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Old 8th Feb 2013, 09:37
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Toga, there should be no loyalty in commercial aviation at all. I know that we all pretend to be loyal and at interview pretend to have wanted to join ABC airlines since we were at school, because, that is what the daft management twerps want to hear. The clown of a CP in a crap cowboy charter outfit in the UK, when interviewing casualties of the demise of a top competitor, actually asked candidates " Just how long do you intend staying with us ?". As if one would reply;"Well, for as long as it takes for me to get another job with a classy outfit !". Yeah, right !

I think EK, EY & QR should set up in the Gulf Hotel & initially, interview everyone who is unemployed as a result of the GF cutbacks. Then, interview everyone who wants to escape the same, potential fate.

I am sad to say, again, that GF appears, to me, to be doing the right thing. What many have, regrettably, advocated for a long time. Reduce costs, reduce fleet size, chop unprofitable & risky routes. They appear to be doing all of that. The inevitable fall out is job loss. Great HR care should be taken in setting up another dept charged with the task of securing jobs or opportunities for those displaced by the new strategy.

Give me a bit of funding, an office, a pretty secretary (preferably female) with full communication facility & I will come out & do it for you. And no, I won't shave off 20% of the funding for my back-pocket, clock in & then clock out after dates & coffee with my Sec,claim wild expenses as I trip around the Gulf, First Class, top hotels, meeting for dates & coffee with heads of EK, EY & QR, spinning out the meetings looking like we are all doing some work ! ................Promise.............!

Good luck to all. You WILL succeed in re-establishing yourselves as professional COMMERCIAL pilots as opportnuties seem to abound, right on your doorstep.

Oh, sorry, last poster, what is EOS ? Thanks.
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Old 8th Feb 2013, 13:24
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EOS

end of service $ i guess hope u get it all
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Old 8th Feb 2013, 17:15
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Great post Landflap. Agree 100%.
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Old 9th Feb 2013, 05:55
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EOS

Not his Canon SLR then? Thought I saw Corporate Comms using one to take pics of the strategic removal of chairs from the Sales & Marketing Social Club (canteen patio)
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Old 9th Feb 2013, 09:49
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Fartplate I usually piss on the likes of you before pissing off.
You're not gf staff therefore this place is not yours.
Go preach somewhere else no one needs your advice or suggestions
flame_bringer, it seems your beloved gf really reflects idiots like you. its all about you, you, you and you. never about your fellow pilots. you would never understand this because you're an engineer. i may not be with gf any more but i will always support pilots, even if it means bagging the airlines they fly for. because at the end of the day, all airlines look at pilots as an inconvenient but necessary cost to the operation, even when every loss is ALWAYS from bad management.
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Old 10th Feb 2013, 09:56
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A little birdie just told me that GF is starting to load it's machine guns for some more "firing" . Well I wont say " more " but rather lots. and it is going to be at the start of March. Thought it was all done and dusted but obviously not. Yeah go on folks, sack the crew and keep hold of the excessive managers. They will lead to the demise of the airline much quicker than you'd think.
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 04:45
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this is where flame_givers friends at management start kissing @ss to justify keeping their jobs....of course at the expense of hard working pilots.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 14:55
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Goodbye Bahrain Air... leaves the field clear for GF
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 15:36
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Best wishes to friends and former colleagues
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 16:35
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Definitely best wishes to all our colleagues.
I seriously hope GF get their together and take opportunity of this, and get back on track.
Take the jobs of the lunatics that dont deserve their positions, the incompetent heads that do f*** all but listen to orders given to them.
Keep the pilots, keep the aircrafts, get rid of the manager's manager's managers, and just be smart for once.

As a former GF employee, and as an GCC citizen, I agree 100% that the positions at the top should ONLY be given to whites. Atleast they do thier work without stealing anything.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 22:46
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BD 600 million !!

That is how much GF has to pay its creditors. Of course , that does not include the operating expenses and the daily losses. That is really astonishing for a country as small as Bahrain.

Who in his right mind will dare to buy this airline and restructure it into profitability?
Just how many people they can sack and how many station they can close? and what about the orders with both Airbus and Boeing ???

One famous Aussie CEO said once about the airline strategy " You downsize GF and close stations , you say goodbye to this airline."

This is all mind boggling.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 22:52
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BD 600 million !!

That is how much GF has to pay its creditors. Of course , that does not include the operating expenses and the daily losses. That is really astonishing for a country as small as Bahrain.
you can blame all that on ali baba and the 40 thieves at the pink palace.

As a former GF employee, and as an GCC citizen, I agree 100% that the positions at the top should ONLY be given to whites. Atleast they do thier work without stealing anything.
finally, another local with some sense. if there were more like gcc_ and the author of that gdn piece, the island will really be a prosperous little gem in the gulf.

you listening, flame_thrower???
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Old 13th Feb 2013, 09:16
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What a shambles civil aviation in Bahrain has become . Total ineptitude across the board from the top down. The Bahrain Air demise another classic example but leading to the painful fallout of job loss. A Minister of Transport, we are told, on the Board of Commercial Airline. Good grief. Just where was that ever going to lead ? And the State Carrier owing BD600m ! Across the board, Heads, stand up & hang your heads in shame.
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Old 13th Feb 2013, 11:25
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Gcc your post deserves a big of .
Get the unqualified "lunies" OUT and see the difference. Absolutely no justification in chopping the juniors' jobs yet keeping excess baggage in the managing department.
GCC, running the company is not neccessarily run better by "whites" or "non whites". It merely should be run by a qualified personnel with an excellent proven track record and full authority handed over to him/her.
I, personally feel so bitter about all the corruption that exists in GF in broad daylight and people, responsible in stopping these, are giving a blind eye".
Bahrain Air has lost it's battle and it seems GF will follow suit if they're not so careful.
Feel sorrow for the friends and colleagues of Bahrain air and I wish them all the best in the near future
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 11:17
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So, 'space' has to be made now to accomodate in Gulf Air the Bahrain Air local pilots??
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 12:14
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Actually if GF is wise enough, they should consider the gap left by Bahrain Air in seat occupancy to KTM, CMB and Dhaka. This is the time when they should really embrace the opportunity and try maintaining those routes to meet passenger demands. Come on marketing Dept and higher managerial position guys, this is the time to show that you do care about your airline and not your over inflated pay cheques.
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Old 15th Feb 2013, 12:27
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Errrmm, probably not: the 'Re-Aligned Network' will serve 'destinations in the Middle East, Europe, Far East and India', 'moving away from low-yield transit traffic and concentrating on high-demand and high-yield point-to-point routes to connect Bahraini businesses with regional markets'. KTM? CMB? DAC? Not India and of little interest to "Bahraini businesses" I would have thought. And the citizens of those countries working in Bahrain? Let them clutter-up their national carrier or head down the Gulf to ride on QR, EY or EK.
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Old 15th Feb 2013, 15:25
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'moving away from low-yield transit traffic and concentrating on high-demand and high-yield point-to-point routes to connect Bahraini businesses with regional markets
You're right, it hasn't worked well for EK etc has it?

Do you really think that Bahraini businesses can support an airline of any size, that is big enough to be profitable? With competition from 'the big three, and the successful lo-co operators, and a plan like that, well, good luck to you.

We shall all be watching from foreign shores with quiet bemusement, no doubt.
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Old 15th Feb 2013, 16:02
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bahrain is the centre of the business world, did u not know? just ask all the locals who believe this! GF new fleet to consist of ..

4 PA 350(not a 310 a 350 for high yield pax from riffa)
2 Dash 8 100 and our aircraft for heavy loads.......a YAK 140.


All joking aside the whole idea of servicing Bahrain business is a joke. M ight as well downsize now to 10 aircraft.. or wait a sec thats their plan anyways they just have not told us yet!

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Old 15th Feb 2013, 16:32
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Any tom, Dick and Harry knows that if your route is low yield, then you have to have more seating capacity to cover that cost. Instead of dispatching 320s to KTM and Dac etc, you could simply send a wide body capable of carrying more passengers and not forgetting tons more of cargo. If the "Big 3 " , as Che correctly put it, can make profits out of those routes , why cant GF ?. So there surely must be a big flaw in the system.
And while closing these " feeder" destinations, I dread to see how many full flights we'll have to RUH, Doh, Dmm,etc.
Who in their right frame of mind would even consider slashing those sub continent routes. Oooppppss, slipped my mind. The genuises in the Pink Palace...

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