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Hulk - weren't you recently exposed as a fantasist? One day you're an F/I, one day an F/O and the next you're asking for help with your 'meteo' exam?
Lika your Eenglish - it donna make sense.
Lika your Eenglish - it donna make sense.
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Some people's replies are just unbelievable. HULK you sound just like your name "big, dumb and very green".
If there are people out there that want to pay for line training and have the cash to part with, well good on them. It does not make them a crap pilot and that passengers should be worried. I am 100% sure Astraeus would not just do the line training because you have the cash. They have tons of customers to answer too.
Come on people, stop knocking others because they happen to want to get a head by there own means. I am still unemployed, even after doing the type rating with Astraeus but very happy that I have proved to my self and possibly other airlines that I am very capable of passing a tough type rating course and believe me wannabe's it is tough. Hard way to prove it but for some that's what we do to get ahead.
My only gripe is why are Ryan Air not looking at there Applications that have been entered online. We have paid our fifty squid, why can we not at least get back a reply to say Yay or Nay!
If there are people out there that want to pay for line training and have the cash to part with, well good on them. It does not make them a crap pilot and that passengers should be worried. I am 100% sure Astraeus would not just do the line training because you have the cash. They have tons of customers to answer too.
Come on people, stop knocking others because they happen to want to get a head by there own means. I am still unemployed, even after doing the type rating with Astraeus but very happy that I have proved to my self and possibly other airlines that I am very capable of passing a tough type rating course and believe me wannabe's it is tough. Hard way to prove it but for some that's what we do to get ahead.
My only gripe is why are Ryan Air not looking at there Applications that have been entered online. We have paid our fifty squid, why can we not at least get back a reply to say Yay or Nay!
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mad_dog,
Your reply kinda backs up all that is wrong with the Astraeus style of type rating course- if they don't take you on, you're out on a limb, waiting hopefully, for that elusive job. Ryanair seem to only select candidates who will subscribe to their TR system. Have Easy shown any interest, now that you're type rated?
Sadly, it seems to be, only do the TR course with an airline if you're pretty certain of getting a job with them at the end of it, and they are far and few between.
Your reply kinda backs up all that is wrong with the Astraeus style of type rating course- if they don't take you on, you're out on a limb, waiting hopefully, for that elusive job. Ryanair seem to only select candidates who will subscribe to their TR system. Have Easy shown any interest, now that you're type rated?
Sadly, it seems to be, only do the TR course with an airline if you're pretty certain of getting a job with them at the end of it, and they are far and few between.
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I worry if pilots have some other part time jobs to pay their loan back .
Fly all day, then work in a fast food does not make an airline safe, and I do not wish to fly with such airline who asks pilots to pay for their training.I would prefer to fly with some responsible pilots, not the one who are stuggling to get his jet hours.
For my part, yes, I am a foreign FI, ATP, but non JAA like 10'000 foreign flight instructors in this world who have never paid for a type.
Any pilot should send a letter to their local journal, and explain how safe are some airlines.
the average citizen still think we make lot of money, training paid,...and we have a great life...Astreaus is an ailine who LIES to his passengers .
I hope my message is clear!
Fly all day, then work in a fast food does not make an airline safe, and I do not wish to fly with such airline who asks pilots to pay for their training.I would prefer to fly with some responsible pilots, not the one who are stuggling to get his jet hours.
For my part, yes, I am a foreign FI, ATP, but non JAA like 10'000 foreign flight instructors in this world who have never paid for a type.
Any pilot should send a letter to their local journal, and explain how safe are some airlines.
the average citizen still think we make lot of money, training paid,...and we have a great life...Astreaus is an ailine who LIES to his passengers .
I hope my message is clear!
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Hulk - FI are you? How come on page 3 of this thread you posted this:
"I have just received a contract today by fax. airplane: EMB145, 2 years bonding .I do not have to pay anything. All is paid even the hotel for the 5 weeks training.
I just have to pass a basic interview
So, do not pay for your type."
Go away, you bigga bloody liar, innit.
"I have just received a contract today by fax. airplane: EMB145, 2 years bonding .I do not have to pay anything. All is paid even the hotel for the 5 weeks training.
I just have to pass a basic interview
So, do not pay for your type."
Go away, you bigga bloody liar, innit.
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jealous???
BTW, I am keeping my money .I am thinking to buy a house as I do not have to pay for a type rating.
I wish you the best to all of you.
BTW, I am keeping my money .I am thinking to buy a house as I do not have to pay for a type rating.
I wish you the best to all of you.
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I reckon Hulk is Ronchonner's latest incarnation...
I prefered all his guff about yellow tattooed dicks to this.
It was the same back then with Ronch - one second he was an FAA CFI, the next he was an FO on a Metroliner in the US, then next he was a wannabe in France.. etc. etc.
(If you're wondering what the hell I'm going on about, do a search in the old wannabes forum with the phrase 'yellow tattoo')
I prefered all his guff about yellow tattooed dicks to this.
It was the same back then with Ronch - one second he was an FAA CFI, the next he was an FO on a Metroliner in the US, then next he was a wannabe in France.. etc. etc.
(If you're wondering what the hell I'm going on about, do a search in the old wannabes forum with the phrase 'yellow tattoo')
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Tosh,
You are right in a sense, but at the end of the day that is what one has to do in order to move ahead of the rest. That is why I did it. Its a very big gamble and that is why I say if you have the cash then go for it. No guarentee!! Paying for line training to me is not a good thing and that is why I have not done it. Bond Aviation is a training organization and they have to some how make money but its a bit harsh to rule them out completely, I some how think the market is going this way.
I am sure you are right about Ryan air too. One would think that they would say "good another type rated pilot able to start tomorrow" but according to the main hiring chap the market is awash with 737 type rated pilots. Yet they are still recruiting fast and furious through the respect training schools.
What I cannot understand is why are airlines still taking on cadets etc (thru McApline)when there are tons of us out there who are very able to do the job they require? (even without a type rating)
I put my details on Eazy website about a month ago, but alas no reply. Obviously somebody in the industry is getting it wrong when they say that there is a shortage of 737 type rated pilots.
When it comes to paying for line training, I think that's when you have to ask yourself "when do I stop paying for training in a career that does not seem to want me?"
Age old saying of goal posts keep moving!!!
You are right in a sense, but at the end of the day that is what one has to do in order to move ahead of the rest. That is why I did it. Its a very big gamble and that is why I say if you have the cash then go for it. No guarentee!! Paying for line training to me is not a good thing and that is why I have not done it. Bond Aviation is a training organization and they have to some how make money but its a bit harsh to rule them out completely, I some how think the market is going this way.
I am sure you are right about Ryan air too. One would think that they would say "good another type rated pilot able to start tomorrow" but according to the main hiring chap the market is awash with 737 type rated pilots. Yet they are still recruiting fast and furious through the respect training schools.
What I cannot understand is why are airlines still taking on cadets etc (thru McApline)when there are tons of us out there who are very able to do the job they require? (even without a type rating)
I put my details on Eazy website about a month ago, but alas no reply. Obviously somebody in the industry is getting it wrong when they say that there is a shortage of 737 type rated pilots.
When it comes to paying for line training, I think that's when you have to ask yourself "when do I stop paying for training in a career that does not seem to want me?"
Age old saying of goal posts keep moving!!!
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Jealous foghorn???
I am not a metro pilot, and yes I flew in the USA.And you what are you?, the one still looking for a job since 1990.
BTW where is Ronch? Probably flying for Air France.
seriously, to answer to mad dog, there is a time you have to stop to pay. During some interviews in the past, I have said to the HR that I do not have money. It was well seen, I said I wanted to work for money and not pay to fly, why I was looking for a job.and I got the job!if in this case they had refused me, well, good for me, because I do not work for an airline who ask me to pay to work!
so do not give up guys!
I am not a metro pilot, and yes I flew in the USA.And you what are you?, the one still looking for a job since 1990.
BTW where is Ronch? Probably flying for Air France.
seriously, to answer to mad dog, there is a time you have to stop to pay. During some interviews in the past, I have said to the HR that I do not have money. It was well seen, I said I wanted to work for money and not pay to fly, why I was looking for a job.and I got the job!if in this case they had refused me, well, good for me, because I do not work for an airline who ask me to pay to work!
so do not give up guys!
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Hulk,
For someone who only registered in August 2003 you know a lot about Ronchonner, mon ami
He also changed his tune more often than a jukebox. There's a pattern somewhere....
You also don't know a lot about me - I was a mere slip of a lad and still in school in 1990 - it wasn't until the last year of the decade that I went anywhere near a light aircraft!
GAME OVER
For someone who only registered in August 2003 you know a lot about Ronchonner, mon ami
He also changed his tune more often than a jukebox. There's a pattern somewhere....You also don't know a lot about me - I was a mere slip of a lad and still in school in 1990 - it wasn't until the last year of the decade that I went anywhere near a light aircraft!
GAME OVER
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Hello guys,Im a wannabe....
I have question for all of you...why if Bond Aviation and Astraeus are two differents things,Mr Fulgoni is Chief Pilot of one and co-owner of the other?
Flyer
I have question for all of you...why if Bond Aviation and Astraeus are two differents things,Mr Fulgoni is Chief Pilot of one and co-owner of the other?
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mad-dog, how much did you pay for the type rating?
Good luck with your base check and think again about doing your line training. You can do it with some airlines for only 155USD per hour. Cheers.
Good luck with your base check and think again about doing your line training. You can do it with some airlines for only 155USD per hour. Cheers.
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Stealth
I paid nearly £19000.00 for my type rating. Big whack but it was well worth it. I cannot wait for the base training.
Flyer75
You need to get some business sense mate!!!
Astraeus and Bond are two seperate companies, yes they are affiliated but both offer different services even though they are in the same building. That is how they have to be treated. The fact of the matter is one helps the other by supplying pilots, so interm both companies are making money just differently. Astraeus flies the punters and Bond supplies the jockies. Now is that not a good business solution. They have seen there is a market and are trying to capture it.
People can moan and groan all the want. If you want to do the type rating then do it, else keep trying to get a job the normal way. There is two sides to a coin!!!!
Times are changing, that is why business (and airlines) have to adapt to the ever changing market. Its been around ever since Moses was playing scabble for Egypt.
Stealth, let me know those airlines too please!!!
I paid nearly £19000.00 for my type rating. Big whack but it was well worth it. I cannot wait for the base training.
Flyer75
You need to get some business sense mate!!!
Astraeus and Bond are two seperate companies, yes they are affiliated but both offer different services even though they are in the same building. That is how they have to be treated. The fact of the matter is one helps the other by supplying pilots, so interm both companies are making money just differently. Astraeus flies the punters and Bond supplies the jockies. Now is that not a good business solution. They have seen there is a market and are trying to capture it.
People can moan and groan all the want. If you want to do the type rating then do it, else keep trying to get a job the normal way. There is two sides to a coin!!!!
Times are changing, that is why business (and airlines) have to adapt to the ever changing market. Its been around ever since Moses was playing scabble for Egypt.
Stealth, let me know those airlines too please!!!
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Mad-dog,
Of course it was well worth it. I paid 20,000 Euros for the package including around 70 hours of line training. Yours was a little bit expensive but it is the only option under the JAA rules. The Australian authorities accept any ICAO type rating, so I was able to shop around.
Have you already paid for your base check?
Talk to the people from JAT Airways training centre. They might be able to help you.
They normally charge around 3500USD per hour for a base check and 155USD per hour for the line portion of your training.
Of course it was well worth it. I paid 20,000 Euros for the package including around 70 hours of line training. Yours was a little bit expensive but it is the only option under the JAA rules. The Australian authorities accept any ICAO type rating, so I was able to shop around.
Have you already paid for your base check?
Talk to the people from JAT Airways training centre. They might be able to help you.
They normally charge around 3500USD per hour for a base check and 155USD per hour for the line portion of your training.