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Old 11th Mar 2013, 21:10
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Gulf Air then and now.

I agree with 777BOYO, it is such a shame to see that such a previously well respected airline Gulf Air has become what it is today. I spent 10 happy years with Gulf Air in the days of the 5 Star TriStar/B737s joining them in 1975 as the 1011s were replacing the VC10s . I left the company as the Arabisation began and joined a UK airline only to be made redundant when the UK company collapsed not too long afterwards.
I still have fond memories of GF.
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 18:52
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If anyone is interested, they are already calling people off leave to crew flights because now, believe it or or not, they don't have enough crew...what a surprise...
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 20:46
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SOP

This SOP for Gulf Air ,nothing new.Same s..t .
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 06:23
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The following video seemingly documents the phenonemon of why Gulf Air has had a string of CEO's.

Wildebeest from Bird Box Studio - YouTube
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 14:43
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Says you are not authorized to see it...?
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 16:27
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Gulf Daily News Local News Aviation skills setback fears

feel bad for these kids...
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Old 20th Mar 2013, 09:03
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These guys plus 1000 students from BAS who have undergone a similar training worth 20k bd plus 300 (number keeps increasing) pilot training graduates under the sponsorship of GAA who have an outstanding 50k bd debt yet lining up or awaiting to line up in the unemployment que, plus unemployed bahrain air staff.
Aviation industry keeps going down the pan in bahrain.
It's really depressing.

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Old 20th Mar 2013, 12:22
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Wonder where all that bank loan money goes once these "training" facilities grab it...
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Old 20th Mar 2013, 20:30
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The whole of GAA idea was a huge scam from the outset, It used to generate and save lots of money to GF when it used to be GF property, Then some scammer managed to convince gulf air shareholder to seperate the training school from the company and turn it into GAA, who happens to be the same guy that inaugurated the BAS training facility (which has proven to be a failure given the amount of unemployed graduates back then, who got got sacked from BAS eventually due to his ineptitude) comes up with a pilot training program and aircraft technicians program brainwave that was severely disorganized to get 300 guys into the scam that was adorned by the 5 years contract in a fictitious and pointless company named gulf technics that did not need to exist to begin with, given that gulf air already has its own maintenance team yet it says in thier website gulf air will be their primary client like why would gulf air need to outsource its maintenance to a company full of unexperienced trainees when they already got thier own qualified and experienced people, He was pretty smart actually at snatching the tamkeen funding and ruining these guys future and inflicting further cost on gulf air.
I really feel sorry for these guys and hope they manage to land on thier feet.

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Old 21st Mar 2013, 06:20
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Originally Posted by calmcavok
That's not an offer from the goodness of their hearts! They're obliged to pay that under Bahraini Labor laws, plus indemnity and outstanding leave.
Of that you can dream about in the silence of your company apartment. I for myself have done all the preparations, even if I don't seem to be the first one
Originally Posted by Landflap
The institutions got badly hit by expats, in other areas, just maxed out credit cards & left cars with keys in the ignition at the airport and then fled for home
In other words, the boat is ready in the marina. Still a couple of pleasant layovers to perform, and...
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 09:50
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Until when???


Flame_bringer ... you are right on the money

The unnamed "guy" happens to also co-own (through his sister) alocal aviation training school that captured a good chunk of the Tamkeen money.The school's name reminds me of one of the main US wireless service providers,except the latter is a legit business. Something to keep in the horizon.

The BD4.8m is a total waste, more to be wasted trying to shush thesetrainees to accept a post with GF as apprentices making BD200 / month. Then theperpetrators can run free with no worries.

Gulf Technics had one purpose, to justify the training program and insurethe funding requirements were there on paper. Their plan were obviously silly,if not abysmal, 3 hangars, in BAHRAIN?? and training 500 LAE/Techs? Where wouldthey work?
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 09:57
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FAA flight surgeons in Bahrain

This is off topic from Gulf Air developments, but I need to renew my FAA First Class medical as soon as possible, and the only place I can do it in near term is Bahrain. There are two FAA certified Docs in BAH (both in Manama), and I'm trying to gather some info about them, recommendations, or if there is anything to watch out for. I would greatly appreciate any info from anyone that has interacted with either of these gents. Feel free to PM me in order to avoid cluttering the thread. Have a good weekend and best of luck with Gulf Air.
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 14:06
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The undertaker, Even gulfair has no capability to hire this many of apprentices, they're already sacking thier engineers and shrinking down on manpower, we're talking about 500 trainees here( excluding the ones that are not part of the tamkeen program who are pretty much 1000...), There is no where on earth that can accomodate all these guys even as unpaid trainees.
The whole thing was a dog's dinner to be frank.
Its so lame that curroption got this bad with people stealing millions of the public money and are getting away with it that easily.

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Old 24th Mar 2013, 03:47
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Flame_bringer ... they are forcing GF to take these guys to cover up the mess, the money will also be coughed up by GF as Tamkeen needs to show something for the BD4.8. Do the math: 200 trainees x BD200/mnth = 40,000 BD/mnth = BD480,000 / annum for min 2 years to cover up the mess ... money that GF desperately needs ...
Now what they will do with them is disperse them over the engineering departments, not just maintenance .... and in 2 years they can trim the group under another restructuring plan!
They get away with it by involving so many entities: GF, GT, GAA, Mumtalakat, Tamkeen .. all are involved, knowingly or unknowingly, so if you rat them out you rat out the entire conglomerate, and who wants that! So they end up covering the mess and sometimes bad guys are asked to resign with a good package to take home too ... the thing to watch is if GAA is asked to provide the training to these apprentices while in GF, that will be the cherry on top of the cake
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 14:38
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no one can force gulf air to do anything otherwise the MPs could of forced them to cieze the redundancies plan on locals and the trade union would of stopped the restructuring plan, tamkeen has yet to get jobs to 50 guys that have undergone a similar training of 4 years 2 years of which were practical and were done unpaid in gulf air and have achieved thier licenses already, yet they were unable to get them jobs in gulfair even after negotiotions and offers that half of thier salary will be paid by tamkeen, And as soon as thier unpaid contact ended they were sent home as jobless.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 16:55
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They can and they have in the past. They separated training with GF's teeth attached, they forced GF to sign the rotables contract with GT, who had only 6 staff members at the time and not a single spare part or even an IT system, the examples are plenty ... The key is in the "They", you have to see who controls GF, Tamkeen, Mumtalakat, and you will see what "They" can do.
GF was under a different management at the time you describe and the mess involved this time can only be covered this way. At any rate, time will tell!
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 06:54
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Anyone heard rumors about the new CEO coming soon? Heard from couple of chaps the guy is from states, any more details?
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:22
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Omani??? Maybe???
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:24
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Now can we get the chairs back at Costa Coffee?
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 09:30
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An airline is like a bicycle wheel....remove too many spokes, and the hub collapses...
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