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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 18:50
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 19:10
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contactower don't worry the next time will be better and good luck for your career!! never give up!! At this point I think I'm gonna have the same negative email too. It's just a matter of time....

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Old 4th Sep 2013, 06:03
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To CM175: This negative reply was for Cadet Programme. I have TR for A320 so this was probably the main reason for rejection. But I'm still waiting for reply to DEFO application.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 08:47
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What's wrong with this world? A fully qualified pilot, even with TR applies for cadet position. That's the best picture of where this industry is.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 12:40
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I don't have an ATPL Frozen so it doesn't directly touch me, and I actually red so well the description which you have posted above, that I was even more confused when rated applicants have been accepted during the application screening instead of being just rejected. When a recruitment team accepts applications where inside of it has been clearly stated that he/she is already a holder of an ATPL Frozen, in my world that means you suits to them and obviously he/she is going to catch the opportunity. Just my point of view.

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Old 4th Sep 2013, 13:02
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It seems a bit silly that someone who already has an fATPL would get so far in such a process. To the best of my knowledge, even if the airline wanted to - the fATPL pilot wouldn't be legally allowed to re-take all the tests starting from scratch.

Perhaps we haven't heard the whole story here, but clearly the fATPL guys should be going down the DEFO route only.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 20:35
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@ THE G-FORC3 yeah a bit silly, that's what I'm trying to say....no point to let them getting through the process and managed to even reach the interview step while applicants with no hours or experience have been rejected at the initial screening and its places took by rated applicants. By now what is done is done and I can say that I really enjoyed this experience whatever my outcome will be. This cadetship is still a huge opportunity for people out there, what I would like is that the next time a more professional initial screening should be absolutely done. Good luck to everyone.

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Old 7th Sep 2013, 21:28
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I still have nothing!
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 05:25
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In my opinion it is good that people with a commercial License, but whitout experience apply to this kind of cadetships. Because why would you train even more pilots when there are thousands of pilots with all kinds of experience out there.

We should stop training large numbers of pilots until the suitable people with a License have a descent job. Therefore it is good to see that the licensed applicants are taken seriously!
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We should stop training large numbers of pilots until the suitable people with a License have a descent job. Therefore it is good to see that the licensed applicants are taken seriously!
Right... So you're saying you think the industry should remain one where only the rich can get into it and those who can't afford to pay for their own training shouldn't get a chance?

Any scheme that is giving a chance to fly for those without the financial means to pay for the training is a step in the right direction. Aer Lingus, and any other airline out there, should be taking the best pilots based on their skills, not on whether they have the money to pay for a license themselves.

Anyone who thinks that it's bad that airlines are doing schemes for unqualified people clearly wants the industry to keep sinking further and further. Going by your logic, why should an airline hire a low experience person with a CPL, instead of going for the person that's paid to be on the right hand seat for more experience?
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 10:50
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While there is a lot of perfectly capable guys and girls who don't have the means to fund their training going for this scheme, EI are going to choose the candidates with the most corporate sology filled linkedIn profile they can find. Nothing to do with flying skill. Other airlines send ab-initios for flight grading they have to pass.

I'l say it again, EI are looking for future "managment" who wont rock the boat, not pilots.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 13:36
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With 20 cadets last year and 20 this year, that is a lot of management posts to fill..

I thought I saw somewhere that up to 75% of pilots at Aer Lingus came through the cadet scheme? Might not be so accurate now, but it was at one point.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 16:57
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Originally Posted by USA1pilot
In my opinion it is good that people with a commercial License, but whitout experience apply to this kind of cadetships. Because why would you train even more pilots when there are thousands of pilots with all kinds of experience out there.

We should stop training large numbers of pilots until the suitable people with a License have a descent job. Therefore it is good to see that the licensed applicants are taken seriously!
You're looking at it from your own perspective, look at it from Aer Lingus'. Taking on cadets allows them to mould pilots to the standard they want, and by paying for most of their training by way of bonded employment, they are guaranteed to retain those pilots for a minimum number of years which isn't possible with direct entry pilots.

There will always be a demand for DE pilots though due to the long lead in time to train new cadets, so it's not like cadets will ever replace the stream of DE pilots.

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Old 9th Sep 2013, 11:56
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USA1pilot: "We should stop training large numbers of pilots until the suitable people with a License have a descent job."

This wouldn't remotely reflect the training involved in any other industry. Anyone who wants to train to become anything can do so at their own expense if they want to. Who should deny them that right, irrespective of the job prospects? Try to persuade them that it might not be the best idea, by all means, but nothing more. And even if it were possible to legislate to prevent people from training to become pilots, who is this "We" that you speak of that should decide who gets to do it and who doesn't?
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Old 9th Sep 2013, 19:48
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Anyone have any idea why rejection emails appear to be going out intermittently? When my friend told me he'd been called for stage 3 I had pretty much resigned myself to the fact that I didn't get in. The fact that I haven't received the rejection yet is really toying with my emotions.
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Old 9th Sep 2013, 22:56
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Me too green dots. I really don't know what to do. Am getting to the point where I'm contemplating writing a firm email for an answer!
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Old 10th Sep 2013, 12:31
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is there someone who heas been invited to the third step?
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Old 11th Sep 2013, 10:01
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Thanks for the input.
FOGeelee, can you describe us quickly the content of the phase 3.
Is it only an interview with a psy ? or some other psychotest ?
Thanks
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Old 11th Sep 2013, 11:51
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Congratulations and good luck GeeLee, nice to know of the thousands who applied someone from the thread made it that far. Also thanks ctbrown92 for sharing that info. Still not too much to go on but hopefully it means everyone will at least know where they stand by the end of the month.
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Old 11th Sep 2013, 12:19
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I'm pretty sure that there's more than one from this thread that have made it through, but are keeping that to themselves due to the small numbers that have made it to this final stage.
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