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"Earl
Dont have a clue what you are speaking of Denuge.
If Storpik has an issue maybe he can share with us all here.
But since he never worked for Midex that may be a problem".
So again I will ask you Earl, you are there? You tell us what the real story is!
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Dont have a clue what you are speaking of Denuge.
If Storpik has an issue maybe he can share with us all here.
But since he never worked for Midex that may be a problem".
So again I will ask you Earl, you are there? You tell us what the real story is!
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Things are the same but we hope it will improve.
The 10 on and 3 off is hard for people with families and some had to leave because of this.
The 10 on and 3 off is hard for people with families and some had to leave because of this.
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Earl
Off topic I suppose - sorry.
I ran into an 'Earl' who is/was an FE for Midex in Paris when I was doing the A300 sim late last year. He looked at my iPod, then bought one.
I just wondered if he was you. Please disregard.
Good luck.
In this financial climate, needs does as needs must. Every month you get paid, is another month you get paid. Simples.
Ignore the carpers, they're not worth the effort. It's a choice, work until you don't have/want to anymore.
I ran into an 'Earl' who is/was an FE for Midex in Paris when I was doing the A300 sim late last year. He looked at my iPod, then bought one.
I just wondered if he was you. Please disregard.
Good luck.
In this financial climate, needs does as needs must. Every month you get paid, is another month you get paid. Simples.
Ignore the carpers, they're not worth the effort. It's a choice, work until you don't have/want to anymore.
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Hi Earl
Hi Earl, look hope is a good thing!!!....I hope I will win 50 gadzillion in the lottery....but I don`t think it`s realistic.
Regarding working for your fine outfit or not, I don`t think it matters. It`s apperant for anyone it`s not looking to good. But I wish you all the best!......
Regarding working for your fine outfit or not, I don`t think it matters. It`s apperant for anyone it`s not looking to good. But I wish you all the best!......
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Hello Guys,
Just quick update.
Recently I heard that there were about four sets of crew joining Midex (ie 4 Capts, 4 F.Os and 4 F/Es) (not sure about exact figures), what happened to them.
Also the same question, Whats the status on Mumbai and Karachi flights?
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Just quick update.
Recently I heard that there were about four sets of crew joining Midex (ie 4 Capts, 4 F.Os and 4 F/Es) (not sure about exact figures), what happened to them.
Also the same question, Whats the status on Mumbai and Karachi flights?
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No place for anyone with intelligence.
Well this is factual and truth to say the least. Several First Officer from the B747 fleet have left the company for what appears to be a typical trait on how employers in the Middle East treat their employees. The majority of the professionals which accepted the contract lived up to their commitment and completed the missions expected of them with alacrity. People will continue to leave this company and several will accept a contract offered only to realize the only end of it honored will be the person accepting it. I caution anyone looking to travel overseas to join a company in the practice of holding it's employees hostage for pay.
Many more crews will head for the door approaching the end of this year. Many have been sent home while the only B747 in the fleet is in Amsterdam for maintenance. I could only guess they will not be paid for the month and weeks the aircraft is out of service but this is not just a hunch, it certainly has been confirmed by individuals which have not been paid or have only received half of their salary for the month of August. I will have more posts/replies in the coming days. Take this as food for thought, avoid this company as if a terminal disease.
Many more crews will head for the door approaching the end of this year. Many have been sent home while the only B747 in the fleet is in Amsterdam for maintenance. I could only guess they will not be paid for the month and weeks the aircraft is out of service but this is not just a hunch, it certainly has been confirmed by individuals which have not been paid or have only received half of their salary for the month of August. I will have more posts/replies in the coming days. Take this as food for thought, avoid this company as if a terminal disease.
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The real story
teardrophold69 and the rest
I just spoke to a long time friend that is working as an FE on the 74 for Midex.
I have known this man for 11 years and he is beyond reproach, he is also an ex-Air Force One engineer. The story that he told me is quite different than most of what I have read on this thread. Yes you have to work for 10 weeks in a row, but the money is decent and he has been paid on time every time. He is given a round-trip ticket home after his 10 week work period, and then has 3 weeks off. The 3 B.R. apartment that he has been given to live in is very nice and paid for. So listen to the RUMORS if you want, this is the real story. Working as an ex-pat is completely different than most aviation jobs. If you are not willing to accept the conditions, don't take the job!
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I just spoke to a long time friend that is working as an FE on the 74 for Midex.
I have known this man for 11 years and he is beyond reproach, he is also an ex-Air Force One engineer. The story that he told me is quite different than most of what I have read on this thread. Yes you have to work for 10 weeks in a row, but the money is decent and he has been paid on time every time. He is given a round-trip ticket home after his 10 week work period, and then has 3 weeks off. The 3 B.R. apartment that he has been given to live in is very nice and paid for. So listen to the RUMORS if you want, this is the real story. Working as an ex-pat is completely different than most aviation jobs. If you are not willing to accept the conditions, don't take the job!
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Did good ol' AF1 mention that:
--...we travel both directions as part of our "OFF" days?
--...the tickets they get us to the US from Dubai are typically on Delta, which leaves at 10:30-11:00 at night, meaning that we have burned nearly one entire "OFF" day just waiting to leave the country? Meaning that we actually get more like 2-1/2 weeks truly "OFF," not 3 weeks?
--...the company randomly changes the pay/per diem/contract conditions to suit their whim?
--...most of the pilots here signed a three year CONTRACT before joining which stated a 5 weeks working/3 weeks off schedule (barely tolerable to families in the first place), but which the president of the company unilaterally changed to the present 10 weeks schedule...with the admonition of "if you don't like it, leave?"
--...the company WITHHOLDS pilot pay when they are on their leave or otherwise out of the UAE, even when the pay is legally due per the contract? Even though the pilots are being paid for the PREVIOUS month (i.e. work they have already done), and not being paid for the month that is to come? And that the only way to have the pay "released to the bank" when the pilot returns is to literally "show his face" at the office to the schedulers to PROVE he is back in the country?
--...no attention is paid to legal rest requirements, causing continual fatigue and probable violation of regulations?
--...several of the so-called "dispatchers," schedulers, and other office staff were hired, in large part, because they were friends of one of the higher-up Indian managers and have no experience whatsoever in their respective jobs, causing great stress and extra workload for the flight crews?
Just sayin'.
--...we travel both directions as part of our "OFF" days?
--...the tickets they get us to the US from Dubai are typically on Delta, which leaves at 10:30-11:00 at night, meaning that we have burned nearly one entire "OFF" day just waiting to leave the country? Meaning that we actually get more like 2-1/2 weeks truly "OFF," not 3 weeks?
--...the company randomly changes the pay/per diem/contract conditions to suit their whim?
--...most of the pilots here signed a three year CONTRACT before joining which stated a 5 weeks working/3 weeks off schedule (barely tolerable to families in the first place), but which the president of the company unilaterally changed to the present 10 weeks schedule...with the admonition of "if you don't like it, leave?"
--...the company WITHHOLDS pilot pay when they are on their leave or otherwise out of the UAE, even when the pay is legally due per the contract? Even though the pilots are being paid for the PREVIOUS month (i.e. work they have already done), and not being paid for the month that is to come? And that the only way to have the pay "released to the bank" when the pilot returns is to literally "show his face" at the office to the schedulers to PROVE he is back in the country?
--...no attention is paid to legal rest requirements, causing continual fatigue and probable violation of regulations?
--...several of the so-called "dispatchers," schedulers, and other office staff were hired, in large part, because they were friends of one of the higher-up Indian managers and have no experience whatsoever in their respective jobs, causing great stress and extra workload for the flight crews?
Just sayin'.
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Lots of other jobs available
I Love Midex
Did good ol' AF1 mention that:
--...we travel both directions as part of our "OFF" days?
Yes he did, we do at Atlas as well, and at Evergreen and Kalitta I am told also.
--...the tickets they get us to the US from Dubai are typically on Delta, which leaves at 10:30-11:00 at night, meaning that we have burned nearly one entire "OFF" day just waiting to leave the country? Meaning that we actually get more like 2-1/2 weeks truly "OFF," not 3 weeks?
Better than no job at all isn't it? I am sure they would have no problem with you up-grading your ticket at your expense to a more convenient time.
--...the company randomly changes the pay/per diem/contract conditions to suit their whim?
He did not mention this and if it is the case it sucks!
--...most of the pilots here signed a three year CONTRACT before joining which stated a 5 weeks working/3 weeks off schedule (barely tolerable to families in the first place), but which the president of the company unilaterally changed to the present 10 weeks schedule...with the admonition of "if you don't like it, leave?"
See my title to this post
--...the company WITHHOLDS pilot pay when they are on their leave or otherwise out of the UAE, even when the pay is legally due per the contract? Even though the pilots are being paid for the PREVIOUS month (i.e. work they have already done), and not being paid for the month that is to come? And that the only way to have the pay "released to the bank" when the pilot returns is to literally "show his face" at the office to the schedulers to PROVE he is back in the country?
I questioned him about this because of the posts here and he denied it.
--...no attention is paid to legal rest requirements, causing continual fatigue and probable violation of regulations?
Again this sucks, what can I say.
--...several of the so-called "dispatchers," schedulers, and other office staff were hired, in large part, because they were friends of one of the higher-up Indian managers and have no experience whatsoever in their respective jobs, causing great stress and extra workload for the flight crews?
Has always been this way for the non majors unfortunately
da_frog
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r u storpikk hidden by a different nik?
if not u should take a break too!
I have no idea who Storpikk is other than having read his posts here. As you can see by my profile, I did not just join yesterday. As I am sure you all have heard many times before, If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Did good ol' AF1 mention that:
--...we travel both directions as part of our "OFF" days?
Yes he did, we do at Atlas as well, and at Evergreen and Kalitta I am told also.
--...the tickets they get us to the US from Dubai are typically on Delta, which leaves at 10:30-11:00 at night, meaning that we have burned nearly one entire "OFF" day just waiting to leave the country? Meaning that we actually get more like 2-1/2 weeks truly "OFF," not 3 weeks?
Better than no job at all isn't it? I am sure they would have no problem with you up-grading your ticket at your expense to a more convenient time.
--...the company randomly changes the pay/per diem/contract conditions to suit their whim?
He did not mention this and if it is the case it sucks!
--...most of the pilots here signed a three year CONTRACT before joining which stated a 5 weeks working/3 weeks off schedule (barely tolerable to families in the first place), but which the president of the company unilaterally changed to the present 10 weeks schedule...with the admonition of "if you don't like it, leave?"
See my title to this post
--...the company WITHHOLDS pilot pay when they are on their leave or otherwise out of the UAE, even when the pay is legally due per the contract? Even though the pilots are being paid for the PREVIOUS month (i.e. work they have already done), and not being paid for the month that is to come? And that the only way to have the pay "released to the bank" when the pilot returns is to literally "show his face" at the office to the schedulers to PROVE he is back in the country?
I questioned him about this because of the posts here and he denied it.
--...no attention is paid to legal rest requirements, causing continual fatigue and probable violation of regulations?
Again this sucks, what can I say.
--...several of the so-called "dispatchers," schedulers, and other office staff were hired, in large part, because they were friends of one of the higher-up Indian managers and have no experience whatsoever in their respective jobs, causing great stress and extra workload for the flight crews?
Has always been this way for the non majors unfortunately
da_frog
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r u storpikk hidden by a different nik?
if not u should take a break too!
I have no idea who Storpikk is other than having read his posts here. As you can see by my profile, I did not just join yesterday. As I am sure you all have heard many times before, If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Lots of other jobs available? Have you been in a coma for some time or something? I have a few thousand hours in different models of the 747. Get me a job at Atlas. After all, there are lots of jobs available! It is completely disingenuous to just tell someone to "get another job." Virtually no one would be at Midex, save for those in "sunsetting" jobs like PFE, if there were jobs anywhere else. Most people who are working here are either unable to leave because of their age or crew position, or are biding their time until there actually are other jobs available. A pilot could always go to work a contract job in, say China. IF that pilot has a type rating in a plane like a 777, or an A330/340, AND at least 500PIC hours in that plane (or more). AND wants to move to the country in which the contract is offered. Anyone who is flying as a Captain in one of those planes and meets the qualifications is likely in the top 50% of seniority (or higher) in their present job, and is in no danger or being furloughed or etc. Why would they leave to fly a contract? That leaves pilots like those at Midex, who are current in one or another old airplane, not operated anymore by modern companies or pax airlines. Perhaps I should buy my own A340 type rating, and then pay for 500 hours in the plane?
The sad thing is that several people here, myself included, would stay for the length of the contract if the company would only live up to the terms it offered in the first place instead of changing them to suit their mood on any particular day. This company is a start-up, and all start-ups have teething problems and growing pains. Unfortunately the company takes the usual Mid-East attitude about workers (that they are slaves to be taken advantage of) and figures they can do whatever they want, contract be damned. As soon as there are any decent jobs available, Midex will find their flight crew ranks vacant. Several have already left, some of whom didn't even have a new job waiting. They were simply sick of the treatment and lies from the company, and the time away from their families was unbearable.
Also, if your friend denied that we are not paid when we are on our leave, he is flatly lying. Ask any pilot here whose pay has been withheld while on leave, including me. Including several who were in Brussels at the sim on payday (on COMPANY time) and STILL were not paid until they returned to the UAE.
Lots of other jobs available? Have you been in a coma for some time or something? I have a few thousand hours in different models of the 747. Get me a job at Atlas. After all, there are lots of jobs available! It is completely disingenuous to just tell someone to "get another job." Virtually no one would be at Midex, save for those in "sunsetting" jobs like PFE, if there were jobs anywhere else. Most people who are working here are either unable to leave because of their age or crew position, or are biding their time until there actually are other jobs available. A pilot could always go to work a contract job in, say China. IF that pilot has a type rating in a plane like a 777, or an A330/340, AND at least 500PIC hours in that plane (or more). AND wants to move to the country in which the contract is offered. Anyone who is flying as a Captain in one of those planes and meets the qualifications is likely in the top 50% of seniority (or higher) in their present job, and is in no danger or being furloughed or etc. Why would they leave to fly a contract? That leaves pilots like those at Midex, who are current in one or another old airplane, not operated anymore by modern companies or pax airlines. Perhaps I should buy my own A340 type rating, and then pay for 500 hours in the plane?
The sad thing is that several people here, myself included, would stay for the length of the contract if the company would only live up to the terms it offered in the first place instead of changing them to suit their mood on any particular day. This company is a start-up, and all start-ups have teething problems and growing pains. Unfortunately the company takes the usual Mid-East attitude about workers (that they are slaves to be taken advantage of) and figures they can do whatever they want, contract be damned. As soon as there are any decent jobs available, Midex will find their flight crew ranks vacant. Several have already left, some of whom didn't even have a new job waiting. They were simply sick of the treatment and lies from the company, and the time away from their families was unbearable.
Also, if your friend denied that we are not paid when we are on our leave, he is flatly lying. Ask any pilot here whose pay has been withheld while on leave, including me. Including several who were in Brussels at the sim on payday (on COMPANY time) and STILL were not paid until they returned to the UAE.
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Not always what it seems
I love Midex “Lots of other jobs available? Have you been in a coma for some time or something?”
That was supposed to be a bit of sarcasm my friend, calm down a little, it’s bad for your blood pressure.
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That was supposed to be a bit of sarcasm my friend, calm down a little, it’s bad for your blood pressure.
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Hi there,
Lots of pro's & cons i.e long way from the US, but at least paid in $!, can anyone tell me the routes and any extras paid -- per diuem's etc?
I heard only had 1 tired old 200F and sims done on a shoe string in BRU, but there are always 2 sides to a story as here (USA) companies are now taking CV's but this outfit maybe need people for only a short time contract that would all get back in the saddle. any pro's & con's welcome
Lots of pro's & cons i.e long way from the US, but at least paid in $!, can anyone tell me the routes and any extras paid -- per diuem's etc?
I heard only had 1 tired old 200F and sims done on a shoe string in BRU, but there are always 2 sides to a story as here (USA) companies are now taking CV's but this outfit maybe need people for only a short time contract that would all get back in the saddle. any pro's & con's welcome
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I would like to echo everything that I Love Midex has said. He only touched on the tip of the iceburg though. Midex has many other problems that run deep and probably can only be cured by a complete change of upper management. Take it from those of us who actually work here.
Assuming your pay is correct and on time, which is a stretch. There are NO routes and no contracts. The entire airline has no become a poorly managed charter airline. Days of sitting around waiting for the call to go to work. Coupled with no rosters and no specified days off as required by the GCAA. The Doc had long touted the coming India routes and so much business thay he was turning it way on a daily basis. In only a way the doc can, he managed to have a signed contract self-destruct and now plays second string to the Russian operators. Go have a look at the Midex website, it is 90% lies. There are very few pros here and overwhelming cons. I can say, I regret leaving another job to come here. Many others, actually most, feel the same way.
No such thing as a short term contract here. If you try to leave before your first year is up, they will try to stick you with a bill in excess of $8000USD even if you are still current a qualified on type. Not to mention a few guys they have fired over the past year and did not pay their back wages or buy the airline ticket back to their home country, which is required by UAE law. One individual even had the company go into his local bank account and withdraw all the money that was available after he was terminated. My advice is to stay far, far away form this place.
Lots of pro's & cons i.e long way from the US, but at least paid in $!, can anyone tell me the routes and any extras paid -- per diuem's etc
this outfit maybe need people for only a short time contract that would all get back in the saddle. any pro's & con's welcome
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jobs?!!!
Hi, in answer to your point, no one hiring (yet?) but unlike last year several companies (DC8's & B727) out of miami are taking CV's rather than not.
Midex, I was wondering to get current again --10 weks away along time, so wondered how many a/c and per diiem rate (daily or block hour?) and where do they fly to? this job maybe Ok for 6 months; comments are not good but this could be used as a stepping stone--thought's?
Midex, I was wondering to get current again --10 weks away along time, so wondered how many a/c and per diiem rate (daily or block hour?) and where do they fly to? this job maybe Ok for 6 months; comments are not good but this could be used as a stepping stone--thought's?
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Hi,
any information is great (good or bad), we all know fore-armed is forwarned!; however in our twilight years it is always better to know most of the picture than guess; I have not heard from them since their advert but maybe will write when I can see a bit more of the picture--with only 1 classic(limets flying etc) paid per dieums -by block hour or what etc etc this ACMI etc,
on Saying that several B727 outfits here don't always pay and bend the rules! (some may say what rules!!!!!!!!!!!)
Be safe all
any information is great (good or bad), we all know fore-armed is forwarned!; however in our twilight years it is always better to know most of the picture than guess; I have not heard from them since their advert but maybe will write when I can see a bit more of the picture--with only 1 classic(limets flying etc) paid per dieums -by block hour or what etc etc this ACMI etc,
on Saying that several B727 outfits here don't always pay and bend the rules! (some may say what rules!!!!!!!!!!!)
Be safe all
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Well, what's up with AG leaving and F/E DM taking up his position as Director Ops, (3rd office he would be holding)???
Things gonna go better with this???
CBAFIL
Things gonna go better with this???
CBAFIL