Saudia
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 257
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From: ME
Yes 200 Malaysians might have joined up initially.
But they haven't spoilt much. Mostly because less than 50% are left, with many more waiting eagerly in line to leave. On both the Bus n Boeing fleets.
They are literally leaving in droves. Mostly due to 'impending situations and circumstances' here in SV.
In fact these very pilots might be the reason that SAUDIA is in the spot it is in today.
A complete mis calculation.
Obviously, all of the Malays who have left or frozen their contracts are already on the Payrolls of other SE carriers.
It's a comedy of sorts. With very serious implications. For both the 'other' expat pilots. And for SAUDIA.
But they haven't spoilt much. Mostly because less than 50% are left, with many more waiting eagerly in line to leave. On both the Bus n Boeing fleets.
They are literally leaving in droves. Mostly due to 'impending situations and circumstances' here in SV.
In fact these very pilots might be the reason that SAUDIA is in the spot it is in today.
A complete mis calculation.
Obviously, all of the Malays who have left or frozen their contracts are already on the Payrolls of other SE carriers.
It's a comedy of sorts. With very serious implications. For both the 'other' expat pilots. And for SAUDIA.
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 227
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From: On a Wing!
To begin with, EVERYBODY will be treated with mis trust and caution. Once bitten twice shy.
More importantly simply due to mis calculations, all expats would suffer.
Aparently the housing had secured a compound for the Malaysians exclusively while accommodating other expats in SV city and hotels. That will now have repercussions. Because now they will barely fill the new compound to 50 % capacity. Thus all others will be asked to move to the new compound.
The list goes on and on...
More importantly simply due to mis calculations, all expats would suffer.
Aparently the housing had secured a compound for the Malaysians exclusively while accommodating other expats in SV city and hotels. That will now have repercussions. Because now they will barely fill the new compound to 50 % capacity. Thus all others will be asked to move to the new compound.
The list goes on and on...
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 5,552
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From: ME
Company will reimburse your fees as you need a exit visa to fly, but you will have to pay for your families exit visas. In theory the cost of a 12 month exit visa has changed from 1000 SAR to 2300 SAR.
If you are actually allowed to keep your kids outside for 12 months, this would actually be cheaper than having to fly them back every 6 months to renew their visas, so in a round about way, the new system might actually be cheaper for some!
If you are actually allowed to keep your kids outside for 12 months, this would actually be cheaper than having to fly them back every 6 months to renew their visas, so in a round about way, the new system might actually be cheaper for some!
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 17
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From: JED
Company will reimburse your fees as you need a exit visa to fly, but you will have to pay for your families exit visas. In theory the cost of a 12 month exit visa has changed from 1000 SAR to 2300 SAR.
If you are actually allowed to keep your kids outside for 12 months, this would actually be cheaper than having to fly them back every 6 months to renew their visas, so in a round about way, the new system might actually be cheaper for some!
If you are actually allowed to keep your kids outside for 12 months, this would actually be cheaper than having to fly them back every 6 months to renew their visas, so in a round about way, the new system might actually be cheaper for some!
Visa renewal (holiday) run to KSA is covered by yearly domicile ticket (except airport taxes).
On the other hand now you will be able to issue exit/re-entry visa for longer period until iqama validity date so visa/iqama run can be once in two years.
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 166
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From: Tropopause FL350
Really? Cost of 12 month single exit/re-entry visa was 200 sr, from now 12 month single exit-reentry visa will cost 1200 sr. So extra 1000 sr per year/kid staying outside.
Visa renewal (holiday) run to KSA is covered by yearly domicile ticket (except airport taxes).
On the other hand now you will be able to issue exit/re-entry visa for longer period until iqama validity date so visa/iqama run can be once in two years.
Visa renewal (holiday) run to KSA is covered by yearly domicile ticket (except airport taxes).
On the other hand now you will be able to issue exit/re-entry visa for longer period until iqama validity date so visa/iqama run can be once in two years.
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 17
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From: JED
the cost of the multiple exit/reentry visa from the 2nd of October is based on the origin of the passport . Schengen passport have a fee of only 250 SAR for 2 years, US passports is 400 SAR for 5 years . UK passports is 510 for 6 months or 1950 SAR for 24. All the other countries the rates are 3000 SAR/6 months , 5000/1 year and 8000 for 2 years
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 352
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From: Middle East
Is there a reference for BKK or is it just rumour? An announcement like that, days after the death of the Thai King could be pretty insulting to the Thai's.
Last I read, KSA was only sending someone to attend a conference being held in Thailand, no where near the establishment of full diplomatic relations.
Last I read, KSA was only sending someone to attend a conference being held in Thailand, no where near the establishment of full diplomatic relations.
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 62
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From: Switzerland
Non Payment of Contract Completion Bonus.
I see many are concerned about the extra costs as a result of visa fee increases. However, none of you seem too bothered about the NON payment of the contract completion bonus which, if not paid, would be a much greater cost/loss than then the visa fee increases.
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 166
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From: Tropopause FL350
Gamy it is true that the company delays the completion bonus.sometimes more than 7 months But only in cases where there is a contract renewal. In cases with complete contract termination and no renewal ,bonus is being given immediately so you can have your bank clearance letter.
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: Switzerland
Alloha, what you say concerning the "Contract Completion" bonus being paid when you are leaving Saudia at the normal end of your contract term was, until recently, correct. It was part of and included in your final settlement, provided you completed the full term of your contract. If you left before your contract completion date, or where terminated before, then the likely hood would be that you would not get the "contract completion bonus" for the obvious reason i.e. you would not have completed your contract term.
Until recently, the "Contract Completion" bonus was being paid to pilots who renewed their contracts. In these cases, it was common for the bonus payment to be delayed for a few months. Seven months delay would have been excessive and unusual.
However, what is happening recently is different. Pilots who are renewing their contracts are being told by both GM Flying and VP Flying that the "Contract Completion" is not going to be paid "until further notice" and "subject to the approval of Saudia HR Department". In these most recent of circumstances it is unlikely that the "Contract Completion" bonus will be paid even to pilots who are leaving at the normal end of their contracts.
Other changes affecting renumeration of expat pilots are likely to follow as part of the KSA government's budget reduction and cost reduction programs.
Until recently, the "Contract Completion" bonus was being paid to pilots who renewed their contracts. In these cases, it was common for the bonus payment to be delayed for a few months. Seven months delay would have been excessive and unusual.
However, what is happening recently is different. Pilots who are renewing their contracts are being told by both GM Flying and VP Flying that the "Contract Completion" is not going to be paid "until further notice" and "subject to the approval of Saudia HR Department". In these most recent of circumstances it is unlikely that the "Contract Completion" bonus will be paid even to pilots who are leaving at the normal end of their contracts.
Other changes affecting renumeration of expat pilots are likely to follow as part of the KSA government's budget reduction and cost reduction programs.
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 257
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From: ME
Many people will definitely leave. Without any doubt. And many are already actively looking around. The picture will be clear in coming few months. Untill now the only development is comlpletion of contract delay. Let's see the next salary.
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 62
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From: Switzerland
The supposed reason being "bandied about" by GM Flying & VP Flying for the "delay" or NON payment of the Contract Completon Bonus is that it is "according to a recent Royal Decree". Well, at least that is what is being relayed is the reason being given by SV HR Department.
However I find it very hard to believe, that if correct, the "decree" can be retrospectively applied to contractual agreements already signed and in existence. It will need someone, or a group, to challenge Saudia in the Saudi Labour Court.
However I find it very hard to believe, that if correct, the "decree" can be retrospectively applied to contractual agreements already signed and in existence. It will need someone, or a group, to challenge Saudia in the Saudi Labour Court.
