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Just did a trip,
Was very friendly on bus, joked etc. Flight had about 100 pax on it so I said to the ISM because of the light loading I was inviting any 2 crew to come up and experience the take off and landing. 10 minutes later she comes back and says "Everyone says no"
Nice CRM huh?
I thought it particularly rude!
Was very friendly on bus, joked etc. Flight had about 100 pax on it so I said to the ISM because of the light loading I was inviting any 2 crew to come up and experience the take off and landing. 10 minutes later she comes back and says "Everyone says no"
Nice CRM huh?I thought it particularly rude!
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Just did a trip,
Was very friendly on bus, joked etc. Flight had about 100 pax on it so I said to the ISM because of the light loading I was inviting any 2 crew to come up and experience the take off and landing. 10 minutes later she comes back and says "Everyone says no" Nice CRM huh?
I thought it particularly rude!
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Forget bout it, just treat them like the lepers that they think you guys are?
And judging from whats been said before, any girls that go up there likely will get ostracized and treated like *hit by the ISM and others. Who would want to go ?
Sad.
Just did a trip,
Was very friendly on bus, joked etc. Flight had about 100 pax on it so I said to the ISM because of the light loading I was inviting any 2 crew to come up and experience the take off and landing. 10 minutes later she comes back and says "Everyone says no"
Nice CRM huh?I thought it particularly rude!
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Forget bout it, just treat them like the lepers that they think you guys are?
And judging from whats been said before, any girls that go up there likely will get ostracized and treated like *hit by the ISM and others. Who would want to go ?
Sad.
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Obviously a lot of the girls in the cabin dont give a f... and a rats ass about anything but their overnight allowances. The new honkies aged around 21 are on a louzy 3 years contract - why would they care whether the cognac comes on the side or goes into the coffee. They simply do not care - and how would they know - its not noodles. Cathay Pathetic will never again receive - the worlds best airline rewards - its been mis-managed. Pure and simple.
One must wonder how it all ever got so much out of control. Its a sad, sad story and setup Cathay Pacific management has managed to create.
I am happy I did not have to witness the nasty 00-01' pilot despute and even more happy not having to witness the next one.
One thing you gotta credit CX for - they have managed to mis-manage allround - and not just here and there. Full credit on that.
One must wonder how it all ever got so much out of control. Its a sad, sad story and setup Cathay Pacific management has managed to create.
I am happy I did not have to witness the nasty 00-01' pilot despute and even more happy not having to witness the next one.
One thing you gotta credit CX for - they have managed to mis-manage allround - and not just here and there. Full credit on that.
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"Same Team, Same country, Same f
g nightmare"
I think you need to hire from outside hK to get rid of this "HK dream team cabin crew" there are alot of girls from south of HK does a better job. than "the dream team". Thai, malay, indo, etc BUT NOT singaporean girls
(Sorry).
Guys.. especially "coded-message" forget inviting chinese girls to the cockpit as many have stated they actually dont give a ass about cockpit visits..if you want to be thanked about cockpit visit give the visit to a PAX. I invited a few, two fell asleep as I rotated out of KL. all they are concern with is the label (nission or maggi) on there MSG load noodles and there superstar status on the people (non-crew) below them, no interest in flying...a few actually stated "ain't you job boring, just sitting there doing nothing" BUT actually the non-chinese crew do thanked us for the jumpseat everytime we offered to them and funny enough they actually want to questions about the switches, levers and not forgetting the all time favourite trim wheel..as it spins.
As you can guess I am not a lover or fan of chinese crew, especially Cabin crew.
g nightmare"I think you need to hire from outside hK to get rid of this "HK dream team cabin crew" there are alot of girls from south of HK does a better job. than "the dream team". Thai, malay, indo, etc BUT NOT singaporean girls
(Sorry).Guys.. especially "coded-message" forget inviting chinese girls to the cockpit as many have stated they actually dont give a ass about cockpit visits..if you want to be thanked about cockpit visit give the visit to a PAX. I invited a few, two fell asleep as I rotated out of KL. all they are concern with is the label (nission or maggi) on there MSG load noodles and there superstar status on the people (non-crew) below them, no interest in flying...a few actually stated "ain't you job boring, just sitting there doing nothing"
BUT actually the non-chinese crew do thanked us for the jumpseat everytime we offered to them and funny enough they actually want to questions about the switches, levers and not forgetting the all time favourite trim wheel..as it spins.As you can guess I am not a lover or fan of chinese crew, especially Cabin crew.
Just from my short time in cx, this is a little observation from a local point of view....For the local cabin crews, couple of reasons they don't wanna talk to pilots.....
1.this mainly lies with the junior ones. They are just being scared of becoming the centre of bitching session about throwing themselves at boys, tho most of the ones who have worked for more than 2-3 yrs couldn't give a rat ass about what other ppl says. One could not imagine the seniority mindset down the back, and this is just among BCs. I was soo surprised with the way some of them talk about BCs more junior to them, seems like they expect more respect from the new BCs than some Capts ask of us......
2. This is mostly reason why they don't want to talk to the expats, they are just not prepared or don't want to change language... I know you lots may say, this is the airline industry and it's an english based industry... but u have to agree english is not their first language and in many cases in their daily lives, they don't use it at all...Being a local, everytime when someone came in when the Capt/FO went to the loo, the girl who came in is always willing to chat....
Some of them are interested in what we do and despite the fact we all hate the company about cost cutting, I have actually been told us sitting up the sharp end are the last thing cx is still worth travelling with, which kinda says at least we're still getting some respect from them down the back, even if it's minimal....
1.this mainly lies with the junior ones. They are just being scared of becoming the centre of bitching session about throwing themselves at boys, tho most of the ones who have worked for more than 2-3 yrs couldn't give a rat ass about what other ppl says. One could not imagine the seniority mindset down the back, and this is just among BCs. I was soo surprised with the way some of them talk about BCs more junior to them, seems like they expect more respect from the new BCs than some Capts ask of us......
2. This is mostly reason why they don't want to talk to the expats, they are just not prepared or don't want to change language... I know you lots may say, this is the airline industry and it's an english based industry... but u have to agree english is not their first language and in many cases in their daily lives, they don't use it at all...Being a local, everytime when someone came in when the Capt/FO went to the loo, the girl who came in is always willing to chat....
Some of them are interested in what we do and despite the fact we all hate the company about cost cutting, I have actually been told us sitting up the sharp end are the last thing cx is still worth travelling with, which kinda says at least we're still getting some respect from them down the back, even if it's minimal....
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Whatever!
Fact is, the girls work hard for very little pay...certainly less than they are worth. If you are polite and treat them with the respect they deserve they will return as such.
With the occasional exception...like pilots....they are a good bunch!
Just be nice....and accept they don't all want to sleep with you.
Fact is, the girls work hard for very little pay...certainly less than they are worth. If you are polite and treat them with the respect they deserve they will return as such.
With the occasional exception...like pilots....they are a good bunch!
Just be nice....and accept they don't all want to sleep with you.
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Despite all the shot being fired here about the realtionship between flight deck and cabin crews I am pleased, as pax, that none of it showed and that the cabin service on CX250, 23/5, CX171, 24/5, CX170, 7/6 and CX255 11/6 was above reproach. Friendly, efficient and capable were you all. Thanks passed to the ISMs concerned ... Vera, Candice and Kemmi, (sorry CX170, I did not get your name.
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Flight deck performance was beyond reproach too ... expecially the very wet landing of CX170 at HKG. What was the problem with the nose-wheel steering ... anyone know?
)Flight deck performance was beyond reproach too ... expecially the very wet landing of CX170 at HKG. What was the problem with the nose-wheel steering ... anyone know?
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Besides girls
I understand your problem and feel for you..
Besides that could you tell me if Cathay is worth applying to as an Airlines with good qualities of life, carreer, up-grade time etcs...
Thanks.
Besides that could you tell me if Cathay is worth applying to as an Airlines with good qualities of life, carreer, up-grade time etcs...
Thanks.
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"Recently did a flight, was on the bus and as the girls came on after us we all said "hi." Well about 5 (all locals) just blatantly ignored us. By the 3rd one I'd had enough so stood up and very loudly (in a joking way) said "hi" with a big smile and put my hand out to them, they looked lost! I joked and said why you not saying hello to us? Do we smell? and laughed. All of the girls who had ignored us didn't even smile and just sat on their mobile phones chatting. Utter rudeness."
an Alan Partridge moment
"Recently did a flight, was on the bus and as the girls came on after us we all said "hi." Well about 5 (all locals) just blatantly ignored us. By the 3rd one I'd had enough so stood up and very loudly (in a joking way) said "hi" with a big smile and put my hand out to them, they looked lost! I joked and said why you not saying hello to us? Do we smell? and laughed. All of the girls who had ignored us didn't even smile and just sat on their mobile phones chatting. Utter rudeness."
an Alan Partridge moment
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Glad to read someone had a +ve experience with CX.
I have stopped flying on CX. The service is mediocre and in my experience has degraded in the last 12 years that I have been flying on CX.
Typical HK attitudes, no brains, follow a set menu of options and if you try and deviate from it you get the response "cannot". Unbelievable.
Sticking to Gulf, Qatar and Air NZ for the long hauls now.
Sorry CX you lost my loyalty and business (and first) travel dollars through poor service and attitude - simple as that.
I have stopped flying on CX. The service is mediocre and in my experience has degraded in the last 12 years that I have been flying on CX.
Typical HK attitudes, no brains, follow a set menu of options and if you try and deviate from it you get the response "cannot". Unbelievable.
Sticking to Gulf, Qatar and Air NZ for the long hauls now.
Sorry CX you lost my loyalty and business (and first) travel dollars through poor service and attitude - simple as that.
... Vera, Candice and Kemmi..
No doubt there are many a CX CC member called Candy, Bambi, Suzie, Queenie, Annie, Maggie, etc.
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How about Cindrella,Melon and Gassy?
By the way you guys are starting to sound really desprate -think of how this thread is being perceived by them.My advise -Don't give a rats ass!!
By the way you guys are starting to sound really desprate -think of how this thread is being perceived by them.My advise -Don't give a rats ass!!
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Here is a great site that has a good summary of 'local' western names. Very Amusing...
http://www.bigwhiteguy.com/tea/names.php
http://www.bigwhiteguy.com/tea/names.php