the individuals who are on hold (that is already in their system). Just wait and see. They do need pilots!!!

Stick35 28th May 2012 18:57

Ok tx for your reply. Seems i dont have to expect to much anymore. Strange because im also fitting the fo requirements. Looks like we have to continue the search to another outfit.

Aerodmb 28th May 2012 21:32

QR Human resources emailed me asking for my last two pages of my logbook and updated medical copy, I responded with the attachments and also updated my online app with the documents. However I keep getting the email kicked back from the recruiter email address, even after changing the file size. Anyone know if this a valid email? I'm applying for TR wide-body FO position. Thanks.

Vayu 29th May 2012 02:15

Use of personal headsets is not allowed

Skyfree 29th May 2012 09:31

Type rated Captain A320 joining Program
 
Hi guys, any Type rated A320 captain who joined QR may explain the different steps after joining, ground school, simulator sessions, how long before first flight?
Thanks.

OXOGEKAS340 29th May 2012 12:22

I don't know if they need urgently pilots, or not....I only know, that they are not polite, because even after receiving the OK email, you are waiting for the offer and the fleet allocation, and they do not even allow you to ask questions, eliminating your emails, at their servers. Not a good sample from an airline of this reputation. I fed up with them, and found something much-much better.
Good luck (you need it) and tender (you need more) when dealing with those incredible guys...:ugh:

postern 29th May 2012 20:40

Another timeline.....
 
In the interests of CRM for those in the system, I found it helpful to see how long it took others to get through this painful process/waiting game

I applied in Nov 2011, it helps if you can get to a roadshow and get your name in the system and if you know someone at QR that can maybe put a word in when you have applied. (Fact of life)

Interview was 3rd week in JAN

They said it'll be 3 weeks for good news..........it was 6 weeks.

You get the email saying well done it will now be 6 weeks for a formal contract.........it was 8 weeks

(During this time I received the well done email on a 2 week basis, no idea why!)

You then get the contract , sign it,scan it, return it.

They reply the next day and say thank you and they say in 2-3 weeks time we will give you a join date........It took 6 weeks.

From application in NOV to joining will be 9 months, had I known this at the begining I would have done something else, however......it might take a lot less time, you just don't know and that is the most frustrating part of this nightmare.

For the guys I went with on the day, one had his join date 7 weeks before me, another is joining QR next week. I know others who went after me and have got through this in half the time. I also know others who still don't have a join date and went before me.

Some are type rated most are not, they are a mixture of FO's and DEC's.

We have tried to apply logic to why some people are lucky and have come up with nothing.

IT IS JUST LUCK.

Regarding the phone number for the joining coordinator........it just rang..

For those that are still waiting I never thought I would see this day....but it comes eventually.

I sincerely hope the job is worth it!!!!!

That's my experience, hope that helps, as regard to a lot of you who are SO's and fast track FO's......I have no idea what is happening for you guys.

Keep the Faith......I lost mine months ago!

casablanca 30th May 2012 01:50

Postern:
Thanks for the update,it is helpful.
Quick question, once you sign the contract, how far out was your join date?

ITO 30th May 2012 07:38

Hi, thank you very much for your post. I am approaching 5 months after interview with no news, no pass/fail email, no nothing. I managed to get the flight deck HR yesterday (miracle) on the phone. The lady said that if no email, it means that i passed and that she hopes i will be contacted soon by their joining team. Thats it. She seemed not having That much of information though. Who does then ?

It is a serious situation as this waiting game seriously plays with your daily life and plans. I just hope that something will come up at the end of the day and that all the hopes won't go in vain.

Applied for NTSO.

FL123 30th May 2012 08:06

I don't know when they will start calling us. Seriously--- its been really long :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

postern 30th May 2012 09:29

Casablanca.....join date is mid August.

upwhereIbelong 30th May 2012 17:12

just my 50 cents
 
@poster _Congrats mate ,me still wait on join date .

@Ito _-i feel what u go trough,if I arrive in doha and u still have no news I will go to he and ask.

Keep the faith,it took 4 months for me to get good news ,then 4 weeks contract . Now wait for join date

Cheers

RK303 30th May 2012 20:19

@ ITO
 
You have to find something else...otherwise this forum will keep you alert with hopes&rumors until you crash your life.

From a reliable source: They are not focusing on SO at all but on the training of the Spanair guys which is longer than expected.I thought there were some advantages for QR to hire wannabes but clearly at this time they are looking for experienced pilots plus this broken market will keep a constant flow of applicants.It may change in the futur, but don't be dependant of this. Keep searching hardly an alternate.

mamamia 31st May 2012 06:35

DEC
 
Qatar airways taking dec from a320 and emprear to b777

Shooting_Star 31st May 2012 07:23

Anyone has the number of HR Flightdeck? Please PM :sad:

Shaggy330 31st May 2012 09:02

Can some help me understand this? Two weeks ago I received the "Good News" email saying 6 weeks to fleet allocation, etc.

Today I received a request for additional details, references, etc. This seems odd to me. I thought the selection process was competed.

Any thoughts?

Gregling 31st May 2012 09:07

@Shaggy330
 
It is. But they may need more information about your licences to be able to send you the contract. Or they lost infos, it can happen when you deal with hundreds of pilots. If you had the "good news" the process is over, the next step is the contract.

Shaggy330 31st May 2012 09:20

They were looking for two professional references. Like you, I believed that the "good news" letter meant exactly that, "process over, waiting for contract". In fact, I made a few lifestyle adjustments, etc, in anticipation of that contract arriving in the next few months. Have to say, I'm really concerned right now.

Gregling 31st May 2012 09:34

From my point of view, the professionnal references are asked for "security reasons", in case they contact your reference to see if you're not "faking" anything, and to have more informations about your personnality or something. I wouldn't worry.

Shaggy330 31st May 2012 09:41

I'm not worried about the references or faking; nothing like that at all. I'm just confused that this is the sort of thing that would normally have been done prior to the "happy news" email. I just seems odd to me that it's happening AFTER that letter was sent.

Gregling 31st May 2012 09:45

I agree it should have been asked during the interview, but this is Qatar Airways, a lot of odd things happening out there :hmm:.

Stick35 31st May 2012 18:00

I think i will give up on this one. After all, there also other companies out there.
With the current climate, i think i have to wait at least 1 more year for an invitation from qr.

Cat3BNoDH 31st May 2012 18:51

shaggy
 
GOOD NEWS means that you passed the PSP (pilot selection program: theoretical test, personal interview and simulstor assessment), anything more than that. Now its time to check your documentation, references and records to send an offer of employment ( not a contract ).
I think you should be pretty happy... Other guys in the same situation as yours didn't receive any further contact from QR since the "good news" email.

Nice landings

Shaggy330 1st Jun 2012 00:02

Agreed. I think I was lead a little astray by the popular opinions that once the "Good News" letter arrived that all was complete. What you say makes perfect sense, and as you say, the additional contact should be encouraging.

ironbutt57 1st Jun 2012 12:05

Qatar airways taking dec from a320 and emprear to b777

Interesting, what were they flying prior to EMB/320??

howitzer 2nd Jun 2012 21:39

FO vs SFO
 
Forgive my ignorance, this may have been answered already somewhere.

In the payscales i've seen they indicate FO and SFO. Is the FO scale for those who are joining as fast track SO's and the SFO is for people who join as DEFOs?

Thanks.


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