Capt Package
Basic (All in HKD)
>3000 PIC JET 50,000 >1500 PIC JET 40,000 Housing Allowance - 15,000 :{ A330 Aircraft Allowance - 20,000 :p Flight Allowance 75 hrs - $700 per hr >75 hrs - $1000 per hr :ok: Aircraft & Flight Allowance payable only when operational :bored: |
So you get USD $16,000 for flying 76 hours?? No way!!?? Some people who got fired before the "demise" will get really fooking jealous.
:} Flew with them to BKK recently.. very pleasant flight attendants, pilots sounded very professional/friendly on PA, very very smooth landing and surprisingly they left and arrived on time and in the correct airport! :ok: 2 thumbs up! :ok::ok: |
Hong Hong Express jobs, payscales and entry requirements.
hi guys, this is what i have found on the net, how it helps. their management is still a mess, not just a mess, is a HUGE mess.... but i am confident that they will still be able to survive for sometime, unless any unexpected huge financial crisis hits China. Their mother company, the Hainan group is loaded with tons of cash... their pilots, assume that the attached pay scale is correct, i believed (in my iponion) many experienced pilots, particularly from the pacific rim region are willing to join. however, will to join doesnt mean it's a great company or consider as a long term career. |
SIM evaluation 2010 B737-800 ??
which type of simulator are they HKA using for sim evaluation during an interview day (2010 interview) It was B737-300 in 2006. How about 2010 this year.
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Can anyone advise how long will the training period take in HKA 330...
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Company
TOTAL PACKAGE USD (net) Annual leave Consecutive days off each month free tickets to home country HKE HKA (737) 9129 16 days (plus12 days public and statutory holidays, see COS) Maximum 3 DDO consecutive if you put in a roster request as per roster dept policy. NONE Air china (737) 11000 28 7 consecutive most months 7 international return p.a Air India Express (737) 10300 28 14 consecutive every 2 months 6 international return p.a ANA (737) 18000 30 11 consecutive a month 12 confirmed a year Asiana (737) 11500 30 16 consecutive every 2 months 8 confirmed p.a plus 18 i.d 90 Cathay Captain (A330) 17450 42 Average has at lease one block of 7 days. confirmed ticket for entire family Dragonair (narrow body) 18000 70 not commuting but expect a block of 7 days off. confirmed ticket for entire family Fly Dubai (737) 12500 42 not commuting but expect a block of 5 days off. confirmed ticket for entire family Hainan (737) 11800 30 (paid extra 9800USD if pilot wishes to sell holidays back to the company) 7 confirmed ticket for entire family JAL express (737) 12240 20 14 days every 2 months 6 confirmed return tickets p.a Korean Air (737) 10360 24 11 consecutive per month 12 confirmed business class p.a Metrojet(light jet) 14200 42 Expect roster with 7 days consecutive a month confirmed ticket for entire family Pacific Airlines Vietnam (737) 9500 42 not commuting but expect a block of 5 days off. confirmed ticket for entire family Shanghai Airlines (737) 13000 21 14 days every 2 months confirmed ticket for entire family Shenzhen Airlines (737) 13000 34 not commuting but expect a block of 4 days off. confirmed ticket for entire family Singapore airlines (A330) 14000 42 Expect a block of 5 consecutive. confirmed ticket for entire family Skymark (737) 12800 20 9 consecutive each month confirmed business ticket each MONTH Qantas (737) 11600 42 not commuting but expect a block of 7 days off. N/A Jet airways (737) 9700 15 14 consecutive every2 months confirmed ticket for entire family Deer Air (A320) 11833 30 14 consecutive every 2 months free on Network, unlimited i.d 75 Tianjin (Emb 190) 10625 30 not commuting but expect a block of 4 days off. not sure probably Oman Air (737) 11000 30 not commuting but expect a block of 6 days off. Staff travel on Hainan Silk Air (A319) 14200 30? not sure confirmed ticket for entire family 278608 AVERAGE (not inc hke/a) 12664.00 · These are Captains contracts. All are narrow body contracts besides Cathay and Singapore which were included for location comparison. · Companies used in this survey were random companies currently hiring. They were not chosen for there high salary and represent a good comparison of aircraft type and geographic location. · These figures are not fiction; they are fact and can be verified by viewing the various pilot contracts from the various employment agencies. · All companies listed are in the Asia pacific area and 2 from the Middle East . All companies do similar flying to Hong Kong Express and Airlines. · Annual leave is separate to consecutive days off. If a company allows consecutive days off it is in addition to annual leave. · When consecutive days off are given to the pilot, they are free, not a combination of DDO and annual leave. For example Asiana pilots would get 6 lots of 16 consecutive days off per year, PLUS 30 days annual leave. · Total package includes net salary, housing and completion bonus only, other benefits such as loss of license insurance, schooling, good health cover,15% provident fund etc, are in most cases given but not included in this calculation for simplification. · Salary/package is AFTER tax. · *If hourly pay is part of the package this survey is based on 60 hours a month. · Almost all companies above provide EXCELLENT 5 star accommodation on layovers, with the exception of the Hainan group, HKE/HKA, and perhaps Shenzhen Airlines. · *Crew hotels are usually chosen carefully as companies realize that staff satisfaction is important and so is good health and rest. These Hotels usually serve western food at the hotel with a room service option for those 1 am arrivals. Hotels have at least 1 English TV channel but usually 10 or more, unlike Hong Kong Airlines and Express provided hotels which have no English speaking channels. I ask you would you be satisfied personally with a hotel that only served really bad food from Iceland (say pickled Herring) and the only language on television was Iranian or something you did not understand? Because that is my life every time I stay at one of our hotels. · Hotel usually located in a good location with option to eat at western style restaurant near the hotel. At most Hong Kong Airlines and Express locations they only have local restaurants of questionable quality in the area. One KFC or McDonalds a 10 minute walk away does not qualify as a "western restaurant" · Overnight allowances in most contracts above is double that given Hong Kong Express and Airlines. · Many of these packages are here just for reference and actually bring the average of all salaries down. I.e. Indian contracts which can not even compare to Hong Kong cost of living. · Our companies only provide 16 annual leave days per year. Not 28 as most people think. (12 of the 28 are public and statutory holidays. They are included in annual leave giving a total of 28. See section 4.2 of our conditions of service(COS) · Hong Kong Airlines and Express are the only companies in this survey that do not offer free travel home each year. · Good provident funds pay 10% of salary. Several contracts pay this and up to 15% of basic salary. Our company does contribute extra compared to Hong Kong minimums but it low compared to the average of the airlines. · To our package up to the average of this survey would require at least 40% PAY RISE. · Hong Kong according to several surveys is the most expensive city in the world for expatriates to live, even higher than Tokyo for housing. We are Expatriates. No locals. · As Singapore , Hong Kong and Tokyo have similar high costs of living, the average salary for airlines in these cities is $15,111 USD net · *Hong Kong Airlines and Express current salary would require a 78% payrise to equal the average net salary for “high cost cities.”. ANA (737) 18000 Cathay first year Captain (A330) 17450 Dragonair (narrow body) 18000 Metrojet(light jet) 14200 JAL express (737) 12240 Singapore airlines (A330) 14000 Skymark (737) 12800 Silk Air (A319) 14200 120890 AVERAGE net salary 15111.25 *Average excluding widebody operators is $14,906 The info above has been circulating around for a few months so that HKA/HKE captains could compare their contracts with other airlines. |
Finally
Well its finally happened,
Ronal Lim has been terminated from HKA, how this useless prick kept his job for so long is a mystery to many, looks like his luck finally ran out. I wonder who will be next. For those interested his farewell drinks will be held in a yet to be decided phone box. good bye and good riddance XOP's........ The only way to operate......... |
the next must be this 2 grd managers, his d good CathyC & the fking Edwar Chg!! M
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opening champagne
celbrating, so wen mr fukching is next to get terminated?
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Hrs
bedwet EC u not do yr job, bus skipper all over 100/28day:= !! M
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hahahah bedwet EC, serves him right, he muzt be shipting his pants now
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Hey Guy's, for the sake of us oldies with a few hours under our belt, could we cut down on the Mobile SMS and go back to good old fashion words :ok:
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Hapiness Is Not Yet Complete
To finalize the pack we need Madam Wu and Cawboy Ricky on the same way....STREET !!!!!:ok::ok::ok:
Congrats HKA pilots!!! Part of the trash was already removed!! |
Facts :ok:
Captain salary 65,000 Co-Pilot 45,000 * included in this amount is 15,000 which is at company discretion. They have and will in the future change this any time they wish with no consultation with you. If you love minimum rest trip away from home; you will Love HKA. Come to work for HKA if you love the following.
Still want to come to HKA? Before making the move, come to Hong Kong see the rents at 30,000 a month, and read all this info here which is still valid. The company is sub-standard. The management are making no steps to listen to pilot suggestions on how to improve morale and conditions. Do you really want to associate yourself with that? You can do better. Good luck |
Its really a hell place you are working for ?!
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changi.prison is 101% correct and I 102% agree with him. HKA still has a long way to go, with the remaining crap still inside.
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and the buck doesnt stop there, they also advertised on the HKG Labour Department website. Why, vbecause its free, now they are flooded with resumes from KMB, Airbus, Newbus, any driver with a bus licence
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A330 LH flights
I heard that the A330 crew already flew exceed HK law of max allow, true or not ?
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they do things like walking on a wire and the HK limitation is very hard to bust. what they did to deal with the crew shortage was doing o/n SVO in the past 2 months and continue to offer short term contract for pilots from Airbus. this may also is the reason for so many cancelation of their early morning BJS service. they were busted once by the HKCAD of allowing all airbus crew to operate the flight on their behalf, in short, no HKA a330 pilots onboard.
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and the buck doesnt stop there, they also advertised on the HKG Labour Department website. Why, vbecause its free, now they are flooded with resumes from KMB, Airbus, Newbus, any driver with a bus licence |
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