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Che, i think this is instead of normal indemnity in case of restructuring, so if you were here 15-20 years you are basically screwed.
Indemnity is an integral part of the remuneration package in accordance with the labour law, as expats don't receive a pension. Indemnity would not be paid IF the company would be dissolved or goes bankrupt
Redundancy is paid as compensation for the breach of contract. Therefore an expat can expect to be paid both in case of being made redundant. Except if the redundancy was because of going into administration.
Therefore if an expat wanted to leave anyway it would be better to be made redundant!
However I'm sure GF HR are looking for ways to pay the least amount of money possible.
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Again, it might have changed in the time that I was there but for expats, redundancy was never in the formula because indemnity applied. Short term notice (like a day !) was often given & then because of the breach (no notice period), full pay in lieu of notice was to be paid. Redundancy was only paid to locals because they received no indemnity. I never heard of anyone getting both redundancy plus indemnity. To be fair, mate & colleague of mine was stitched up but after a right royal battle, he did win three months pay in lieu of three months notice plus indemnity. Of course it was reduced (quite a lot) with all sorts of fiddles but, as you intimate Aeroforce, HR & the Fleet Offices are past masters at minimising the payout.Apologies if the labour laws changed.
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Interesting that no one on this thread mentioned what kind of "redundancy" and "indemnity" package the "massalama guys" who were made redundant few days ago, got !
First hand information I've got is : 3 moths basic salary "in-lieu" of a notice period plus half the salary for the remaining months till end of contract !
Meaning that if someone had 8 months left to the end of contract he would get 7 basic salaries ! Approximately 75%, if not more, of the leaving indemnity of someone who is 8 years in GF !
Not bad for someone who spent slightly more than a year in the company !!!
On top of that, they also got an outstanding, highly commendable and altruistic gesture from the management who contacted the relevant managers in one of the neighboring airline and also in one major in the mediterranean, for them to take over the redundant pilots !!!
Amazing golden hand shake these guys got !!!
While I do not wish to anyone to lose his or her job, and especially because a pilot has to fly, hats down to GF on that one, they really went out of their way to compensate these guys in the best possible way and maybe a bit too far out of their way...
Just wishing GF will remember to give a same or similar treatment as this, when and if, the other expats will have to leave, and/or, stop reducing or cancelling benefits for those who stay !
First hand information I've got is : 3 moths basic salary "in-lieu" of a notice period plus half the salary for the remaining months till end of contract !
Meaning that if someone had 8 months left to the end of contract he would get 7 basic salaries ! Approximately 75%, if not more, of the leaving indemnity of someone who is 8 years in GF !
Not bad for someone who spent slightly more than a year in the company !!!
On top of that, they also got an outstanding, highly commendable and altruistic gesture from the management who contacted the relevant managers in one of the neighboring airline and also in one major in the mediterranean, for them to take over the redundant pilots !!!
Amazing golden hand shake these guys got !!!
While I do not wish to anyone to lose his or her job, and especially because a pilot has to fly, hats down to GF on that one, they really went out of their way to compensate these guys in the best possible way and maybe a bit too far out of their way...
Just wishing GF will remember to give a same or similar treatment as this, when and if, the other expats will have to leave, and/or, stop reducing or cancelling benefits for those who stay !
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Soft Altitude; my take would be this; 8 months left. Three months in lieu of notice = 3 X monthly pay. That leaves 5 months. 5 X monthly pay & then halve it. So, this 8 months to go guy gets 5.5 X monthly pay. Hey, but my maths reasoning often got me into the poooh. It is still better than nothing and I fear that any monies due would be attacked by the whizzes in HR.Golden handshakes was never the order of the day. Geees, my mate was given a "Ten year Service Certificate" after he had clocked up 15. This was placed in his pigeon hole because he didn't attend the ceremony lunch at the GF club. (They told him about it, ten days after it happened).
Because , like me,he was miserable at 'Doing the math' , he came out of it better off than his own calculation. So, he shot off to the Seef Mall & bought himself his own retirement Breitling. He still wears it, with pride today!
Because , like me,he was miserable at 'Doing the math' , he came out of it better off than his own calculation. So, he shot off to the Seef Mall & bought himself his own retirement Breitling. He still wears it, with pride today!
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Yeah exactly! Where are the rosters? Not even the customary excuse!
On another note heard that Bahrain Air will announce their long awaited closure on Thursday. Just wondering how much of their debt & management GF will be forced to take onboard, if any.
On another note heard that Bahrain Air will announce their long awaited closure on Thursday. Just wondering how much of their debt & management GF will be forced to take onboard, if any.
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DailyTribune - Local News
Gulf Air (GF) is flying on the wrong path by deserting staff at lower ranks, while top-level managers with fat salaries continue to enjoy easy life, despite mounting losses, accused MPs, yesterday.
Gulf Air (GF) is flying on the wrong path by deserting staff at lower ranks, while top-level managers with fat salaries continue to enjoy easy life, despite mounting losses, accused MPs, yesterday.
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THE UNTOUCHABLES!
Gulf Air (GF) is flying on the wrong path by deserting staff at lower ranks, while top-level managers with fat salaries continue to enjoy easy life, despite mounting losses, accused MPs, yesterday. 
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That will be THE DAY when managers are held accountable. About high time they start getting rid of the useless unqualified managers with deep fat pockets and leave the humble hardworking crew alone. They are the bread and butter earners of this company.
About high time they start getting rid of the useless unqualified managers with deep fat pockets and leave the humble hardworking crew alone. They are the bread and butter earners of this company.
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i think it is pretty clear that this ship is sinking! they have fired 70 or so cabin crew as of 28th and held the rosters so the employees would not know until their final day of work. IMO it is obvious that the powers that be have decided it is better to not tell the employees there real plan and more surprises will come. Those who think they are safe might find that the real plan is far different then what we all think. Anyways good luck to all as we all need it!
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i bet n.alsalmi and the rest of the management pilots are all eating their words of reassurances of past meetings.
they are now only worried about kissing @ss a little while longer to keep their fat pay packets until the titanic finally sinks.
lying bastards. never has management pilots been ever this self preserving in any company. shame on them.
they are now only worried about kissing @ss a little while longer to keep their fat pay packets until the titanic finally sinks.
lying bastards. never has management pilots been ever this self preserving in any company. shame on them.
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SMALL PLANES
SMALL AIRLINE
i love going over stuff i've written over 2 years ago and seeing how right i was. i hope all who ridiculed me back then can taste their own bull$hit in their mouths.
if you have any sense at all, leave this corrupt, bigoted, lying, dishonourable, and most importantly, dying company before you find yourselves in no-man's land getting molotov cocktails and tear gas thrown at you for your hard work and loyalty.
SMALL AIRLINE
SMALL MENTALITY
SMALL IMAGINATION
SMALL REWARDS
SMALL BUDGET
SMALL DREAMS
SMALL COURAGE
SMALL MINDS
can never survive with the kind of neighbours you have...big neighbours
can never compete with the kind of neighbours you have...with big pockets
can never be better with the kind of neighbours you have...who think quality
can never be open minded as the neihbours...who think world airline conquest
because you think small.
no more excuses. your strategy means slow and painful death to gf.
SMALL IMAGINATION
SMALL REWARDS
SMALL BUDGET
SMALL DREAMS
SMALL COURAGE
SMALL MINDS
can never survive with the kind of neighbours you have...big neighbours
can never compete with the kind of neighbours you have...with big pockets
can never be better with the kind of neighbours you have...who think quality
can never be open minded as the neihbours...who think world airline conquest
because you think small.
no more excuses. your strategy means slow and painful death to gf.
if you have any sense at all, leave this corrupt, bigoted, lying, dishonourable, and most importantly, dying company before you find yourselves in no-man's land getting molotov cocktails and tear gas thrown at you for your hard work and loyalty.
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This has gone too far with people like brassplate bagging others by name here then bashing the company on and on again.
Brassplate if you're not happy about gulf air leave this topic and stay away from it in whatever employer you're with at the moment, stop bashing the company in forums and consistently telling others to leave and other crap in this hard time, Then you start bashing locals as though you'd do any better if you were a head of department I'm a local and I take this one as an insult.
Careful with your words, If you're not happy leave.
Brassplate if you're not happy about gulf air leave this topic and stay away from it in whatever employer you're with at the moment, stop bashing the company in forums and consistently telling others to leave and other crap in this hard time, Then you start bashing locals as though you'd do any better if you were a head of department I'm a local and I take this one as an insult.
Careful with your words, If you're not happy leave.