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Old 28th Nov 2009, 20:45
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sky bed..

We grew up with Gulf Air and it's really hurts to see it going down to be a low cost airline..

I dont see Gulf Air future with this new plan.. does any one think that beside the staff who will leave GF, also loyal passengers will shift to other airlines, other airlines go for big aircrafts and we go for small aircrafts only!! why?

Dont tell me that we might lease some aircrafts from RJ .. 2 rubbish aircrafts and God bless us if CEO bring more.
I agree whats wrong with the big planes? Usually when the big planes(330and 340) fly with 100and below pax but the plane flys on full cargo! wont the airline make losses due to the lack of cargo?
GF should really re think about getting rid of the F class. I also think that those embraers people are paying majali money under the table. no one in their right mind would convert the airline which doesnt go smaller than 320s into getting them to purchase those regional aircraft.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 04:16
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Guys what is the matter with you?
What makes you think that a BIG BIRD makes a company profitable?
What makes you think that the rest of the region companies are a role model for every smart business?
What makes you think that having big birds makes the company look good to our customers?
What makes you think that our senior "cpts" can give good advise to the managers? It's like the minister of transport of a serious country takes advises from his/her bus drivers. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
You guys make laugh. You people seem that you have no idea of what is going on around our world. Maybe you should start reading other news other than the "Khaleej news" and watch a less filtered channel than "Al Jazeera".
The money that the government has planned to spent on GF is nothing compare to the rest of the region. Or even if it is as big as the rest why no to spent the money on Schools, Homes, Wellfare, etc. And in the other hand make GF profitable so other generations after you can enjoy it as well? BUT NOOOO you guys want to fly the big birds. Because each and everyone of you can ONLY fit in a 340 and above. Maybe you can compromise with 330. THIS iS SAD.
And you know what? I hope GF succeeds on her plan to shut everybody up.
MAA SALAMIA
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 06:19
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Guys what is the matter with you?
What makes you think that a BIG BIRD makes a company profitable?
What makes you think that the rest of the region companies are a role model for every smart business?
What makes you think that having big birds makes the company look good to our customers?
What makes you think that our senior "cpts" can give good advise to the managers? It's like the minister of transport of a serious country takes advises from his/her bus drivers. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
You guys make laugh. You people seem that you have no idea of what is going on around our world. Maybe you should start reading other news other than the "Khaleej news" and watch a less filtered channel than "Al Jazeera".
The money that the government has planned to spent on GF is nothing compare to the rest of the region. Or even if it is as big as the rest why no to spent the money on Schools, Homes, Wellfare, etc. And in the other hand make GF profitable so other generations after you can enjoy it as well? BUT NOOOO you guys want to fly the big birds. Because each and everyone of you can ONLY fit in a 340 and above. Maybe you can compromise with 330. THIS iS SAD.
And you know what? I hope GF succeeds on her plan to shut everybody up.
MAA SALAMIA
I think that your the management.If we do every thing for the future generations then what will we have in this generation?
Fool m e once shame on you .fool me twice shame on me. and its obviouse that the management is trying to "fool" us or something.
GF should find other ways to make profit .As this way is a little bit too risky.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 06:51
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i think skybed proves the point on why GF is in this situation. Someone once told me a truly stupid person does the same thing twice and expects a different outcome
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 07:31
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I too have started to wonder whether this thread is dominated by trolls, especially in the last week or two. In any case, it shows that GF has more problems to it than just a broken business model.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 07:40
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If Gulf Air needs to save money then it should chop all top managment..why?

Because they always make wrong decisions

Example:
They know they are going to close PVG so why they change the timing?!
Do you know how much it cost Gulf Air to change the timing.. a lot of money.

And now it is pick PVG and we have a lot of cargo which cover the fuel and all handling charges.

So all what skybeds said is 100% true.. any one who dont agree, maybe one of the thiefs that are well paid.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 09:22
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Panama I think that this symbol it's unknown to this region or it does not mean a think to most of the locals.
If you ask them why the Shiaa flags are black colour aparently they will tell you that it's for moorning or maybe they will tell you that this is the shiaa colour. That goes for both shiaa and souni.

By the way Skybeds I am not management. I am just riding the same bus as you. Our diference is that it seems that I care more for your country than you do. Here is your post so I will remind you what I mean.
I think that your the management.If we do every thing for the future generations then what will we have in this generation?
Fool m e once shame on you .fool me twice shame on me. and its obviouse that the management is trying to "fool" us or something.
GF should find other ways to make profit .As this way is a little bit too risky.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 11:02
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i think skybed proves the point on why GF is in this situation. Someone once told me a truly stupid person does the same thing twice and expects a different outcome
yea your right desert hawk and thank you for agreeing with me. I think its time to take a different approach.we really dont have any statistical value for this plan.The plan is obviously a disaster waiting to happen.

By the way Skybeds I am not management. I am just riding the same bus as you.
And its obvious that the bus driver is drunk.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 11:43
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Just wondering. How much is the commission of buying 1 new aircraft?
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 11:47
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i agree with some of that brandz..
non flying employees should be redirected to other parts of the business.
we should all get invovled in brainstorming for ideas for GF, if the compny reads these forums they should take it in a positive way and use the forume to generate ideas from all its employees, mabe it will help them think outside of the box for the bennefit of all.
GF should think of other investments in Bahrain and the GCC to generate income for the core business.
maybe setup a charter arm, or a recruting company that offers qualified staff to other companies who need them in the region.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 11:50
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the norm......1%
but usually u get more from spare parts and maint agreements. all u gotta do is sign the papers...
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 11:55
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It's like the minister of transport of a serious country takes advises from his/her bus drivers. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
In the defense of Bus drivers, They could have avoided the disaster lease deal of A321 had they consulted any of the bus driver or at least the cheif of bus drivers.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 12:30
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Ion-Athan.. go to the hell

Gulf Air is the national carrier of Bahrain and you should learn how to appreciate, being here with Shia and Sunna in this country working for this company.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 12:40
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Gulf Air is the national carrier of Bahrain and you should learn how to appreciate, being here with Shia and Sunna in this country working for this company.
Goes to show how politicized this company is
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 16:00
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the plan is ridicules. i wouldn't be surprised if GF stops flying to bahrain because its "unprofitable"
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 20:24
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Danger Who's going to dominate the regional flights

Who's going to dominate the regional flights around...


http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...ef6eaa6b4.aspx
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 21:04
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Lots of us still dreaming that GF days will come back, each new CEO says will turn the company around in three years, I ve been hearing this three years since 2002 when Hogan took over,every time three years, three years ,three years, how many three years?
we have to admit that will never happen, ever , Gf glory days are gone,gone, finnitoooooooooo,
my fairy free advise to all of us lets drop this dream and look some greener side next doors, otherwise we will keep moron and beaching ,my c vs will be gone soon.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 21:15
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Latest rumour is they (= GF ) will stop Manilla within the next 6 months.
G.S has been told to look for another job.

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Old 29th Nov 2009, 22:01
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Thumbs up Mangemant Corruption

DEAR STAFF AND Ion-athan,

gOOD MORNING

I totally agree with STAFF about the corruption of GF mangement as from experience we could see that staff who leave GF ,they are very successful everywhere but in GF not,this is a logic notion that the core problem in GF co. is the managerial corruption and missmagement nothing else.

But I disagree with Ion-athan with full respect,that we do not have to mingle religions and cults of different people in the world in trying to examplify it for any issue as on what basis you did link the shii religion with a symbole shown unless you have some backwards mentalities that drive you off the road always.By any means,you do not have right to speak about sinii or shii as we will let others to speak about trinity and jewish people,budism....that would not help anyhow except creat some of burden in hearts for nothing except more heatred.

You might some rights when you mentioned that you have more loyalty to the country of STAFF,thanks for this feeling of being a mercinary in a country and you love it more than their people which shows how loyal and faithful you are.I believe that most of foreingers in Bahrain love Bahrain even more than their homes for one reason,what you might have it in such generous country ,you would not dream of it in your life in any other country in the world and this is to my knowlegde because of a political situation that let the people of this kingdom are living in an exceptional situation as they are treated less than the expat and what might let you and any other gentl people love and belong to the country of Bahrain more.
I do not mean to be tough as much as I am trying to share my poin of views as a reader,observer,and fair person to you and to all people in this universe without discrimination at all.
wish you a lovely time.
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Old 30th Nov 2009, 04:54
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Just to make things clear so we can continiue to what we were saying. My comment below is a "continiuing" message to Panama Jack posting the symbol of Anarchy. Concerning the religion part I did not insult anyone and you can see it from below. All I said is that a lot of people can't say why the Shiia flags are black and sometimes even the Shiia do not know. I don't see were is the religious insult.

Panama I think that this symbol it's unknown to this region or it does not mean a think to most of the locals.
If you ask them why the Shiaa flags are black colour aparently they will tell you that it's for moorning or maybe they will tell you that this is the shiaa colour. That goes for both shiaa and souni.
Continiuing on our normal conversation
I never said that the management was not corrupted. When the fish goes rotten it's start smelling from the head if you know what I mean.
We are already saying that our new CEO is corrupted just being only 4 months in Bahrain. He just announced the plan and everybody came up with his/her idea and the CEO's plan it's worthless. Give sometime to the guy then we can start shouting and protesting.
All I am saying is that we must a wait a little longer. Try to see things optimistic. An Airman or an Aviator is not only the pilot who flies the Big Bird.
Once again I am sorry if my above comment was missunderstood.
Respect to Rescuer that even though he missunderstood me he was a Gentleman
As for you STAFF I will not drop down to your level but I can assure one day I will go to hell but at least I will know why I am there.

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