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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 19:51
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In some Eastern european countries it is hard to get a class 1 even with small corection..... I guess Americans' are much more relaxed. You can even get
class 3 if you are deaf.

Does anybody know a list of medical requirements for other European countries?
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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 19:56
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Originally Posted by norton2005
so what your saying is that as long as i can pass a FAA class 3, which is what you need they have told me, i should be fine?

o and jimmy, im greek cypriot, what part of greece you from?
What are vision requirements in Greece, and Cyprus?
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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 11:22
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Question New eyesight regulations?

Hey, anyone able to say if there are any new regulations with regarding eyesight requirements (and making it easier for people with less than perfect eyes like me to fly)? I read before there was a meeting scheduled for october 2006 to discuss it.... did anything come of it?

any idea on the timescale they'll be implemented and what the changes were? i have non-binoccular vision and have heard rumours of a guy in america being able to fly cargo planes in the US with that...

(sorry if this topic has been done to death)
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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 11:53
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World, It may be from there, but I don't live out there, I live in the UK, but Greece and Cyprus are both JAA countries, so i would assume that they are the same as they are here in the UK which is JAA also. Which is +5 to -6.
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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 16:33
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Originally Posted by MightyGem
Not sure which country you are from, but I think that you'll find that most Air Forces have far more applicants than they have vacancies for, so they can afford to say "Only the best will do".
Yes, but somebody that can correct their vision means that they see as well as the uncorrected persons.
If you get US or JAR class 3 (and PPL), does it mean that you can fly jet fighter (which is not military) in private purposes? Is there any private JF school in EU or USA?
I am from Croatia, but living in Serbia.
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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 19:43
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you are correct in your statement, these new regulations were fully implemented a couple of days ago on friday 1st december. The deviation route was also abolished, anyone on the deviaiton route already is fine they can carry on with it and now anyone who takes their medical from this friday just gone will no longer have that route available to them. i feel very relieved that i took my medical when i did. i have -7 correction and took my medical a month ago so im now on the deviation route, i shudder to think what if i didnt do my medical till this month it would have been really bad news. thank god.
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what is the maximum correction allowed in the military?
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 11:18
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In USA, I think its 20-70 uncorrected (about +-1 diopter).
In Canada, its 20-20 uncorrected.
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link above dosnt work
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Few weeks ago, I Phoned CAA at Gatwick asking if it was true that deviation would have been abolished by NPA 28 introduction starting from 1 december. They answered that IT WAS NOT TRUE AT ALL (!).

Now, I 've seen that deviation chance was amended (removed) from 1 Dec. 2006.
I'm very angry because of the loss of honesty of CAA. When I phoned them, it was better if they answered they knew nothing, instead of telling me that no modifications were to be introduced. I have been tricked by their reassurances and I didn't apply immediately to have the medical visit before the modification. Now, there are no chances any more.

Really disappointed...

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Anyone know for certain (with confirmation from the CAA) that the deviation route has been abolished, or whether current deviations are still safe? I can't find anything on the website, which is where the CAA advised they would post any changes, and also nothing within NPA 28, though I wasn't expecting to find anything there.

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thanks for that, do you know what the limit is in the UK?
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 12:52
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current deviations are safe as long as you had the medical before december 1st. anything from december 1st onwards will be told outside limits. i was told this by the head of the AME himself. he also said that the reason they have abolished deviations now is because with no renewal limits to base on how much deviation there can be, there could be someone of -12 for example trying to get a medical and that just can't be he said. so they have had to just remove it instead.
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 15:16
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When I looked in to joining the Royal Navy, they required visual acuity of 6/60 uncorrected and a maximum correction of 5 or 6 dioptres. That was for entry as an Engineering Officer. The requirements for Aircrew Officer were tighter still (2 or 3 dioptres maximum correction, I think). I didn't look at the requirements for ratings. I think the requirements for the RAF were similar.

Note that this was three or four years ago, and I can't remember all the details.

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Old 4th Dec 2006, 15:20
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I wrote to the CAA earlier today and specifically asked them whether the deviation route is still a possibility in light of FCL-28. I'm -4.0 astigmatism.
I'll let you know what they say.
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 19:59
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Originally Posted by norton2005
current deviations are safe as long as you had the medical before december 1st. anything from december 1st onwards will be told outside limits. i was told this by the head of the AME himself. he also said that the reason they have abolished deviations now is because with no renewal limits to base on how much deviation there can be, there could be someone of -12 for example trying to get a medical and that just can't be he said. so they have had to just remove it instead.
I havent understood what you ment here?
Did you meen that from 1 Dec the rules are relaxed?
If i havent had medical before 1 dec will that affect me?
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world: Read the Liberalizing medical requirements thread.
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Old 5th Dec 2006, 07:26
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Thanks G/A

The link doesn´t work as llanfairpg said..
I am looking for something more "official", JAA, CAA, etc.. on the
pass-failing procedures..
Anyway, it is very interesting to know about the lantern characteristics.
Looks easier than the Holmes-Wright, where you can fail "missnaming one colour" and then pass on the second round.
Any experience with Spectrolux? Can you missname on first round or make one mistake and still pass or pass it on a second round?

Regards..
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Old 5th Dec 2006, 08:29
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Originally Posted by LastMinute
When I looked in to joining the Royal Navy, they required visual acuity of 6/60 uncorrected and a maximum correction of 5 or 6 dioptres. That was for entry as an Engineering Officer. The requirements for Aircrew Officer were tighter still (2 or 3 dioptres maximum correction, I think). I didn't look at the requirements for ratings. I think the requirements for the RAF were similar.

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Ok, but 6/60 (20/200) is about 2 diopters, so it doesnt make sense that they will allow up to 5 diopters.

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Yes what i meant was from 1st december the requirements were relaxed. to -6 dioptres for initial that is, and unlimited for renewal.

What i meant aboutt he deviation is that before when the limitations were -5 for initial and -8 for renewal they had a back bone (-8) to base their deviations on. if you fell within initial and renewal you could get a short term deviation (obviously there were long term deviations aswell but thats a different story). so if you were between initial and renewal you got your deviation and then had it removed after as you did meet renewal standards for subsequent renewals. the reason they've had to abolish deviation now is because with the renewal limit gone, there isn't that same back bone as before to base on who they can give a deviation to and who they cannot. with unlimited renewal limit someone of very very high prescription could try to get a deviation. so to stop this flaw in the system wich would arise if deviations remained, they instead have just got rid of them. but in doin so they have given us an extra dioptre of initial if that is any consolation. i think it wouldn't be to much of a consolation because i already know 2 people who are outside of limits now but would have been able to get a deviation and it is very gutting for them.
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