Gulf Air Developments
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From: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
Remember what they told you their primary concern was during the interview...it's glaringly obvious in your posts here they might have had a genuine concern...
Joined: May 2010
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From: Middle East
No need for F/O's. Over a 100 Bahraini's waiting for S/O positions. DECs are a temporary solution (2 year renewable contract) mainly to fill the gaps left by experienced captains leaving for greener pastures. The country and company are aiming for Bahrainisation.
Joined: Sep 2003
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From: Far away from Idiots
This airline is a true joke. Not a single competitive manager to run the show. Trying to cover up for their huge f$$k up by having experienced lads leave and now blame the whole pilot shortage on the locals failing their command assessments or interview. Get a life folks and as long as your lucrative ideas are lining up your fat wallets, screw everything else. Milk the company dry while you can cause no where in a decent and properly run company would you dream of holding such titles and positions
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From: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
Joined: Aug 2009
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From: Planet Earth
Leave cancelation and annual leave reduction for 2014 due to crew shortage. Every year the same story. Morale is really low. People are getting sick and tired with incompetence of the people running the show.
People think again when applying here.
Don't get me wrong. Place is great. Company is screwing up our lives every year.
People think again when applying here.
Don't get me wrong. Place is great. Company is screwing up our lives every year.
Joined: Jun 2012
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From: Looking for a different place to live
DECS
It looks like they have advertised for DECs. Safety standard is already pretty low. The other airlines in the region are recruiting pretty heavily so maybe we'll get the guys who were not good enough to get into ALL the other airlines in the region. That will hurt the Safety standard even more. Safety First? Not sure about the contracts these guys will be offered. Knowing gulf air they will probably open up new destinations and increase frequencies. Then a few months later close them again and reduce destinations and then they will have to fire these new guys just like they did the last time around.
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Sand Pitt
''Leave cancelation and annual leave reduction for 2014 due to crew shortage. Every year the same story. Morale is really low. ''
Morale was low last year when the company was cancelling destinations and making people redundant. Now the company is starting new destinations and wants to hire people. Sure, everyone is upset that they are cancelling leave, especially since it was soooo predictable that this would happen after last year's panic! But morale is much higher now than last year. At least for people who haven't failed a command upgrade!
Morale was low last year when the company was cancelling destinations and making people redundant. Now the company is starting new destinations and wants to hire people. Sure, everyone is upset that they are cancelling leave, especially since it was soooo predictable that this would happen after last year's panic! But morale is much higher now than last year. At least for people who haven't failed a command upgrade!
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: UK
Command failures indicate that the company is not willing to compromise on standards, particularly when there is a developing crew shortage. One hopes, however, that the DEC standards are not compromised either. Nothing worse than a Command failure flying with a poor standard DEC. That really hurts, I guess !
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From: Manama
Hope that the "standard" of the DECs this time at least will be checked on a simulator
Not how it was last time
And then during a long event the guy can note cope with an engine failure after t/o, and got sacked after
Not how it was last time And then during a long event the guy can note cope with an engine failure after t/o, and got sacked after
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: UK
Yes. Guilty of double standards. One for upgrades and another for DEC. The very scenario I suggested would damage the mindset of Company First Officers coming up for Commands. At least they sacked him. Once again, one witnesses the knee jerk re-action by managers who, simply, cannot manage. Upgrading is a specialist field & one that I was involved with for decades. Direct entry recruitment is, also, very specialised. Very important to get both right. My company tried very hard to explain this in both areas and tried to avoid the situation where an upgrade failure felt that others in the LHS were more worthy in the Company eyes but less capable. The huge risk is that FO's start leaving. The very people who should be encouraged to stay. Another reminder of how bereft of managerial skill this once mighty company has become.
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From: Planet Earth
Really LNAV-VNAV? You think that the people working for Gulf Air and especially FLT Deck are happy with high morale? Just because they are hiring few more people (which it is not management fault poor planing etc but the fault of the bad F/O that failed the command upgrade) and opening 3 more wonderful destinations does not bring the morale up. When you see people resigning every week morale is not high my friend. Everyone wants to go way not from beautiful Bahrain but away from lack of vision, leadership, managerial skills etc that affect our life and the life of our families in an everyday basis.
High morale is not coming to work and hear pilots complaining and not for small things that we all pilots complain for. Maybe you are a Bahraini pilot which you comfort the job security (and don't get me wrong, that's the way companies should protect their local employees) but for as expats that our job almost came to an end not too long ago and we used to say "we are next " it is not the same.
We lost friends due to the company's redundancy ridiculous plan and 8 months after while still paying the ones that kicked out we are hiring again. And maybe the day by day plan will change again and more people will be looking for a job in six months.
I don't want to be negative but since I came things are getting worst and worst. Sitting here and writing full of anger of these people affecting my life it is not healthy.
I mean come on we are suppose to be happy because they gave us unlimited swap between us? It seems that they gave us the lollipop to start sucking and by the time it finishes we will leave them in peace.
......and they lived happily ever after
High morale is not coming to work and hear pilots complaining and not for small things that we all pilots complain for. Maybe you are a Bahraini pilot which you comfort the job security (and don't get me wrong, that's the way companies should protect their local employees) but for as expats that our job almost came to an end not too long ago and we used to say "we are next " it is not the same.
We lost friends due to the company's redundancy ridiculous plan and 8 months after while still paying the ones that kicked out we are hiring again. And maybe the day by day plan will change again and more people will be looking for a job in six months.
I don't want to be negative but since I came things are getting worst and worst. Sitting here and writing full of anger of these people affecting my life it is not healthy.
I mean come on we are suppose to be happy because they gave us unlimited swap between us? It seems that they gave us the lollipop to start sucking and by the time it finishes we will leave them in peace.
......and they lived happily ever after
Joined: Aug 2007
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Cyprus
Ion ; You see the potential for all this affecting your health & appear wise enough to do something. Do not let it get to the point where your health suffers.I was there on the 76 & GF could not handle the "Age over 60" stuff at the same time as the winding down of the fleet. It nearly affected my health but after lolling about on Venice beach, playing drums at the "Baked Potatoe"on Sunset Boulevard & getting a job offer to fly corporates out of Burbank, I realised that there was a much better life outside of GF. Six month & one year contracts are the joke of the century & encourage very low morale in those accepting them. Go where you are wanted. Don't stay where you are really , not. Safe flying .