Oxford Aviation Training (OAT) - Who has got a job?
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What a load of rubbish . . . who is this guy???
A320 Rider : For a total loser you are very entertaining.
I find it very interesting that you have both FAA and JAA licences yet are classing yourself as an integrated student.
Also your fellow students now fly for the Queen! I'm confused. The Queens flight is heralded at RAF Northolt and is flown by the RAF pilots of the 32 Squadron. I wasn't aware the RAF was that desperate for training they had to resort to French integrated schools.
As for the 99% of accidents coming from modular students pilot error . . . well for starters only approximately 70% are deemed to have pilot error as a significant cause. I suggest you look at the AAIB for further clarification or as previously suggested double your medication.
Your bland, obvious, innaccurate and laughable posts are indicative of why you will only ever get thousands of hours on Microsoft Flight Simulator . . . in fact I wonder if flight sim hours are the only ones you actually have.
I find it very interesting that you have both FAA and JAA licences yet are classing yourself as an integrated student.
Also your fellow students now fly for the Queen! I'm confused. The Queens flight is heralded at RAF Northolt and is flown by the RAF pilots of the 32 Squadron. I wasn't aware the RAF was that desperate for training they had to resort to French integrated schools.
As for the 99% of accidents coming from modular students pilot error . . . well for starters only approximately 70% are deemed to have pilot error as a significant cause. I suggest you look at the AAIB for further clarification or as previously suggested double your medication.
Your bland, obvious, innaccurate and laughable posts are indicative of why you will only ever get thousands of hours on Microsoft Flight Simulator . . . in fact I wonder if flight sim hours are the only ones you actually have.
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Originally Posted by A320rider
think 3 times before to enroll yourself in a school.
modular training is for the weekends' pilots, who do not care much about aviation except to impress his girlfriend.(or your boyfriend if you are homo)
we call them the flying losers, it is proven that 99% of aircraft accidents come from pilots' errors who have been modular trained and the CAA and the BALPA want get rid of these cheap trainings.
BTW,I still don't know why we call this a "training!"
in the other hand you have the real professionals like me, (and I am modest), the 100% dedicated to become a real professional. All BA pilots come from integrated schools.They are far better pilot that these "ultralights' pilots from modular training".This is why you will get an interview with the best of the airline(BA, KLM, LUFT,...).Some of my friends who have shared same training with me fly now for the Queen. They dont have even the time to write on PPRUNE.
so my question is: Where do you want be in 5 years?
How close of the reality you want be?
Do you want write Oxford on your CV?
Is your girlfriend ready for a threesome?
Are you not tired to ask stupid questions?
modular training is for the weekends' pilots, who do not care much about aviation except to impress his girlfriend.(or your boyfriend if you are homo)
we call them the flying losers, it is proven that 99% of aircraft accidents come from pilots' errors who have been modular trained and the CAA and the BALPA want get rid of these cheap trainings.
BTW,I still don't know why we call this a "training!"
in the other hand you have the real professionals like me, (and I am modest), the 100% dedicated to become a real professional. All BA pilots come from integrated schools.They are far better pilot that these "ultralights' pilots from modular training".This is why you will get an interview with the best of the airline(BA, KLM, LUFT,...).Some of my friends who have shared same training with me fly now for the Queen. They dont have even the time to write on PPRUNE.
so my question is: Where do you want be in 5 years?
How close of the reality you want be?
Do you want write Oxford on your CV?
Is your girlfriend ready for a threesome?
Are you not tired to ask stupid questions?
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To the Mods...isn't it about time we removed A320rider from this forum? His posts are starting to become irritating, childish and completely irrelevent to what is supposed to be a Proffessional pilots forum?
I for one am tired of his posts distorting, what are often genuine questions.
I for one am tired of his posts distorting, what are often genuine questions.
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a320rider more like "a320loser"
The modular guys have to take on real life commitments whilst ALSO learning how to fly. Coupled with the inflexible attitude of many training establishments who don't fly on the weekends so they normally have to book all the annual leave just for study and then beg their employer for unpaid leave (and that's if they have an understanding employer). The integrated students are great but we can't always have the optimum in life and does that mean because I can't afford a Ferrari I must walk to work?
This a320loser guy couldn't even win a moaners competition because he's be turned away at the entrance with the words "sorry mate no professionals"
The modular or integrated guy have to meet the same standards laid out by the authorities so if aircraft are crashing due to this aspect then aren't the authorities at fault? Additionally the training schools should then also come under the spot light for having irregular and below par training syllabuses? I don't think so , in fact the schools and authorities are fine because they have devised 2 routes to meet the same aim, that of a qualified pilot with competent skill levels.
Many of the courses in the US are modular and thousands of pilots graduate from that type of training every year so how come aircraft aren't falling out of the sky over there? In fact in a 'sue everyone' culture like in the US you'd think they would be even more cautious than us about having modular courses.
This is not an optimum world and we have to be flexible and innovative at every step and I can assure you that every one of those loser 'modular pilots' realise and understand the true worth of their training and the sacrifices they made they are just as good as anyone else. It's NOT the system, school or training environment that's the most influencial factor in pilot quality it's always been and always will be the PILOT'S INDIVIDUAL MOTIVATION they are the key to all training quality.
This a320loser guy couldn't even win a moaners competition because he's be turned away at the entrance with the words "sorry mate no professionals"
The modular or integrated guy have to meet the same standards laid out by the authorities so if aircraft are crashing due to this aspect then aren't the authorities at fault? Additionally the training schools should then also come under the spot light for having irregular and below par training syllabuses? I don't think so , in fact the schools and authorities are fine because they have devised 2 routes to meet the same aim, that of a qualified pilot with competent skill levels.
Many of the courses in the US are modular and thousands of pilots graduate from that type of training every year so how come aircraft aren't falling out of the sky over there? In fact in a 'sue everyone' culture like in the US you'd think they would be even more cautious than us about having modular courses.
This is not an optimum world and we have to be flexible and innovative at every step and I can assure you that every one of those loser 'modular pilots' realise and understand the true worth of their training and the sacrifices they made they are just as good as anyone else. It's NOT the system, school or training environment that's the most influencial factor in pilot quality it's always been and always will be the PILOT'S INDIVIDUAL MOTIVATION they are the key to all training quality.
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You gotta give it to 320loser, he amuses me!
For how much cr
p people give him, and he comes back for more! My dog is like that
Good one mate, we call always rely on you for a good laugh!
Seriously though, spinnygirl just about summed it all up.
For how much cr
p people give him, and he comes back for more! My dog is like that Good one mate, we call always rely on you for a good laugh!
Seriously though, spinnygirl just about summed it all up.
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sorry chaps, you are the losers!
and when I say "we", I am talking about the entire community of fighter and eavy jet pilots who come from Oxford.
We have been warned that some of you want ban us.
when I will pass in my jet at FL410, I will look down and think about you(modular training pilot) in your little piper!
and when I say "we", I am talking about the entire community of fighter and eavy jet pilots who come from Oxford.
We have been warned that some of you want ban us.
when I will pass in my jet at FL410, I will look down and think about you(modular training pilot) in your little piper!
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A320 It is quite obvious that you travel on Airlines where you can request which seat you sit on. Do you always ask for a window seat to allow you to look out. Its better than an isle seat so the grown ups don`t knock you when it`s time to get off.
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Originally Posted by A320rider
sorry chaps, you are the losers!
and when I say "we", I am talking about the entire community of fighter and eavy jet pilots who come from Oxford.
We have been warned that some of you want ban us.
when I will pass in my jet at FL410, I will look down and think about you(modular training pilot) in your little piper!
and when I say "we", I am talking about the entire community of fighter and eavy jet pilots who come from Oxford.
We have been warned that some of you want ban us.
when I will pass in my jet at FL410, I will look down and think about you(modular training pilot) in your little piper!
again you say "we". So if you are part of this fighter/heavy jet community why havn't you got a job or is it a big MS flight sim club in the job centre, can't your "entire community" help you meet contacts as you are so professional??
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A320 rider,
Just how many fighter pilots have been trained at Oxford? You really do talk a lot of nonsense.
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and when I say "we", I am talking about the entire community of fighter and eavy jet pilots who come from Oxford.
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couple of facts
My cousin is a Captain on an Air Canada Airbus and he went modular (training+ personal suffering ). My uncle is a Captain for a US major he also undertook modular. So have these guys missed something or does know nothing A320 is in his own dillusional world.
How many thousands more modular guys are flying for airlines around the world.
The only promotion a320's going to ever get is an add-on pack for MS flight Sim. Hey maybe he could become a consultant to Microsoft
How many thousands more modular guys are flying for airlines around the world.
The only promotion a320's going to ever get is an add-on pack for MS flight Sim. Hey maybe he could become a consultant to Microsoft
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Oxford Aviation training Who has got a job?
Hi Everyone,
Just out of curiousity. i finished as an Integrated Student at OAT in June 2005. Age 29. After tons of letters No response not a single interview. As soon as I left OAT, not a word from them either. Quite a few classmates were lucky and got an interview. But after a lot of promisses during training, still -0-. I have passed IR first time and have an 86% groundschool score alle 1st time passes.
Who else is in the same ****e after all these months. I read a lot of good things about OAT. But to be honest they have helped me with nothing. I am not a complainer to them, never have been while in training there. But they act like you have never been to there school. You would think they would help a little, you pay for it too as Integrated, my training was extended at my own costs because the Seneca's were mostly grounded for a long period we flew about once every 4 weeks. This costed me another 3 months extra on rent, food etc. You think a little help after that but zero, no compensation, no nothing. Should have done Modular!!!!!
WHO ELSE IS OUT THERE WITH THE SAME THING, I know a few guys from AP 237 who have the same experience. Would be interesting to know. Not here to wine just to warn others that it is not all as great as they want you to believe.
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Just out of curiousity. i finished as an Integrated Student at OAT in June 2005. Age 29. After tons of letters No response not a single interview. As soon as I left OAT, not a word from them either. Quite a few classmates were lucky and got an interview. But after a lot of promisses during training, still -0-. I have passed IR first time and have an 86% groundschool score alle 1st time passes.
Who else is in the same ****e after all these months. I read a lot of good things about OAT. But to be honest they have helped me with nothing. I am not a complainer to them, never have been while in training there. But they act like you have never been to there school. You would think they would help a little, you pay for it too as Integrated, my training was extended at my own costs because the Seneca's were mostly grounded for a long period we flew about once every 4 weeks. This costed me another 3 months extra on rent, food etc. You think a little help after that but zero, no compensation, no nothing. Should have done Modular!!!!!
WHO ELSE IS OUT THERE WITH THE SAME THING, I know a few guys from AP 237 who have the same experience. Would be interesting to know. Not here to wine just to warn others that it is not all as great as they want you to believe.
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I take it you were the last of the non APP Integrated Students? If so, what exactly are you expecting of them seeing that they didn't promise any employment support, or did they?
Met someone the other day who was also one of the last non APP students, guy spent just over £70k, and no hope of a job, then went on to do a FI rating, another £6k, got a job as an FI earning peanuts and was now contemplating a TR!
. ETA for paying of his loans? Around March 2016!
Met someone the other day who was also one of the last non APP students, guy spent just over £70k, and no hope of a job, then went on to do a FI rating, another £6k, got a job as an FI earning peanuts and was now contemplating a TR!
. ETA for paying of his loans? Around March 2016!
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Nope, fully APP. again not here to wine just want to know if there are others like me and what there options are. I am all out of options and money. So no self funded Type rating, another big gamble.
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SBAB why don't you contact Oxford directly and discuss your concerns. From your posting it would appear that communications have broken down.
Oxford frequently talk about their career advice person/people, so much so that they utilise it in their marketing material. I have no connections with Oxford, so I do not know what conditions/guarantees are outlined in your APP contract. An element of pro-activity is now required to try and find a mutually suitable solution to your frustrations. Now, if Oxford just tell you to go away and not to bother them again, then you might have to re-think.
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Oxford frequently talk about their career advice person/people, so much so that they utilise it in their marketing material. I have no connections with Oxford, so I do not know what conditions/guarantees are outlined in your APP contract. An element of pro-activity is now required to try and find a mutually suitable solution to your frustrations. Now, if Oxford just tell you to go away and not to bother them again, then you might have to re-think.
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Felix Saddler,
That can happen to anyone. Not everyone from integrated courses gets interviews/recommendations from their FTO. They often have to search for jobs themselves. The employment statistics on the FTO's websites also includes those who sorted jobs for themselves. And where you trained makes no difference when you're on your own looking for jobs.
That can happen to anyone. Not everyone from integrated courses gets interviews/recommendations from their FTO. They often have to search for jobs themselves. The employment statistics on the FTO's websites also includes those who sorted jobs for themselves. And where you trained makes no difference when you're on your own looking for jobs.