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I'm afraid you have lost me there, can you elaborate?
Are we talking about GF here or the other Gulf Airlines? If it is GF then please let us know your thoughts, in particular how much is there?
Incidentally, I was not referring to GF when I mentioned flying the flag etc.
Are we talking about GF here or the other Gulf Airlines? If it is GF then please let us know your thoughts, in particular how much is there?
Incidentally, I was not referring to GF when I mentioned flying the flag etc.
I can elaborate by saying that none of the Gulf Airlines, including GF, have their revenue departments directly tied in to oil wells, in spite of what quite a few posters around here think and post.
Furthermore, I can't think of any of the airlines here and the countries that founded them that can afford to subsidize them indefinitely in order to fly their flag. They were started as businesses, run by expat airline "professionals", to make money not to lose it.
Secondly, obviously they would all like to make money, however it is also obvious that 'flying the flag' at all costs is important to some, very important.
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Anyone that actually works for any of the gulf carriers should realize by now that the concept of them being supported by limitless buckets of oil money is a fallacy.
Their owners may seem oblivious to the losses, but that has more to do with them being oblivious to said loses.
Che, just which airlines do you think are actually "flying the flag"?
I hope you are not confussing advertising gimicks like sponsoring football teams and stadiums with flying the flag!
Their owners may seem oblivious to the losses, but that has more to do with them being oblivious to said loses.
Che, just which airlines do you think are actually "flying the flag"?
I hope you are not confussing advertising gimicks like sponsoring football teams and stadiums with flying the flag!
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The eight-MP Al Asala Islamic bloc yesterday welcomed the alleged sacking of a Finnish official responsible for the company's future strategy, but warned that the worst is yet to come, as new unqualified personnel were being hired.
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For example, the marketing director who we believe should be sacked, spent around BD700,000 to bring in a musical group Simply Red, to play in one the events for an hour and what I am asking is, if this is what a sane, qualified official should have done, considering that the company needs every fil at this difficult time."
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For example, the marketing director who we believe should be sacked, spent around BD700,000 to bring in a musical group Simply Red, to play in one the events for an hour and what I am asking is, if this is what a sane, qualified official should have done, considering that the company needs every fil at this difficult time."
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Very surprised no-one has mentioned this. Or was the GDN banned from GF HDQ today?
Just more Ethnocentrism.
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Desert Diner, whilst the wording was not entirely correct it did cost GF that much to host the F1 party & Simply Red were simply way, way over paid by the marketing team.
Che, although I had to get my old dictionary out to understand what you were on about, please remember that it's a 2 way street & you & some of your collegues are also guilty of the same BS that our MPs are guilty of. A certain saying about glass houses springs to mind...
Also before you accuse me of being racist or believing that I am ethnically superior I can most definately say that ALL GF managers are donkeys just with different colored passports-I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of them.
Che, although I had to get my old dictionary out to understand what you were on about, please remember that it's a 2 way street & you & some of your collegues are also guilty of the same BS that our MPs are guilty of. A certain saying about glass houses springs to mind...
Also before you accuse me of being racist or believing that I am ethnically superior I can most definately say that ALL GF managers are donkeys just with different colored passports-I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of them.
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you & some of your collegues are also guilty of the same BS that our MPs are guilty of
Also before you accuse me of being racist
ALL GF managers are donkeys just with different colored passports
I was hoping that your pseudonym was perhaps chosen so that you could play the 'devil's advocate', this is obviously not the case as you have just hurled a massive boulder through your 'glass house'.
Finally, I thought long and hard about replying to your post as the purpose of this forum is to comment on Rumours and News in our industry and not hurl insults at each other as some people may believe. We might not all agree with other people's ideas, however we are all entitled to our opinions. The final word on ethnocentrism is that all cultures are guilty of it to some degree, however some more than others. I happen to come from a country where we are aware of it and try not to let it get in our way as we have opened our doors to people from all over the world in response for them doing so in the past for us.
Certainly if I was a racist as you seem to think, I would not be working here, that should be obvious.
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ALL GF managers are donkeys just with different colored passports-I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of them.
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so the finnish strategy guy has gone? and MPs again calling for naf to go. they may know little about aviation themselves, but they are certainly correct when they call him unqualified.
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I will defend BN in this instance. Do I like him? No. But that doesn't matter.
First, how would you define qualified? Someone with a degree in the field? Plenty of experience? Both?
I am opposed to the fact that he is being scrutinised on that basis alone. The reasons should be obvious. Results.
What has changed since he took the wheel? Or are you all too blind to notice? I challenge you to list those changes, real tangible changes before broadsiding the guy. Here's a few.
Improved aircraft conditions. Surely you would have noticed that. Only some aircraft haven't improved by that much. That can not be helped.
Improved OTP.
Improved pay and benefits. If you didn't see that, then try doing your budget based on the conditions two years ago.
Refleeting. About time too. B777 just about on line, A320s, A330s on the way, B787 down the road.
What I'm really trying to say is we've had unprecedented changes during BN's watch, mostly for the better. More changes than when GF had several owners. More changes ever.
It begs the question. Do they want him out so that others can claim the credit for all that hard work?
Because if you ask me, sacking him because of lack of qualification amidst all these fundamental changes in our airline just does not cut it.
First, how would you define qualified? Someone with a degree in the field? Plenty of experience? Both?
I am opposed to the fact that he is being scrutinised on that basis alone. The reasons should be obvious. Results.
What has changed since he took the wheel? Or are you all too blind to notice? I challenge you to list those changes, real tangible changes before broadsiding the guy. Here's a few.
Improved aircraft conditions. Surely you would have noticed that. Only some aircraft haven't improved by that much. That can not be helped.
Improved OTP.
Improved pay and benefits. If you didn't see that, then try doing your budget based on the conditions two years ago.
Refleeting. About time too. B777 just about on line, A320s, A330s on the way, B787 down the road.
What I'm really trying to say is we've had unprecedented changes during BN's watch, mostly for the better. More changes than when GF had several owners. More changes ever.
It begs the question. Do they want him out so that others can claim the credit for all that hard work?
Because if you ask me, sacking him because of lack of qualification amidst all these fundamental changes in our airline just does not cut it.
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Finally there...
