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Old 20th Apr 2008, 16:48
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The EK FO's obviously dodged a bullet...What a pleasure it would be to enjoy Mr. Fork's company on a 16hr flight


Reason #47 not to hire DEC's...
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Old 20th Apr 2008, 17:12
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Willing to make a small statistic I would say 50% unhappy and 50% happy but trying to get out... mhhh ..for me that's 100% uhappy... sad but true!
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Old 20th Apr 2008, 17:14
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DEC's

Fork,

From a DEC in the bar in NYC and I quote

"Most F/O's fly better than me and Most know the books better than me, but I'm not paid to read the books. I'm paid to make a decision"


Now you may understand the problem with DEC's at emirates.

Some are great but most just think they are great.

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Old 20th Apr 2008, 19:35
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To whom it may concern

Hi Guys:

For the one's of you going to the EK interview, just letting you know I just did mine about 4 days ago and the brief of Azamat69 16 MAR 2008/page 69 is absolutely bang on!! Be prepared to get your butt in the sim on the first day right after the welcome brief and after you have surrendered your logbooks. The whole assessment I found honest and straight forward. I had the A310 sim. Very very pitch sensitive!! the rest as briefed by Azamat69

Good Luck!!
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Old 20th Apr 2008, 19:56
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Fork (Your jovial '2 Ronnies sketch' handle belies your miserable personna by the way!),

Out of interest, if you are so wonderfully happy at your silly little airline, why the hell were you even contemplating a job elsewhere??

For your benefit (as you clearly aren't intelligent enough to figure it out yourself) and 411A's (as he's bound to 'chip in' any time now with some crap or other), I will attempt to explain why some F/O's are having to wait OVER 4 years for command..............

They have been shafted by 1. The DEC 'program' and B. The delay of the A380. Neither of which is a legitimate excuse to keep perfectly 'Command Able' Airbus guys out of the LHS. In short, it has nothing to do with 'Ability' (in 99% of cases anyway) they just haven't been given the bloody chance yet purely due to the fact they're on the 'Bus... Put em on the B777 simple!

I hope this helps, you sad little git.

BTW As, you have quite obviously failed the selection process (you don't expect us to believe you didn't did you?), why the hell are you still hanging around on the ME forum trying to wind people up? Surely you have better things to do..., like preparing an imaginary sim detail on your 'Wide Body' A320 etc?
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Old 21st Apr 2008, 05:29
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upmarket...as in the market is up...good for pilots...no crisis... jobs available
...not as in EK is upmarket.... that is for the individual to determine..
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Old 21st Apr 2008, 05:59
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Let me put another fork, knive or whatever in....

Apart from a very few DEC's (at the beggining), the majority are nice guys, competent enough operators, but of a lower standard than the average incumbent FO. I'd like to think they are all "safe" in their role, but they weren't the best choice. It was a marriage of convenience and don't kid yourself that it was anything else. Nothing personal, just stating the facts.

If you are a DEC, either old/new/about to join, then disprove the theory and do the spade work. Read your manuals like the FO's do, study your line training sectors, ask for advice (scary) and demonstrate some humility. You will be suprised at what effect it has. Goodness knows, you may even learn something.

I too have heard the line "Don't need to know that, the FO will have the answers" . No wonder so few DEC's have earnt true respect at Emirates.

Yes, one day I too may take a DEC job. But I will be working my fanny off to make sure I earn (not demand) respect.
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Old 21st Apr 2008, 06:27
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HAPPY?

Happy with what? After 14 years service to have TC's deteriorate rapidly. To have new clowns in management every now and again telling us how lucky we are? Whilst they are here for a short period of time until they move on. I refer to TCAS and Ed. Please do me a favor.

I agree that if you are not flying anything flash at the moment and you want to improve your chances in life by flying a big new shiny jet. Then by all means apply. But that's where it ends.

Unless of course you believe Captain Americas take on EK. He is now the official Marvel Comics Character for Emirates. He has however only been here for 5 minutes compared to many, many ahead of him.

The Airline will not honor your contract, trust me!

Dubai is a fun place. But then again, so is Disney! Fantasy and make believe.

Take advantage if you can, make some money from the property game, not from you EK salary that's for sure. And certainly not from the poor performing provident fund. I have made more money in the property game than the Prov Fund after so many years. And fully invested in Equities by the way.

The list goes on. Why am I still here? Simple. I use the leverage of my 14 years service here to it's maximum. A means to an end!!

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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 10:35
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hi

hi thanks for the info. i would gratefulll if you could forward me info. on what are the typical tech qu. are

thanks
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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 11:14
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Don't worry about the tech part of the compass test.

It is a 6th part of the total test. The questions are not very hard. You really don't have to worry about it. ATPL basic things.
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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 15:10
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I love it - so do the majority! Period!
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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 15:24
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Jock

About you don't put words in other people's mouth. Stick to your own impressions.

Unless... you represent the company, then I understand your agenda.

Period.
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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 15:32
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Asmat69 brief on the interview is spot on. If you can find questions from the Emirates interview book, read Ace the interview, you will do fine. Pretty basic questions for the tech questions.
I was there last week, everything went as described.
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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 17:28
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... well Jock - that doesn't count for me ...
as i DON'T like it here - anymore - and am actively lookin' /like so many of my colleagues/ actively for a way out of this crappy place!

.. just waitin' what our Sheikhy-Boy - in his rather expensive posh english cashmere suit - in his wisdom & pride of the company achievements will announce in a couple days Keep Discoverin'

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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 17:59
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And remember if you bring your kids to dubai you are exposing them to a country with the highest rate of lung disease per capita of young people in the worldfact
 
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Glad that my posts helped guys..good luck with the whole process..and please update if you find that there is something different from my post and we can keep helping each other and hopefully help each other get in..love to hate that A310 sim though!!! i havent trimmed a plane for more than 10years!!! It was scary plus the fact that the dude in the right seat decided that during my single engine go around, when i called for flaps one he decided to go to flaps zero!!!! The last thing i remember was "Sink Sink!!!" hahaha...then the sim dude saying fly the elevator...yes i would if i had the trim in the correct spot!!!!

enjoy guys/gals
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 06:29
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Greenhopper sorry mate that is COMPLETE CRAP!!
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 07:46
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Maybe the question should read, is anyone really happy at ANY airline these days? Too much uncertainty in all sectors of the aviation world. Soaring oil prices, LCCs, bankruptcies....the beat goes on.

However, check back in a week after the profit share/bonus/extra pocket change amount is announced, and then you might get a better feel about how happy everyone here is.

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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 09:08
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Seems these things get too emotional at times. Most often you can break it down to a few issues:

Dubai: some like it some don;t and some just can't live away from home and so become unhappy.

EK: same, some like it and some dont. Some hate the skeds some like them. I think, in general, most guys like the aircraft, the routes and the people they fly with.

Pay: as above. The difference here is that some may like EK but decide that the opportunities are better elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that. As far as I am concerned I look at my life and family from many angles - including the business side. We are a business unit and we do what is best for us financially.

I enjoy everything about working here but I have great concerns about pay, inflation, exchange rates and conditions. ALL of these are issues EK has to deal with. Some will argue that inflation and exchange rates are not EK issues but I beg to differ. The pay package is linked to the lifestyle that one can live. If inflation and FEX rates are affecting that then the company can choose to deal with or lose pilots and recruits. These affect their business in every area as they affect my 'business'.

In short, I think most are happy here (despite some rantings here on Pprune)but it is tenuous - pay (after inflation, FEX) is a HUGE isue for EVERYONE as are the scheduling conditions.

How Emirates deals with these in the next year will be critical to how happy people are here.
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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 17:39
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Anyone going to the circus on May 20-22th?
PM me please for a couple of drinks before displaying our benevolent attitudes.

Gonna have a great time...
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