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Old 30th Nov 2009, 10:16
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I believe that 'uglyraed' (& sequels + his sister) is 'skybeds', 'staff' & most likely 'Rescuer' as well. This person adds nothing to any meaningful conversation on any subject in any universe. May I suggest ignoring any input from this source?
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Old 30th Nov 2009, 11:57
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How many drivers are leaving GF in the next 3 months??
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Old 30th Nov 2009, 12:29
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Assuming the commission of buying new aircraft is 1%.
How much is the cost of one new regional jet?
Multiply 1% to the price of the plane time the numbers of aircraft GF want to order.
Look like someone's bank account is gonna get bigger.

No wonder, improve productivity and efficiency, cost control, and internal fraud protection are not part of the turnaround plan.
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Old 30th Nov 2009, 13:59
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Danger Gulf Air 'to strengthen European presence

Gulf Air is to maintain a commitment to Europe following a new strategy designed to make the carrier a sustainable and profitable business by 2012.
Under the new strategy, the fleet composition will focus primarily on narrow-body aircraft and regional jets.
This will include a number of long-range narrow-body aircraft which will connect the airline’s Bahrain hub to key financial centres in both Europe and Asia.
Chief commercial officer Willy Boulter said: “Questions have been raised as to Gulf Air’s commitment to Europe under the new strategy.
“Gulf Air fully intends to continue flying to all our strategic European points in London, Frankfurt, Paris, Istanbul, Athens and Larnaca.”
He revealed that the carrier plans to strengthen its presence in Europe “in the not too distant future” by “leveraging Bahrain’s position as the financial hub of the Gulf and connecting it with leading financial centres in Europe”.
Boulter added: “Expansion into Europe becomes more viable, under the new strategy, not less.”
He continued: “Our priority is to provide our customers with a reliable, convenient, professional and value driven service".
“Our new-look international network will reflect our customers’ needs and enable us to consolidate and expand our existing position as the carrier with the largest number of Middle East connections through our efficient Bahrain Airport hub.”

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Old 30th Nov 2009, 14:38
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dundem.. Why you are such worried from our inputs!!
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Old 30th Nov 2009, 16:38
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End Of Gulfair 2012

0-1 You must be Majari or one of the thief.

we did not born yesterday to lie as.

How do you know we will make money?

We have been hear this strory for so many years.

if you will tell me we are going to closed down 2012 then I will belive you
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Old 30th Nov 2009, 16:46
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you could be right about ugly raed but I am not going to put him on my ignore list this time or at least not for now. ignore list should done for racists like brass plate.I know the new sky bed some time writes craps but at least he is focused on gulf air issues not on personl attacks like others.
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 04:03
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Is the airline really going to end the F class?
the E 170 are good but it doesn't seem to be well planned. The airline usually transports the F1 team and the big equipments who are coming to Bahrain. Doesn't the airline has some contract with DHL for some cargo deal?
usually that used to maximize the profits even when the plane used to go in a under load.

I really think that the airline should reconsider in keeping the F and the J class in the airline.if one of them are discarded by the airline, it wouldn't take a fool to tell you all that this is a cheap airline.
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 06:15
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to tell The true brandtzag how can we make profit?

If we oparate Iraq with 9 Pax coming back 12 pax?
Iraq sector should only oparate during certain month a year which is high season.

The problem is we dont study just open distination and closed other.

Why we closed milan? and now we need to open again.
Just because QR oparate there and we copy from them?

QR have good connection.
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 07:11
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@Staff; You are an idiot, Gulf Air is making gold on Iraq, I doubt you work for GF otherwise you would know that the belly of the aircrafts going there is ALWAYS FULL with cargo! - GF does not care if it's 1 passenger or million as long as the belly is full, the route is a gold maker

Also to add, You haven't I assume seen the reservations on BAH-NJF right? All flights are SOLD OUT weeks in advance!
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 09:24
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Radar Contact.. If threre is cargo to Iraq, why they dont send cargo aircrafts!!

Do you know how much cargo we used to have from PVG.. You said GF dont bother about pax load if there is cargo.. so what is the reason to close PVG!!

You prove my point that Iraq destinations should be open in seasons like now which is " Muharam " is coming.

What about BGW & EBL?
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Cargo revenues from war areas are considerably higher.
15 Tons from PVG= 1 Ton from BGW
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For the last time,How many drivers are leaving or considering leaving?
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 11:06
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Brandzag.. It seems you are the one who have incredible plan with your financial numbers.. Is Gulf Air current situation because of your miss calculation?!

Maybe you can give us plan to save 1160 employees jobs.
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It seems a strang plan(although Mr I Al Hamer first proposed it way back pre-Hogan era). Especially when most low cost carriers look at operating costs v. profits & go for 320s or 737s. Maybe, Mr Majli has pulled different figures out from-you-know-where in order to convince the board that the embraer is the way to go(commission please!!!!!!!!). I guess he will also create destinations for us to operate to where Air Arabia don't fly to since they pretty much have the regional market cornered. Another bad plan from yet anther self proclaimed aviation genius to help bring GF down to even lower depths. Hold your noses guys, this drop is gonna be fast, furious & bloody.
GF R.I.P.
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 15:30
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I hope the guys at the top know what they're doing, cause the last thing we'd like to see is the demise of Gulf Air.
On a different note, i have a strong feeling that staff is ugly raed cause it is the same attitude, grammar,mistakes and worthless comments....

I have to search again for the ignore button
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 15:52
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to tell The true brandtzag how can we make profit?

If we oparate Iraq with 9 Pax coming back 12 pax?
Iraq sector should only oparate during certain month a year which is high season.

The problem is we dont study just open distination and closed other.

Why we closed milan? and now we need to open again.
Just because QR oparate there and we copy from them?

QR have good connection.
but GF made alot of money from the Iraqi rout.im not sure about the milan thing but i completely disagree with you on the iraq statement....GF doesn't have any cargo aircraft. and i dont this the airline would in this century.because of those damn regional aircraft that they are getting.hopefully the airline would scrap that ridiculous plan and stick with the order of the 330s (which they were lucky to get)
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 18:52
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Danger

Unfortunately, the only way to make a short-haul network profitable is to cut costs dramatically. Short-haul, full-service operators in Europe have taken the brunt of the downturn and I'm not sure that the Government of Bahrain fully realizes the implications of going down the short-haul road. All those high-paying management, pilot and cabin crew jobs are going to have to go. I suspect, therefore, that the hurt is only just beginning for Gulf Air.

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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 11:19
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IMHO
Where is the 'differentiation' necessary for survival? If Gf concedes the top end (as it has) has been lost to likes of QR, EK and EY, then why not go for all-economy? If it's making it's money in cargo, why not revive the Gulf Traveler model (which was profitable, as I understand it). Certainly it would work with MNL etc. where there is absolutely no one paying for a front seat anyway. In my experience, lots of the pax (almost all) are transits on BKKs etc to Europe (in particular Paris), other ME destinations (Dammam etc) - and vice versa. Why not play to your strengths?
I really think that all-economy is the only niche left for GF. The regional 'thing' is all sown up and a revenue decreasing exercise anyway.
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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 13:40
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Ferris, I think you might be onto something there actually. Long haul Y operation (decent operation) wouldn't go amiss in these hard times. Perhaps a certain amount of GF pride would have to be swallowed to be brave enough to ditch F and J completely, though. But the concept of yours is a good one, IMO.

If they wished, the could supplement the operation with A319LR's in all J config for routes which still carry "some" demand for a premium cabin.
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