Ww/W

Thanks very much for the info TelBoy. I went to City uni about 7years ago and was diagnosed as CP4 'colour unsafe'. I'm trying to sort out a date when I can visit again to trial the new tests for the great and adorable CAA.

I'm thinking of writing a letter asking why they have to be so different to the rest of the world. Anywho I've been considering the CASA/FAA route for a while now. I don't know whether to commit myself and then find nobody will employ me.

TelBoy

Ww/W A word of caution with the CAA. It seems that if you do their colour vision tests and fail then they will not retest you. Get a full idea from the City Uni to see if you will pass now or maybe the long awaited new test, or even in Holland or Germany, you don't want to burn bridges with the CAA just yet.

I know what you mean with the FAA route. I have failed the CAA tests, albeit about 14 years ago now and before the JAA, so I might have a fight with them to get a retest, BUT I have a SODA waiver for the good old FAA

I don't know about your personal circumstances or nationality, but if you are not a US citizen, you might be able to get a J1 visa to do a CPL with Instructor rating and then work there for a while after instructing to gain experience. I feel that you would be OK with a SODA for that - but then comes the real world . Just remember to learn to fly in the USA now you need a student visa and security clearance.

I do not know if you can do the signal test outside the USA - I did mine while I was dooing my PPL there.

As for writing a letter to the CAA I think all they will say is that they are looking into new tests and to be fair to them they are.

I know it seems a never ending battle, but don't give up on your dreams. I am in the same situation - did my PPL and it seemed there was no hope, so did not keep flying. Now I am 43 with CVD and intend to start all again - I WILL do my CPL, FAA if need be and take it from there. I don't know where the money is going to come from etc, but always look to the sky when I hear a plane overhead - it's just got to be done.

Any rich person want to sponsor me - well its got to be tried!!

Good luck and keep the dream.

corin100

Hi,
I have today tried to book my initial class1 at Gatwick, there seemed to be a little uncertainty as to my vision when they spoke to me on the phone.Although they were very helpful I was wondering if any of you had an opinion on my prescription? I think the problem is my astigmatism and they wanted to see my past three years prescriptions.

RIGHT SPH +0.75 CYL -2.50 AXIS 95


LEFT SPH +0.50 CYL -2.00 AXIS 94


Cheers

Jimmy The Big Greek

well its your right eye that is the problem with 2.5 diopters of astigmatism. They asked about your records to see if it is stable. Astigmatism is usually stable and I think that there should not be any problems.

If you have problems with obtaining a first class medical you should consider lasik.

Wazzoo

As Jimmy says, its the 2.5 in your right eye thats the problem, since the limits for astigmatism are 2.0.

However, do not just assume that you can gain a Class 1 through the help of laser eye surgery. In the CAAs own words:

"In fact the certification limits of eye correction with glasses and the limits of refraction before surgery are the same, so it is not possible to gain a medical certificate by having refractive surgery, that you would not have obtained by wearing glasses."

Any laser surgery should be done with consultation with the CAA and an eye specialist who knows the situation for pilots.

Jimmy The Big Greek

yes I know that, But in his case with that prescription I'am pretty sure that it would be ok.

Wazzoo

Apologies, didn't mean to say you didn't, just spoken to a number of people who jump to the conclusion that laser surgery is the answer to getting a class 1.

From a brief glance they look fine for a Class 1 but do not take my word for it..see an optemetrist who is familiar with the requirements for aviation and can explain it all properly. But at the end of the day its down to the CAA to give the yay or nay. I had a friend who never wore glasses but got turned down on a rare condition that precluded him from a Class 1 so its never a given until you have the piece of paper in your hand.

More details can be found here: http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...=90&pageid=534

Some pages explaining prescriptions and eyesight for aviation pulled from Google:
http://www.eyetopics.com/articles/94...Explained.html
http://www.aoa.org/x5351.xml (american)

justdafacts25

Hello from a newbie!
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whitelabel

The dont need to accept this. This is their own choice. But no problem sofar. Why is it so important that CAA need to accept your medical?? For example. If you hold a class one French medical, you will have the same rights as your english friends. Get ATPL and you are allowed to work in whole europe.

already done an initial exam? after this it is not possible to do an initial elsewhere.

good luck

TelBoy

Hi folks. I'm a bit confused about the situation being discussed here, but VERY interested. Is it possible to get say a Dutch class 1 medical and use this for a UK CAA Licence? or do you need to do a Dutch ATP and then work in the rest of Europe.

Us English are not as good at learning other languages to study in you see

Lord Flashart

To obtain a CPL the medical must be issued in the state that will issue the licence, but any JAA licence is as good as any other and can be used in any JAA state.

Bad medicine

Ladies and Gents,

This topic is getting a bit repetitive, with so many people posting their prescription and asking if it will be OK. The limits for most of the regulatory authorities appear in this thread, or are available on their websites. try to do a little research on your own behalf before posting here. There will always be doubtful cases, and the only people who can answer those ones with any authority are the respective regulatory body.

We are not here to quell discussion, but this is really not the place to be getting your answers.

Cheers,

BM

justdafacts25

Thanks for the Support.
I just joined this board and have been reading through a bunch of posts. I wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate all the support you give one another. I think it will be really helpful for me to read what other people are going through. So, thanks!

Wilco2

I had laser surgery eighteen months ago and am delighted with the result. I now have stable 20/20 vision with no complications. However, I gather this is still not acceptable to the CAA for a Class 1 medical as my level of prescription BEFORE surgery was outside limits? (Perfectly OK for my Class 2 though). From other threads I have read it seems the FAA are more reasonable in their requirements - can anyone confirm this please?
Apologies if this has been covered before but I could not see anything on this specific subject

justdafacts25

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2close

The only way you can mix 'n' match is between the UK and RoI, where a reciprocal agreement exists to accept each others Theory, Medical and Flight Training. Anywhere else, you have to have all three conducted in the State of Licence Issue.

Not because it states so in JARs but because that is how JARs have been interpreted by member states.

JARs actually state that it is possible to complete training in one state that has been commenced in another state - member states just choose to ignore this sub-para and get all protective of their own sovereignty.

Will it be any different under EASA?

Wilco2

Hi - I would be most interested ti receive an update on this. I had laser surgery 18 months ago but as my right eye was -7.00 Dioptres before surgery the CAA say no chance of a class 1 even though I now have 20/20 with no complications. Thanks

shortarse_Yoda

Just stumbled across this forum whilst looking for info on whether the latern test has changed yet at the CAA for people who fail the plates. I have a C1 FAA with SODA I have not flown for 10 years. It seems that from what I read that there are several different latern tests depending on ehat country you go to. I have failed the UK CAA one but might pass one in say Holland BUT even if I did I would have to do the complete CPL or ATPL of the country that I took the medical in? As I understand it the CAA would not accept the medical as a basis to issue the CAA medical, BUT if I did the whole licence in Holland they would issue a CAA licence on the basis of my dutch licence - is this correct?

The reason I ask is that the differing standards of the CV test in different JAR countries might allow me to pass in one or other European country.

I'm in pretty much the same boat as a number of people in this thread and would like to know if my summary is correct. BTW Gatwick will have me on record as failing the latern test, twice - I got a retest as a favour from the chief pilot at an Airline I used to work for, but it doesn't change things the second time around!

Kindest regards to all.

SY

TelBoy

Interesting about the ROI - does anyone know what CV testing they do and has anyone failed in UK but passed in Ireland?

shortase_Yoda How long ago did you do your CAA tests? - was it before the JAA. I ask as I failed with the CAA 14 years ago and was wondering if I will have trouble getting a retest, I think they have some different tests now. Also have you an FAA CPL? any troubles because of the SODA?. Again I ask as I have an FAA SODA for any class medical and if all else fails will do my CPL the FAA way.

Anyhow I'm not doing anything before going to the City Uni next month and will probably be asking a whole load of questions then.

jdmackin

I guess my question will be a little different since I know my condition and that their is no cure.

I was blessed or cursed depending on how you look at it with amblyopia. Out of all the problems one can face with their eyes, mind is uncorrectable. However when both eyes are open I am 20/20. In the US this would allow me to recieve a class 1 certificate, but needs to be noted on my record and sent to me.

Besides the US is there any other place in the world that would allow me to be given a special clearence?