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EK Jumeirah villas
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Recently attended the HR-tour that EK does for potential new-hires. I was expecting to see the Silicon Oasis for a villa but they took us to the Jumeirah area. We were all quite disappointed with what we saw. The villa was quite dated and definately needed a touch-up before anyone moves in. No balcony nor any terrace for the Barbie and I was hoping to bring my Weber down...
Didn´t seem very children/wife friendly as it seems to lack any community facilities like pool, cafees, gym etc, either which is a big thing for us.
Anyway, could anyone living there comment on the villas and the area in general?
Thanks!
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Recently attended the HR-tour that EK does for potential new-hires. I was expecting to see the Silicon Oasis for a villa but they took us to the Jumeirah area. We were all quite disappointed with what we saw. The villa was quite dated and definately needed a touch-up before anyone moves in. No balcony nor any terrace for the Barbie and I was hoping to bring my Weber down...
Didn´t seem very children/wife friendly as it seems to lack any community facilities like pool, cafees, gym etc, either which is a big thing for us.
Anyway, could anyone living there comment on the villas and the area in general?
Thanks!
/L.
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Possibly the same place I was shown on interview. Huge five bed villa with no outdoor areas?
However, to be fair - it's in the minority.
I live in Jumeirah and although the villas are about 10 years old they're fairly modern. The build quality is better here than the villas I viewed at the new silicon development although the furnishings aren't as luxurious.
As the old saying goes it's all about Location, Location, Location and we're 5 minutes walk from the beach, schools and cafes/shops whilst still in a quiet area... so we're very happy.
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However, to be fair - it's in the minority.
I live in Jumeirah and although the villas are about 10 years old they're fairly modern. The build quality is better here than the villas I viewed at the new silicon development although the furnishings aren't as luxurious.
As the old saying goes it's all about Location, Location, Location and we're 5 minutes walk from the beach, schools and cafes/shops whilst still in a quiet area... so we're very happy.
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Funny you should mention EK housing..
there is a new development outside of Dubai that EK is about to obtain some of the villas. We already have quite a few EK pilots living here and couldn't be happier. They moved here by choice.. and here's the difference in letting EK put you here vs choosing to move here yourself.
100k cash in your pocket if you choose your own housing allowance for captains
80k for FO's
If EK puts you here, you don't get the difference.
Rent for a beautiful 4 bed villa is no more than 80k for EK pilots.
These villas are located the same difference it would take to get from JBR/Jumeirah to DXB. It is a development that is brand new, new villas, swimming pool, tennis courts, playground etc.. and for those who know DXB, they are the same villas built in Arabian Ranches but half the rental cost. Electricity is between 23 and 25 fils per KW. Internet is great. Schools could be/ aren't so much an issue. Sharjah English does have bus transportation to the development. And the bus company is very very good. Just ask other EK pilots or ATC guys who are already living here.
Is it next to the beach ? no but only 10 min away. Kite surfing all day
Is it next to Mall of the Emirates ? no
Is it within walking distance to Spinney's no
Is it next to or within walking distance to all other amenities your used to in close proximity of 5 minutes ? no.. but if you weren't willing to travel to save and make no less than 80k a year more ? Why did you come here to begin with ?
It is however, very close to Carrefour, Spinney's, 2 malls, Barraccuda, and the UAQ's best kept secret. UAQ Marina. where there is so much to offer at such a bargain where everyone gets along and has a great time.
You know how to contact me. If not, ask any happy EK capt who is now my neighbor or send a PM.
100k cash in your pocket if you choose your own housing allowance for captains
80k for FO's
If EK puts you here, you don't get the difference.
Rent for a beautiful 4 bed villa is no more than 80k for EK pilots.
These villas are located the same difference it would take to get from JBR/Jumeirah to DXB. It is a development that is brand new, new villas, swimming pool, tennis courts, playground etc.. and for those who know DXB, they are the same villas built in Arabian Ranches but half the rental cost. Electricity is between 23 and 25 fils per KW. Internet is great. Schools could be/ aren't so much an issue. Sharjah English does have bus transportation to the development. And the bus company is very very good. Just ask other EK pilots or ATC guys who are already living here.
Is it next to the beach ? no but only 10 min away. Kite surfing all day
Is it next to Mall of the Emirates ? no
Is it within walking distance to Spinney's no
Is it next to or within walking distance to all other amenities your used to in close proximity of 5 minutes ? no.. but if you weren't willing to travel to save and make no less than 80k a year more ? Why did you come here to begin with ?
It is however, very close to Carrefour, Spinney's, 2 malls, Barraccuda, and the UAQ's best kept secret. UAQ Marina. where there is so much to offer at such a bargain where everyone gets along and has a great time.
You know how to contact me. If not, ask any happy EK capt who is now my neighbor or send a PM.
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Don't do it.... many have been lured by the almighty dollar over the years and pocket the savings. circa 2007-8
I haven't seen it but anything out in Sharjah or any other ghetto is not what most people would consider desirable. The traffic is horrendous out there, and unless you are a family seriously in need of some cash, or are super tight, forget it. If your single you will shoot yourself. Most wives would lose their minds out there very quickly. The landscape is very third world and depressing. Sorry about the harsh response, but thats the way i see it... anything in Oasis, closer to Dubai, Jumeirah, the villa, falcon city, etc. If you want any longevity in this place, I would pick anything much closer to Dubai and all the amenities of the city, beach clubs, social scene etc.
I haven't seen it but anything out in Sharjah or any other ghetto is not what most people would consider desirable. The traffic is horrendous out there, and unless you are a family seriously in need of some cash, or are super tight, forget it. If your single you will shoot yourself. Most wives would lose their minds out there very quickly. The landscape is very third world and depressing. Sorry about the harsh response, but thats the way i see it... anything in Oasis, closer to Dubai, Jumeirah, the villa, falcon city, etc. If you want any longevity in this place, I would pick anything much closer to Dubai and all the amenities of the city, beach clubs, social scene etc.
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Ex.. just being realistic. the message is only for those who may/most likely will wind up out here. If EK is going to put pilots out here, why not do it yourself and get the difference in housing allowance ? All I can offer to your reply is that pilots coming on board should OPT OUT FOR THEIR OWN HOUSING! Because they may not wind up with having the choice to live here. And I can assure you, its not a real estate ploy, if it were, why would I bother taking the time to post this ? If EK takes everything avail, then my job was done. I didn't have to take the time to post anything.
Saltair, it is not Sharjah, but you brought up very good points and not. You are very correct it is NOT what single guys would be looking for. So .. anyone who is single, please ignore the post. I agree with you. I don't recommend living here if you're single and want to be in close proximity to clubs, parks, nightlife and if you choose, hookers. As for the wives, the wives living here are happy. However, that comes down to what they all prefer. Some families want to save the money. It all comes down to what your looking for. Saving 100k a year in housing could afford a nice boat with the opportunity to live in a nice villa such as Arabian Ranches. You want city living or country living ?
Please remember the reason for the post. It's not about marketing the development but rather EK guys making money from the difference in housing assignment vs allowance to move here. While it is nice and I would recommend it for the right person, the post was to advise you that there is a chance you could wind up here under EK's housing anyway. If I was on here to market properties, I would 1. Market properties I have in Dubai that I would be paid a hell of alot more commission with a target market of investors from all over the world which is where I make the majority of my money. And 2. Pay to advertise on here at the cost of my agency that pays for it.
Saltair, it is not Sharjah, but you brought up very good points and not. You are very correct it is NOT what single guys would be looking for. So .. anyone who is single, please ignore the post. I agree with you. I don't recommend living here if you're single and want to be in close proximity to clubs, parks, nightlife and if you choose, hookers. As for the wives, the wives living here are happy. However, that comes down to what they all prefer. Some families want to save the money. It all comes down to what your looking for. Saving 100k a year in housing could afford a nice boat with the opportunity to live in a nice villa such as Arabian Ranches. You want city living or country living ?
Please remember the reason for the post. It's not about marketing the development but rather EK guys making money from the difference in housing assignment vs allowance to move here. While it is nice and I would recommend it for the right person, the post was to advise you that there is a chance you could wind up here under EK's housing anyway. If I was on here to market properties, I would 1. Market properties I have in Dubai that I would be paid a hell of alot more commission with a target market of investors from all over the world which is where I make the majority of my money. And 2. Pay to advertise on here at the cost of my agency that pays for it.
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I have no grudge to bear with you, but to be fair it DOES look like a typical real estate spiel.
Well, actually there isn't as EK wants it's pilots spending money in Dubai - hence why they have signed a contract for 500 villas next to the Meydan racecourse. It's not exactly on the beach-front but it IS in Dubai, only 15 minutes from the airport and certainly less hassle than trying to negotiate Emirates Road through Sharjah at rush hour in your own car.
*Let's not forget that EK don't provide transport if you live outside Dubai's boundary*.
Some pilots may be happy to live on the edge of Ras Al Khaimah (much more laid back of course) but it's best not to mislead new joiners without the full facts.
gulfnews : Meydan City set to host Emirates gated community in three years
I have no grudge to bear with you, but to be fair it DOES look like a typical real estate spiel.
there is a chance you could wind up here under EK's housing anyway
*Let's not forget that EK don't provide transport if you live outside Dubai's boundary*.
Some pilots may be happy to live on the edge of Ras Al Khaimah (much more laid back of course) but it's best not to mislead new joiners without the full facts.
gulfnews : Meydan City set to host Emirates gated community in three years
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Just call SPW what she is: A Real Estate Agent trying to poach customers. Others do it with little ads at the black board at spinneys but she chose to troll pprune.
Remember, when you come to Dubai everybody is only after your best: Your money. SPW included.
Just be aware of this and choose wisely how and where to invest your money. Just don't come back here in two years and whine how [insert failed investment scheme] has stolen your money.
Oh and just to make this clear, I have nothing against living in UAQ, Ajman or RAK. I'm sure it's lovely. It's just that fly-by-night-working-out-of-the-trunk-of-their-SLK-pilots-wife-real-estate-agents that irk me.
Remember, when you come to Dubai everybody is only after your best: Your money. SPW included.
Just be aware of this and choose wisely how and where to invest your money. Just don't come back here in two years and whine how [insert failed investment scheme] has stolen your money.
Oh and just to make this clear, I have nothing against living in UAQ, Ajman or RAK. I'm sure it's lovely. It's just that fly-by-night-working-out-of-the-trunk-of-their-SLK-pilots-wife-real-estate-agents that irk me.
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Hi Cat,
No worries, I can promise you its not a spiel as we have plenty of business without having to go on here for it. But it was confirmed that EK has been meeting with the developer who is about to default on owner's who have not made final payment since purchasing 2 years ago. Honestly, when I first heard about it, my concern is that it would cut out any chance of me having the opportunity to sell/lease properties that are not occupied via owner or rental so if the confirmation that I was given is not true, then all stays the same and I do here what I've been doing for months. It was just that after discussions with current EK residents and others coming on board , it would be in the interest of potential EK residents that they wind up here on their own rather than EK paid residency. True, there is no transportation from here set up yet. Key word yet, but I don't know any EK crew member from either the flight deck or cabin who can pocket that much of a difference and not be willing to co-op with other crew, hire a driver or drive themselves. Even airbus guys LOL j/k. Actually there are a couple living here already. Avoid 311, On 611, its a 35 minute drive. From Jebel Ali , JBR its the same amount of time and some are happy to give up that time spent in traffic for a straight shot. When it comes down to it, I'm the DH of a pilot who, like the rest, are happy their husbands have jobs here and want to make the best of it while we live away from our families in other countries. So i'm not here just trying to make money, I just wanted to share a chance for newcomers to have the choice to move here and save, versus moving here and not be able to pocket the rest. If I do infact meet someone who has been located here via EK housing, I will let you guys know.
No worries, I can promise you its not a spiel as we have plenty of business without having to go on here for it. But it was confirmed that EK has been meeting with the developer who is about to default on owner's who have not made final payment since purchasing 2 years ago. Honestly, when I first heard about it, my concern is that it would cut out any chance of me having the opportunity to sell/lease properties that are not occupied via owner or rental so if the confirmation that I was given is not true, then all stays the same and I do here what I've been doing for months. It was just that after discussions with current EK residents and others coming on board , it would be in the interest of potential EK residents that they wind up here on their own rather than EK paid residency. True, there is no transportation from here set up yet. Key word yet, but I don't know any EK crew member from either the flight deck or cabin who can pocket that much of a difference and not be willing to co-op with other crew, hire a driver or drive themselves. Even airbus guys LOL j/k. Actually there are a couple living here already. Avoid 311, On 611, its a 35 minute drive. From Jebel Ali , JBR its the same amount of time and some are happy to give up that time spent in traffic for a straight shot. When it comes down to it, I'm the DH of a pilot who, like the rest, are happy their husbands have jobs here and want to make the best of it while we live away from our families in other countries. So i'm not here just trying to make money, I just wanted to share a chance for newcomers to have the choice to move here and save, versus moving here and not be able to pocket the rest. If I do infact meet someone who has been located here via EK housing, I will let you guys know.
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First.. If i'm out to make money.. making a small commission from renting a property at 75k a year is hardly breaking the bank. And my post on here wasn't about that. It was actually to respond about EK housing and why not post about a development that word has it, EK is going to put pilots here ? The advantage to renting here yourself vs EK doing it as I said was to pocket the difference.
Second, Choose how to invest and spend your money wisely ? Your money or EK's money ? If your saving 100k a year in housing by renting from me vs letting EK place you, and spending 4k for agency commission you are hardly out of pocket. Do the math numb nuts.
Third, Get it right. I drive an SL.. not an SLK. And I'm HARDLY a fly by night agent who works out of a trunk. I own a company in Al Ain and work for a very reputable company in Dubai and am a licensed real estate agent in the US as well. I'm here to work because I don't sit on my ass living off of my husband's income. I work because I have bills just like you do, I have children in college who I will work 7 days a week to make sure they graduate. I give back to the community I live in. I have been on Pprune for 3 years not to troll, but out of my love of aviation, to support my husband, to learn about living in the UAE and have respectively receive advice, learned enough to give it and been dealt with alot of bull**** including nasty comments from others for what I've expressed on here. But I've never, until tonight.. read such a nasty post from anyone as you have sent my way tonight. And I sure as hell didn't deserve this one. And I know I shouldn't let you get to me, but it really sickens me to see that you would remotely think this about me. I've never shed a tear about any post and I've always been able to dish it right back til yours. So.. without further adeu.. and I hope you read this before it's thrown out, GO **** YOURSELF
Second, Choose how to invest and spend your money wisely ? Your money or EK's money ? If your saving 100k a year in housing by renting from me vs letting EK place you, and spending 4k for agency commission you are hardly out of pocket. Do the math numb nuts.
Third, Get it right. I drive an SL.. not an SLK. And I'm HARDLY a fly by night agent who works out of a trunk. I own a company in Al Ain and work for a very reputable company in Dubai and am a licensed real estate agent in the US as well. I'm here to work because I don't sit on my ass living off of my husband's income. I work because I have bills just like you do, I have children in college who I will work 7 days a week to make sure they graduate. I give back to the community I live in. I have been on Pprune for 3 years not to troll, but out of my love of aviation, to support my husband, to learn about living in the UAE and have respectively receive advice, learned enough to give it and been dealt with alot of bull**** including nasty comments from others for what I've expressed on here. But I've never, until tonight.. read such a nasty post from anyone as you have sent my way tonight. And I sure as hell didn't deserve this one. And I know I shouldn't let you get to me, but it really sickens me to see that you would remotely think this about me. I've never shed a tear about any post and I've always been able to dish it right back til yours. So.. without further adeu.. and I hope you read this before it's thrown out, GO **** YOURSELF
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BTW Not so Innocent.. you tried this similar attack on me nearly a year ago with the same post. Feb 28th to be exact. Not sure your beef with a pilots wife or real estate agent or both from your past. But don't take it out on me. Like I told you then, I'm not a failed " couldn't pass the test so I came here" non licensed agent, nor am I a Jumeirah Jane with nothing better to do. Keep it real though and while I don't want or need your respect or approval, no need for the useless attempt or attack of insults.
PS. just to clarify your assumptions, the only items you will find in the trunk of my car are the bodies of those who pissed me off. I've got an office. Feel free to come on by. Beotch.
PS. just to clarify your assumptions, the only items you will find in the trunk of my car are the bodies of those who pissed me off. I've got an office. Feel free to come on by. Beotch.
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Just to be clear folks. Be very careful of taking the allowance and going out on your own if you have a family. One of the great benefits is the comfort and lack of stress with having EK pay for all your housing headaches. There is enough to worry about in this place... years ago, people were squeezed by the rising market and some were paying big out of pocket money, cutting back on A/C and water consumption etc. DEWA bills can rise very quickly here and the last thing you want is to stress about your housing situation.
If you do move out to one of SASSY's locales, what happens if you hate it and want to move back to Dubai with your family? All of the sudden, your allowance is not enough for a 4 bedroom villa with all the bills to cover, and your 100k in savings is long gone.
I know of a single captain who lives in Discovery gardens, and heard of one that lives in International ghetto city....probably saves 80% of the allowance. They can have it and save all they want..... with NO life. To each their own i guess.
Lospilotos...For a new family I would highly recommend taking the company accommodation and give yourself time to settle in. The Jumeriah area is one the best available and worth it. Paint it up and get EK to make some updates in the villa for you. If it's that bad, ask for another option.... Good luck
If you do move out to one of SASSY's locales, what happens if you hate it and want to move back to Dubai with your family? All of the sudden, your allowance is not enough for a 4 bedroom villa with all the bills to cover, and your 100k in savings is long gone.
I know of a single captain who lives in Discovery gardens, and heard of one that lives in International ghetto city....probably saves 80% of the allowance. They can have it and save all they want..... with NO life. To each their own i guess.
Lospilotos...For a new family I would highly recommend taking the company accommodation and give yourself time to settle in. The Jumeriah area is one the best available and worth it. Paint it up and get EK to make some updates in the villa for you. If it's that bad, ask for another option.... Good luck
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Sorry SPW don't know how to PM don't read this website much but have a Villa in the a fore mentioned location for rent. Is your REstate Co listing them ?
If so can you let me know.
If so can you let me know.
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So.. without further adeu.. and I hope you read this before it's thrown out, GO **** YOURSELF
And no, this forum is not for advertising your business.
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Lospilotos,
I rarely reply on these forums but feel that I need to in this case.
Do not, whatever you do, be taken in by the real estate advertising masquerading as posts by SPW. Whilst she is, I’m sure, an honorable and decent (despite evidence to the contrary in her recent posts) person her advice is fatally flawed. She has no real knowledge of EK, has only been here for 3 years and has a vested interest in you believing her advice.
Do not trust anyone who tells you what EK are going to do next week. It’s just not the way EK operate and I would bet a large sum that they will never accommodate outside Dubai.
Undoubtedly UAQ/RAK are very pleasant but they are most definitely not for everyone. Take the company accommodation for at least a year, assess the market , decide where you would like to live and what lifestyle suits you and then if you are sure go out and buy. You won’t miss out on a bargain as the market is basically stagnant at the moment.
Bottom line, do not commit yourself or family to a lifestyle and commute that you may regret.
I rarely reply on these forums but feel that I need to in this case.
Do not, whatever you do, be taken in by the real estate advertising masquerading as posts by SPW. Whilst she is, I’m sure, an honorable and decent (despite evidence to the contrary in her recent posts) person her advice is fatally flawed. She has no real knowledge of EK, has only been here for 3 years and has a vested interest in you believing her advice.
Do not trust anyone who tells you what EK are going to do next week. It’s just not the way EK operate and I would bet a large sum that they will never accommodate outside Dubai.
Undoubtedly UAQ/RAK are very pleasant but they are most definitely not for everyone. Take the company accommodation for at least a year, assess the market , decide where you would like to live and what lifestyle suits you and then if you are sure go out and buy. You won’t miss out on a bargain as the market is basically stagnant at the moment.
Bottom line, do not commit yourself or family to a lifestyle and commute that you may regret.
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Yet another issue living outside Dubai is company transport. I'm not sure if EK will pick you up outside Dubai, and even if they will, the traffic can be gridlock in some places like Sharjah and UMM. Be very careful about taking the allowance with dollar signs in your eyes. The stress, isolation and hassle can break relationships. I agree with yoyo, take the company acc and settle into the city for a year or two.
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Thanks guys for the tips and warnings. Yeah, I´m defo going to stick with the company acc. Just wanted to have some more insights into the Jumeirah area as it was not really what I was expecting.