gottofly

how many captains does FD currently have and when is the next aircraft expected"?

giggedy

Well guys,

I turned it down and worried if I did the right thing, but now...

Im asking, is it still really the best 737 job out there ?

Latest destination Kabul ?? Really? What next ?

Buddies tell me of 4 sector nights starting at midnight, more max duty night flights, poor rostering practices, random drug testing/Alc on report.

Is there any concern amongst you guys or is this all blown out of proportion ?

NGFellow

Is the 24,000 USD 3 year bond a decreasing one? I.E. for each month/year served the amount is reduced?

Voodoo 3

Giggedy,

If it's not the best 737 job in the world as Carlsberg might say, it is a job nevertheless. Yes there are some issues at the moment, rostering certainly being one of them (earlies to lates anyone?) and the Kabul destination has definately raised lots of questions and concerns.

Yes no-one likes to go to work at midnight and fly all night and sleep all day but it is paid really quite well (tax free) and does enable you to have a life on your time off.

Like most things in life, if you don't want it then fine as someone else will be there to take your place. I chose to come here and while there are things that I hope change, by and large things are a lot better than not and I am happy to be here.

NG Fellow, yes the bond decreases on a pro-rata basis. That is the longer you stay then the less you will pay the company if you leave before your three years. (Decreases month by month)

V3

Iver

Do not take these questions as negative. With all due respect, if EK is currently hiring pilots with 737NG experience (they are also evidently considering pilots with CRJ experience only), why go to FD if you could get hired by EK? Are sleeping at home every night and the lack of serious jet lag the big benefits of FD relative to EK? How different are the starting salaries/packages between EK and FD?

Has anyone on these boards considered both EK and FD and chosen FD? If so, how did you compare the two?

NGFellow

Thanks for the info regarding the bond. I think that there should not be a bond for someone who is typed and qualified on the airplane. However it appears that FD is requiring one for all applicants.

Regarding housing, what would a 4 bedroom/4bath apartment run these days?
School allowance--is it per child, upto 3 or the total?
Travel: ID 90's on other airlines?

DHC6to8

Was going to take the deal at FD until I found out that they wanted to staple my arse to a chair... I mean, why bond typed guys? If you make a sweet deal sweet enough, you won't have to staple any arses down!!
I walked...
6to8

FZckntkawrap

All info regarding housing/cars can be found at www.dubizzle.com

School allowance is per child, up to 3 kids. All schooling must take place in UAE, meaning they won't pay for private school in the home country......even University.

Travel on EK is only ID90 benefit.

Voodoo 3

You're absolutely right there NG Fellow. Lots of us came to FD with masses amounts of NG experience, some even IRE/TRE too. We only needed a few sim sessions, barely touched groundschool and very limited line traing and they still slapped a 3 year $24k bond on us. A lot of us grumbled at it but accepted as we wanted the job but as DHC6 said, it wasn't for him and he walked.

Iver, as for why people might be going to FD and not EK, maybe they have been put off by all the EK moaning threads on this forum. It must have made some people think twice?!

V3

giggedy

I gather the rumour that business ID 90's will no longer be available to FD staff with EK has now been officially confirmed.
(except managers of course)

Why? If a seat is empty whats the problem with a standby pax occupying it? (extra fuel burn )

Nah, someone at EK got the sh*ts cos these new guys were onto a good thing


You have to ask why FD T's and C's are going downhill so early on ?


'EK lite' has a certain ring to it, eh?

Greenkiwi

I am one of the first self funded student pilot doing the MPL programme in Sharjah which MAY lead to a job in Air Arabia. At the end of training I should end up with circa 500 hours on the A320. I would be happy to work with Air Arabia but just want to see what all my options might be. I live in DXB. Does anyone have a phone number or e mail of someone in Fly Dubai flight deck recruitment who I can contact to discuss future career prospects at Fly Dubai, as this might affect the type rating I opt for as I am presently heading to A320 type rating? Hope to be flying by 2011. Just finished 850 hours of ground school. Thanks.

NGFellow

You need Boeing time for FlyDubai. I suggest you look at Airbus operators with an Airbus type rating. Also, unless you are a local "Shabab" you need more hours.

onvacation

Unless your a Masochist, I wouldn't come here. Things have progressively gotten worse! 7 to 8 days off a month with 45-50 hours of flying is rediculous! Early morning trips at the beginning of the week followed by all nighters at the end of the week...I've never been this tired flying only 45 hours! Lot's of standby days and now they only give us a one hour call out (have fun living in Sharja). They expect everyone to be contactable everyday. No more business class on emirates...no big deal though because you can't string enough days off together to go anywhere! The B scale makes it all worth it though...can't wait to fly to Kabul! It's too bad all the negative changes, because they have a lot of good people here!

ManaAdaSystem

Oh my, and you guys have not even started the India flights yet? They will be back to back night flights for sure!
80 hrs+ (yes, you have been complaining of not enough hours) of that should give the word fatigue a new meaning.

Bond for rated pilots? Now we know why.

BurDubaiBob

I could write a long list on the reductions in Terms & Conditions and undelivered items at flydubai, but right now the only real item of concern is Kabul.

We are now expected to fly into a war zone, whilst our management bleat on about how much they care about us, though if you examine the list of reductions in T&C's and broken promises delivered to us thus far, it doesn't exactly show a lot of care or compassion!

The Flight Operations and the Safety Department (which is seriously lacking in both credibility and stature) must be only too well aware that operations into / out of Kabul are fraught with danger ( surface to air missile anybody? and see a Stinger in action ) but they haven't got the balls or integrity to stand-up and say "No!" to it.

And be in no doubt that most reputable life insurance, health insurance, or mortgage policies will not pay out should you get injured or killed during operations in to or out of Afghanistan... and the flydubai answer to this will be to recompense you, or your dependents, with two years worth of your basic salary only. Not exactly equitable is it?!

Pic of an Afghan freedom fighter taking aim.....

Ali Ronn

It's not back to back night flights I mind, it's continually swapping from earlies to lates with 12 hour standbys inbetween...

Not to worry about Kabul though, we are assured the rocket attacks on the airport are 'random'!

NGFellow

Random rocket attacks are like statistics. If only .1% of aircraft are targeted, and you are part of that .1% it matters not if you are part of the 99.9% of the aircraft not being targeted

gottofly

Is FD expecting an aircraft every mnth after october this yr and if so,can one expect to get more flying?Also,can anyone confirm if economy ID90 tickets are still given and if so,how many?thanx4info

Gmann2005

Hi guys,

Can anyone confirm if FlyDubai are still interviewing First Officers or has it all gone quiet for a few months?

Thanks

FZckntkawrap

Still interviewing. Rumor is that they will slow hiring in the summer, July and August...... Hiring should pickup again for the fall as there are lots of airplanes arriving starting again in October. If you do get a job here, don't expect to be able to go home or get out of Dubai very often. Schedules are garbage, no one knows what their leave is past June, and there is no support from the chief pilots office to make any of it better. Don't even think about giving the front office any ideas on how to improve the situation......that will only lead to a "tea & biscuits" meeting with the chief pilot. However, since this is a low cost operation you must bring your own biscuits as only the tea, coffee, or water will be provided