Oxford Aviation Training (OAT) - Who has got a job?
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So they don't count in employemt stats now your telling me?!?!
They still had to do interviews and apply just like the rest of us, it was a "conditional" job offer meaning they have to meet the criteria set by the airline to still qualify for the job. All 6 did and ticked the boxes as stated in my previous post and hence why they have jobs!!
You've stated a fact there so what point exactly are you trying to make?!
At the end of a day a job is a job - There are only a fixed number of places on each course so the more sponsored students the better!
Just wait til the Netjets kicks in - 32 students this year then potentialy 48 next year. Thats not on top of the usual intake and course that run!
They still had to do interviews and apply just like the rest of us, it was a "conditional" job offer meaning they have to meet the criteria set by the airline to still qualify for the job. All 6 did and ticked the boxes as stated in my previous post and hence why they have jobs!!
You've stated a fact there so what point exactly are you trying to make?!
At the end of a day a job is a job - There are only a fixed number of places on each course so the more sponsored students the better!
Just wait til the Netjets kicks in - 32 students this year then potentialy 48 next year. Thats not on top of the usual intake and course that run!
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confidence inspiring stuff
Reading the OAT posts is really confidence inspiring. Can i ask where you giys are based and have you simply packed up and gone were the jobs are?
An past graduate of OAT told me that in the past they provided you with a maximum of 3 job offers through the college (If you refuse a job 3times, tehy leave you on yoru own to look)
Im loking at OAT for next year. I currently work in Cambridge, am finishing my final year of uni next year (no im not at Cambridge uni') then hopefully commencing training.
I realise all the colleges and airlines are in the South, but do many people get jobs up North? When im back home a job at manchester or Liverpool would be idyllic. Sadly im sure it doesnt work like that in the real world!
An past graduate of OAT told me that in the past they provided you with a maximum of 3 job offers through the college (If you refuse a job 3times, tehy leave you on yoru own to look)
Im loking at OAT for next year. I currently work in Cambridge, am finishing my final year of uni next year (no im not at Cambridge uni') then hopefully commencing training.
I realise all the colleges and airlines are in the South, but do many people get jobs up North? When im back home a job at manchester or Liverpool would be idyllic. Sadly im sure it doesnt work like that in the real world!
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Plenty of airlines out of manchester and liverpool. Should be possible.
"An past graduate of OAT told me that in the past they provided you with a maximum of 3 job offers through the college (If you refuse a job 3times, tehy leave you on yoru own to look)"
The dont have to provide you anything, they try and assist in looking for the jobs. To get three job offers would be well, amazing
"An past graduate of OAT told me that in the past they provided you with a maximum of 3 job offers through the college (If you refuse a job 3times, tehy leave you on yoru own to look)"
The dont have to provide you anything, they try and assist in looking for the jobs. To get three job offers would be well, amazing
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Personal Experience
Just a few lines about what i experienced at OAT.
OAT got me from A-Z via the modular route, in hindsight i would probably go there again since the training was top notch, training standards were high, tolerances were restrictive which undoubtedly made me a better pilot, staff were helpful, i met a few interesting albeit entertaining people and made a lot of friends.
Regarding career help i didnt get any(i was modular), other than CV help and occasional correspondence with advice and updates from N.M.(a true gentleman), having said that i know a few APP guys who got recommended to the majors even though they had a 2nd series pass and you wouldnt want to spend a minute stuck in a ''tin can'' with them, while other APP Grads who had exceptional results are still waiting.
Highlighting the fact that there still is a hint of nepotism when it comes to the recommendations board.
OAT did include My recent employment in their web page statistics, even though i got it through my sheer determination, however i have no problem with that since they do have a disclaimer in full view.
I doubt that having OAT on my CV helped in me securing a job, however going there surely instilled in me some basic principles, techniques and airmanship which i found really helpfull in subsequent interviews, checkrides and day to day flying.
As i said OAT was and probably still is a great school and it is a business at the end of the day, your outcome depends on what your attitude is like and how you deal with people and situations.
OAT got me from A-Z via the modular route, in hindsight i would probably go there again since the training was top notch, training standards were high, tolerances were restrictive which undoubtedly made me a better pilot, staff were helpful, i met a few interesting albeit entertaining people and made a lot of friends.
Regarding career help i didnt get any(i was modular), other than CV help and occasional correspondence with advice and updates from N.M.(a true gentleman), having said that i know a few APP guys who got recommended to the majors even though they had a 2nd series pass and you wouldnt want to spend a minute stuck in a ''tin can'' with them, while other APP Grads who had exceptional results are still waiting.
Highlighting the fact that there still is a hint of nepotism when it comes to the recommendations board.
OAT did include My recent employment in their web page statistics, even though i got it through my sheer determination, however i have no problem with that since they do have a disclaimer in full view.
I doubt that having OAT on my CV helped in me securing a job, however going there surely instilled in me some basic principles, techniques and airmanship which i found really helpfull in subsequent interviews, checkrides and day to day flying.
As i said OAT was and probably still is a great school and it is a business at the end of the day, your outcome depends on what your attitude is like and how you deal with people and situations.
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Easy to find a job after OAT?
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I can't seem to find this answer anywhere so please don't get upset ! The question i want to ask is how easy is it to find a job after finishing OAT? How long did it take people who have done the course? Many Thanks
I can't seem to find this answer anywhere so please don't get upset ! The question i want to ask is how easy is it to find a job after finishing OAT? How long did it take people who have done the course? Many Thanks
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I get the feeling from the way you have asked this question, that you think that training with OAT will increase your chances of getting an airline job.
I know students who have been to OAT and have gotten jobs within weeks of qualifying.
I also know OAT students who are still looking for jobs a year after finishing their training.
In the above paragraph, you can change the name of the school to any other one that you wish and the statements will still hold true.
Having OAT on your CV may help with some employers but not all.
There are other factors too. For example, how you come across at interview. I have sat in on airline interviews in the past where I have seen very highly qualified fATPLs fail selection because of how they came across. Some were deemed arrogant, some didn't look the part, others gave the wrong impression in other ways.
For some trainees, it is easy to get a job after training - for others it is a struggle. The majority of the successful ones are "right place, right time". Others have people on the inside who can point them in the right direction.
Lots of jobs also come from "recommendation" by another pilot who knows you, or has trained with you.
Your choice of school is not the be all and end all of getting you a job.
Farrell
I know students who have been to OAT and have gotten jobs within weeks of qualifying.
I also know OAT students who are still looking for jobs a year after finishing their training.
In the above paragraph, you can change the name of the school to any other one that you wish and the statements will still hold true.
Having OAT on your CV may help with some employers but not all.
There are other factors too. For example, how you come across at interview. I have sat in on airline interviews in the past where I have seen very highly qualified fATPLs fail selection because of how they came across. Some were deemed arrogant, some didn't look the part, others gave the wrong impression in other ways.
For some trainees, it is easy to get a job after training - for others it is a struggle. The majority of the successful ones are "right place, right time". Others have people on the inside who can point them in the right direction.
Lots of jobs also come from "recommendation" by another pilot who knows you, or has trained with you.
Your choice of school is not the be all and end all of getting you a job.
Farrell
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May I ask how you are qualified to comment on the likelihood of getting a job, after training with OAT?
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As the topic states 'who's got a job', I thought I'd reply that I recently got a job via Oxford. Time between finishing and start selection was 6 weeks.
A stat; 72% of 3 full classes (incl mine plus 1 above and 1 below) have got a job before their graduation ceremony! With a high number doing selection as we speak. The number of jobs that were arranged through OAT was very high. Don't have the exact number.
Not bad if you ask me...
A stat; 72% of 3 full classes (incl mine plus 1 above and 1 below) have got a job before their graduation ceremony! With a high number doing selection as we speak. The number of jobs that were arranged through OAT was very high. Don't have the exact number.
Not bad if you ask me...