how Many are leaving ??
k ups, I am still here!
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From: Vancouver. BC Canada
Everyone makes errors. The idea is not to let that error rattle you so that you make further errors.
You may make a 3 or worse during a checkride, but look at that as an opportunity for a 5 on error recovery.
You have moved on though, so why not enjoy your own green grass and stop pissing on ours?
You may make a 3 or worse during a checkride, but look at that as an opportunity for a 5 on error recovery.
You have moved on though, so why not enjoy your own green grass and stop pissing on ours?
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Hong Kong
what the hell was this thread about?
Oh yes, why they were leaving....
Some people are going for more money at UPS some returning to former employers. As the idea of being based back in their home country was more appealing. Some didn't get along with some of the trainers. Some had family issues. I have actually spoken to some of them.
Yes it is a bit different here. Doesn't mean it isn't possible to enjoy it (although reading the stuff here would make you doubt it). It is also not for everybody. It is different than working back in your home country. Different culture than other airlines too. But it works just fine for many, not so well for others.
Some things could certainly be improved, but that can be said about most airlines.
Oh yes, why they were leaving....
Some people are going for more money at UPS some returning to former employers. As the idea of being based back in their home country was more appealing. Some didn't get along with some of the trainers. Some had family issues. I have actually spoken to some of them.
Yes it is a bit different here. Doesn't mean it isn't possible to enjoy it (although reading the stuff here would make you doubt it). It is also not for everybody. It is different than working back in your home country. Different culture than other airlines too. But it works just fine for many, not so well for others.
Some things could certainly be improved, but that can be said about most airlines.
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: europe
do not believe N.C. !
Training in CX is absolutely terrible, degrading, unfair and simply ridiculous. the vast majority would agree on that ( especially FO's) , no doubt at all.
anyone interested in joining should really get as much information as possible before making a decision, I personally would not do the move twice.
Training in CX is absolutely terrible, degrading, unfair and simply ridiculous. the vast majority would agree on that ( especially FO's) , no doubt at all.
anyone interested in joining should really get as much information as possible before making a decision, I personally would not do the move twice.
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From: Holding somewhere.....
From an outsider looking in......... it's unbelievable fellas. Cannot believe that adults sling mud at each other like it has been going on through out this thread. Certainly alot of handbags being thrown (with the mud attached)!!!
C'mon can the topic not resume it's initial title...'how many are leaving???'
If you hate the place leave....if you love it......stay....if you have to throw your handbags at each other then open another thread and bash CX, it's training, it's SOP's, it's Captains...and whatever else, to your hearts content. Amazing really and you claim to be professionals!!!
Ummm really sucks!!!
Better duck, cos I can see a handbag flying my way!
"Confotare esto vir"..................
C'mon can the topic not resume it's initial title...'how many are leaving???'
If you hate the place leave....if you love it......stay....if you have to throw your handbags at each other then open another thread and bash CX, it's training, it's SOP's, it's Captains...and whatever else, to your hearts content. Amazing really and you claim to be professionals!!!
Ummm really sucks!!!
Better duck, cos I can see a handbag flying my way!
"Confotare esto vir"..................
Last edited by beechbum; 3rd March 2007 at 07:32.
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From: here, there, everywhere
No matter who's closer to the truth here, this mud flying around is to say the least disturbing (for a new joiner wannabe) - I think it has to do with the general atmosphere in the company?
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From: HKG
I have to say that whereas there are a few poor trainers and checkers it is a small proportion and about the same proportion as in my previous life in a bigger airline. The difference is in thestar chamber system that does not seem to have any balancing oversight.
I would say 90% of pilots go through their career in CX without any major hiccups, only minor ones that ensure you stay on the ball.
Standing by for incoming!!
I would say 90% of pilots go through their career in CX without any major hiccups, only minor ones that ensure you stay on the ball.
Standing by for incoming!!
Joined: Jun 1999
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From: Oztrailia
Just home from another wonderful trip on the mighy 777. God I love this job We had a good, safe, relaxing fun time out in the real world. The FO said he never reads PPrune, I wonder why??????
Time for all of you ex Cx types to get on with your lives in whatever place you find yourselves in. !!!!ting on our parade has not worked, we actually enjoy it here. So please leave us alone. You can't change the past , so try to change your future. Something you might actually have a little control over.
regards to all.
We had a good, safe, relaxing fun time out in the real world. The FO said he never reads PPrune, I wonder why??????Time for all of you ex Cx types to get on with your lives in whatever place you find yourselves in. !!!!ting on our parade has not worked, we actually enjoy it here. So please leave us alone. You can't change the past , so try to change your future. Something you might actually have a little control over.
regards to all.
Joined: Aug 2002
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From: Northern Europe
ACMS:
I´m an outsider looking in and I simply can´t understand why you are so obsessed with selling your version of Cathay as the only true version.
Why is it you can´t accept that other people have a different opinion? In one of your previous posts you made it sound like you were being persecuted by other posters when in fact you started the whole thing with your remarks about yanks, UA and the like.
And why are you so obsessed with telling everyone what wonderfull a trip you´ve just had and that people of a different opinion can go home?
Why don´t you accept that we live in a world where people are entitled to have an opinion that might not be the same as you have?
And no, I´m not a yank, I´ve never applied to Cathay and I´ve never failed a check. I´m just a mere NARROW-body SH captain.
I´m an outsider looking in and I simply can´t understand why you are so obsessed with selling your version of Cathay as the only true version.
Why is it you can´t accept that other people have a different opinion? In one of your previous posts you made it sound like you were being persecuted by other posters when in fact you started the whole thing with your remarks about yanks, UA and the like.
And why are you so obsessed with telling everyone what wonderfull a trip you´ve just had and that people of a different opinion can go home?
Why don´t you accept that we live in a world where people are entitled to have an opinion that might not be the same as you have?
And no, I´m not a yank, I´ve never applied to Cathay and I´ve never failed a check. I´m just a mere NARROW-body SH captain.
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Funny ol' thing.
B4start posts at 1128 and regretCX is right on to it 5 mins later.
An airline is what you make of it. People are big enough and ugly enough to make their own decisions. regretCX Do you not think that you are very much a square peg in a round hole if you are indeed working for CX? I wonder what recruiting were thinking about if they really did employ you? Now kindly p*ss off home and cry in mom's apron before you soil your diapers again.
B4start posts at 1128 and regretCX is right on to it 5 mins later.
An airline is what you make of it. People are big enough and ugly enough to make their own decisions. regretCX Do you not think that you are very much a square peg in a round hole if you are indeed working for CX? I wonder what recruiting were thinking about if they really did employ you? Now kindly p*ss off home and cry in mom's apron before you soil your diapers again.
Joined: Jun 1999
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From: Oztrailia
Holy smokes there are some weird people out there.
I went to work, actually enjoyed the trip and came home. What is the big deal about that? It doesn't mean I fully support Cx all they screw us with. Quite the opposite but after all the negative postings about Cx and our operation in here by Regretcx and others I'm trying to put a little perspective into the argument.
You all need to get a life.
I went to work, actually enjoyed the trip and came home. What is the big deal about that? It doesn't mean I fully support Cx all they screw us with. Quite the opposite but after all the negative postings about Cx and our operation in here by Regretcx and others I'm trying to put a little perspective into the argument.
You all need to get a life.
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Hong Kong
yes jtr, joined on the 'queen of the skies' and then airbus a few years later. Why do you ask?
I really dont understand why you are posting regretcx/cannot. I guess if you truly believe CX is that bad you are trying to do future new joiners a favour. But would they listen or believe you? Would you have not joined after reading a few posts on PPRUNE?
I enjoyed being an FO in this company...a position I held for around 9years. I can count on one hand the number of a#$hole captains I flew with. This includes check and trainers.
I dont think I will ever change your mind about CX nor can you change my mind. I am a pragmatist...I work here as I like the job and I like the money. I would like more money and less work but I haven't worked out how to achieve that yet;-)
You know regretcx/cannot, I was happy before I joined CX, I am happy in CX and I will be happy after CX. I wish I could say the same for you two.
I really dont understand why you are posting regretcx/cannot. I guess if you truly believe CX is that bad you are trying to do future new joiners a favour. But would they listen or believe you? Would you have not joined after reading a few posts on PPRUNE?
I enjoyed being an FO in this company...a position I held for around 9years. I can count on one hand the number of a#$hole captains I flew with. This includes check and trainers.
I dont think I will ever change your mind about CX nor can you change my mind. I am a pragmatist...I work here as I like the job and I like the money. I would like more money and less work but I haven't worked out how to achieve that yet;-)
You know regretcx/cannot, I was happy before I joined CX, I am happy in CX and I will be happy after CX. I wish I could say the same for you two.
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From: SIENA TWO
It must be time to have our own CX forum within PPRuNe restricted to registered users only. I am ashamed to be associated with some of the characters here.
CAN---"got any ride reports at flight level three four oh" NOT!!