13th Month
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From: china
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: uk
Its ok the 13th month is safe. No Penalty (probably)!
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Hong Kong
LOL i heard KA captains did extremely well last year with 13 month overtime etc....heard paychecks > 300k....but CX Captain.....no money for you again this year.....and no JCR....well done. Time to start packing or striking
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Hong Kong
No extra 13th month PF payment
It's not just the bonus it's the extra PF contribution we lose. No one seems concerned about that but it is still our money. Even if they pay a full ex gratis payment, no PF contrib. related to that.
That's been the case for
last few times.
That's been the case for
last few times.
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: 1st Floor
You should stop typing and extoll the virtues of collaboration with your peers. Stop trying to create a mutiny from your keyboard. No one will follow. Well may be Trafalgar. But then he’s still in CX after 20 years right ? ��
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From: Blighty
Regards KA, there’s alot of chat every year about letting go of the KA COS based “ chinese new year bonus” ( fwiw 13th month) for an 8% pay adjustment .KA crew would then revert to the discretion 13th month CX may ( or may not) receive.
Joined: May 2002
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From: Fragrant Harbour
You guys know that the CX and KA Master seniority lists will be merged next year. Right? DS will be meeting with the company later this year to discuss details.
Wonder if the unions will merge to one as well.
Wonder if the unions will merge to one as well.
Joined: Jun 2002
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Eden Valley
typical attitude. You still won’t get your bonus, wont earn any flt pay the month you are sick, and like CX give a sh1t if you take your sick leave or not.
You should stop typing and extoll the virtues of collaboration with your peers. Stop trying to create a mutiny from your keyboard. No one will follow. Well may be Trafalgar. But then he’s still in CX after 20 years right ? ��
What's it to you Krone?
As soon as there's a whiff of industrial peace at CX, the blow-torch is coming your way. And keyboard warriors just like you from the CX side will flame divisiveness. So how about seeing the chessboard a few moves on and stop being a clown.
And do you really think an airline doesn't care about a high levels of absenteeism? Especially when tactical in nature which hurts the most in efficiency? Or an aggrieved career captain cares about losing a month of duty pay when they are probably finding some mental health respite from a toxic work environment?
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: Australia
Is the KA list in order of DOJ? Because the CX one isn't, it's a mess, in another genius stroke of divide and conquer by CX they had to get there dirty little fingers into it rather than standard practice of DOJ so any merger will no doubt lead to infighting and CX winning by the AOA having to negotiate with CX as a result.
Joined: Oct 1999
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From: Up there
Just create a single bloody list based on DOJ and tag each crew as CX or KA, you want transparency then DOJ it is, it's the backbone of a seniority system, then let the union's not the company come to a solution that's agreeable for the future, negotiating with the company only ends up in a reduction of terms. Perhaps then stuff like vacancy bidding can come to fruition without the seniority list screwing it up and again leading to negotiation with the company. Wrestling with a pig comes to mind.
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From: uk
Just create a single bloody list based on DOJ and tag each crew as CX or KA, you want transparency then DOJ it is, it's the backbone of a seniority system, then let the union's not the company come to a solution that's agreeable for the future, negotiating with the company only ends up in a reduction of terms. Perhaps then stuff like vacancy bidding can come to fruition without the seniority list screwing it up and again leading to negotiation with the company. Wrestling with a pig comes to mind.
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From: uk
Sorry KA but your travel seniority is DOJ and that is how CX will manage the conversion of seniority lists. This also applies to cabin crew remember so licence dates are irrelevant.