So where are all the jobs then?
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Strobs, why didn't you ask for 8000h on type too
try here they need new people
http://www.jtfa.cn/en/gzjh.asp
try here they need new people
http://www.jtfa.cn/en/gzjh.asp
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I have worked for 4 companies. One company I never even applied to and was asked to interview and was hired on the spot. The other 3, I received a call the same day I applied (all within 2 hrs). My new company called me 1 hr after I applied and hired me over the phone on that first call. BIG MONEY to fly a CRJ tax free as an FO. How could I turn that down.
I think you guys just need me to prepare and send your resumes. I guess I have the majic touch.
I think you guys just need me to prepare and send your resumes. I guess I have the majic touch.
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I think you guys just need me to prepare and send your resumes. I guess I have the majic touch.
Did you spell as impressively on your CV as well?
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Hmm.. Before you jump on the guy, I'd point out he's in the States, where the commuter/regional market is booming. Also, Majic is an acceptable spelling in some regions.
Congratulations to you sir!
Congratulations to you sir!
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You the man
Hey with that name you make them a proposition they can refuse!
http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/
We are just mere earthlings.
http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/
We are just mere earthlings.
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Hi, sorry haven't read the whole thread but thought I'd share my experiences, I finished my MCC early June and start RHS on a jet next month.
I have 270hrs, i'm 29, I have a spanish IR and I trained multi stop modular, I have zero contacts in the industry and I've had an overall positive response from many companies and now a job within 3 months of finishing my training.
I'm by no means an exceptional candidate, but found a good well written cv and a nicely worded letter got me a reply most of the time.
There probably is an element of luck in there, but don't believe that contacts are the only way a low hour pilot will get his first opportunity, i've had that fed down my throat for the last two years and personally seen very little truth in it.
Just want to wish everyone the best of luck, you will get that job!
I have 270hrs, i'm 29, I have a spanish IR and I trained multi stop modular, I have zero contacts in the industry and I've had an overall positive response from many companies and now a job within 3 months of finishing my training.
I'm by no means an exceptional candidate, but found a good well written cv and a nicely worded letter got me a reply most of the time.
There probably is an element of luck in there, but don't believe that contacts are the only way a low hour pilot will get his first opportunity, i've had that fed down my throat for the last two years and personally seen very little truth in it.
Just want to wish everyone the best of luck, you will get that job!
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I'm following this thread for a while and have some few thoughts. It is correct that persistance is important, however.... at a certain point it stops. I'm also looking for a job for almost 3 years. Ok i had some interviews and sim rides but there was always 'something' why i did not make it. I was prepared to do anything. I don't care if it is TP or not. I just want to fly. Now i really believed that because of my persistance i would find something, but so far..."NO". I also agree with the fact that "self-pitty" does not help. But at a point it stops. What can one do? He/She explored everything but without any luck.
Now for me, i decided to go for my type at gcat. I'm practising for the assesment. Believe me, paying for my type was the last thing i wanted to do but there are no other options left.
Now for me, i decided to go for my type at gcat. I'm practising for the assesment. Believe me, paying for my type was the last thing i wanted to do but there are no other options left.
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Nooooo
That is a very BAD excuse INNER!
Every time a pilot pays for a TR... is the airlines sticking it up to all of us and in doing so the pilot sticking it up to us too.
IF now that the Companies need pilots, is a pilot market,the youngens are buying TR so they can skip straight to the airline (they are buying themselves a job) when this bubble bust, is a company market, we will see what the companies are going to pull..... Minimum wage for FO? with TR and why not you pay for everything, no per dimes... we will see. But I do not want to hear any of the "I buy myself a TR" people to complaint about it......
PM me and I get you a job, it might not the a 747 but a job!
Every time a pilot pays for a TR... is the airlines sticking it up to all of us and in doing so the pilot sticking it up to us too.
IF now that the Companies need pilots, is a pilot market,the youngens are buying TR so they can skip straight to the airline (they are buying themselves a job) when this bubble bust, is a company market, we will see what the companies are going to pull..... Minimum wage for FO? with TR and why not you pay for everything, no per dimes... we will see. But I do not want to hear any of the "I buy myself a TR" people to complaint about it......
PM me and I get you a job, it might not the a 747 but a job!
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hello,
Thx for your reply.
You have to admit: persistance has a limit. If you are looking for almost 3 years for a job, without any result, then at some point you have to do something. Where i live there are not much possiblities. I considered freelance work (taxi), aerial work but i always got a 'no' answer. The only thing i now do is flight seeing tours for a small company, unpaid.
I'm 31y old and i want to move on with my life. I think that a typerating at gcat will increase my chances on the job market. This company has a very good reputation and a lot of students got afterwards a job. Even people in their late 30'ies got a job. What else can i do?? Getting older and see that other people get a flying job?
Now, if you are saying you have a flying job for me, i'm always prepared to listen your proposal.
Best regards
Thx for your reply.
You have to admit: persistance has a limit. If you are looking for almost 3 years for a job, without any result, then at some point you have to do something. Where i live there are not much possiblities. I considered freelance work (taxi), aerial work but i always got a 'no' answer. The only thing i now do is flight seeing tours for a small company, unpaid.
I'm 31y old and i want to move on with my life. I think that a typerating at gcat will increase my chances on the job market. This company has a very good reputation and a lot of students got afterwards a job. Even people in their late 30'ies got a job. What else can i do?? Getting older and see that other people get a flying job?
Now, if you are saying you have a flying job for me, i'm always prepared to listen your proposal.
Best regards
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No
I have no FI rating. Two reasons i don't get this: first, the local flying clubs are full with instructors, a lot of 'would be instructors' are also looking for a position. Secondly i feel i don't have the skills to be a good instructor.(For me it is difficult to explain something in a good understandable way). And i think a good instructor is an instructor who loves to give instruction and not doing this because of the 'hour-building'.
I have no FI rating. Two reasons i don't get this: first, the local flying clubs are full with instructors, a lot of 'would be instructors' are also looking for a position. Secondly i feel i don't have the skills to be a good instructor.(For me it is difficult to explain something in a good understandable way). And i think a good instructor is an instructor who loves to give instruction and not doing this because of the 'hour-building'.
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Quick ways to succeed!!
I know how you feel but you can always start small and work your way up. Why not find the airlines that no-one has ever heard of. Small, regional airlines are always a good place to start. If you've got a type rating for a small aircraft, these airlines will throw themselves at you. Another good way to start is with start-up airlines. These guys usually don't have much money and if you get there first, you will have a very good chance of getting a job with them. It would also give you the oppertunity to maybe proceed up the ranks and stay with the airline for many years to come. Post a thread on the airlines forum and ask for any info on start-up airlines. I'm sure it will help!
Hope it all works out!
Hope it all works out!
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maybe he doesn't have a type rating to start, and most type ratings cost 30'000 euro dash8, or airbus...
this is why it is so difficult to start in this market, lot of money to invest for a lousy paid job.
this is why it is so difficult to start in this market, lot of money to invest for a lousy paid job.
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if people didnt pay for type ratings, no one would have to.
the problem with all the young sprogs today is that they have too much money and think that by purchasing themselves a job they will win in the end. unfortunately this is not the way it works.
its a viscious circle and it never stops. stop paying for the ratings and get trained by the airlines that want to employ you. these low cost carriers that are having accidents all over the place at the moment are having prangs simply because they are not making the right investment in their people. low cost means poor training. a sad but completely true fact.
stop paying for ratings and you will find that carriers will have to start paying for them.
the problem with all the young sprogs today is that they have too much money and think that by purchasing themselves a job they will win in the end. unfortunately this is not the way it works.
its a viscious circle and it never stops. stop paying for the ratings and get trained by the airlines that want to employ you. these low cost carriers that are having accidents all over the place at the moment are having prangs simply because they are not making the right investment in their people. low cost means poor training. a sad but completely true fact.
stop paying for ratings and you will find that carriers will have to start paying for them.
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the problem with all the young sprogs today is that they have too much money
low cost means poor training. a sad but completely true fact.
. The level of twaddle spouted on pprune these days is sadly on the rise, but you are really taking the twaddle spouting to new levels with this one. At best you are making an overwhelming and completely untrue generalisation. Tell me, which LCCs have you worked for, and therefore experienced this poor level of training in?
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Do not buy TR
People do not have a lot of money, I think the problem is that young kids prefer get in debt and get pay peanuts but have the "I am flying a 737" than work on small planes and go up in size slowly (without having to pay)
The only problem is that forces everyone to have a TR since the companies will exploit this "big time" like they are doing it right now.
Why do I need a MCC why do I need a TR why do I need a ATPL written. To fly a plane(and get pay) you only need the Commercial License.
Accidents, I am afraid we will see more and more soon. And thank God(or whatever entity you believe on, or just luck) they are flying planes that fly by themselves. Not like this weekend Thai disaster....
Get an FI license and learn a bit before anything else....... specially now that they pay is good (it will allow you to wipe out that debt in 1 year!) and there is plenty of FI jobs in the world.
The only problem is that forces everyone to have a TR since the companies will exploit this "big time" like they are doing it right now.
Why do I need a MCC why do I need a TR why do I need a ATPL written. To fly a plane(and get pay) you only need the Commercial License.
Accidents, I am afraid we will see more and more soon. And thank God(or whatever entity you believe on, or just luck) they are flying planes that fly by themselves. Not like this weekend Thai disaster....
Get an FI license and learn a bit before anything else....... specially now that they pay is good (it will allow you to wipe out that debt in 1 year!) and there is plenty of FI jobs in the world.
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ALways Moving, you provide some interesting commentary. However I must take issue with your last statement to get a FI rating and wipe out your debt within one year? I find the debt almost always dwarfs the income from salary.
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ive been fortunate enough never to have to work for a low cost carrier. ihave never paid for a TR and i never will.
the fact is you cant argue with statistics. since the low cost carrier model has appeared, they have consistently had a higher accident rate that their higher cost cousins.
you know its the truth, so why argue?
the fact is you cant argue with statistics. since the low cost carrier model has appeared, they have consistently had a higher accident rate that their higher cost cousins.
you know its the truth, so why argue?
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Always moving - I think its a bit disrespectful to the deceased and the pilots involved in the Thai disaster to start talking about type ratings, training and linking the two together.
The training provided by the LCCs certainly in the UK is excellent and I know first hand that they chop people who don't make the grade.
There is a time and place, but maybe not after a serious air accident.
The training provided by the LCCs certainly in the UK is excellent and I know first hand that they chop people who don't make the grade.
There is a time and place, but maybe not after a serious air accident.