The original, 75-page*, 1515-post CTC Wings thread was getting a bit unwieldy, so I've closed it. The signal-to-noise ratio was not good either, with far too many people posting social trivia and making it difficult for others to extract useful information from the thread. For those searching now, you'll probably find all you need in the first 10 pages of the original thread. After that, it becomes a never-ending succession of 'I'm on XX intake, anyone gonna meet me in the bar?' type posts. Useless.

So, hard rules from now on. If your post does not give useful information, it will be deleted.

Scroggs

*depending on browser and screen settings.

Start a CTC social thread?

No. This forum is for the exchange of aviation-related information, not for social trivia. PM, e-mail, instant messaging, even the bloody phone can be used for social chit-chat. It will not be allowed here.

Scroggs

Hello mates,

Will be at CTC end of November for stage 2, I believe I roughly know what tests to expect but how does it work exactly ?
What do you start with & how do they incorporate additional tests ?
By the way, how many tasks do u have to manage in the end ? (other than joystick ?) How long does it last for ?

Thx for kind replies, cheers & let me know if you are in the area !!
Pilatus

I take it you chose not to refer to the original 75-page, 1515-post thread on the subject that was linked to in the first post on this thread?

Some days are harder than others.

Scroggs

Seeing as there are so many people who can't be bothered to make the effort, I thought I'd trawl through the old thread and pull out some gems. The following links are full of useful tips and advice. If the answer isn't in there, then it probably isn't that important.

Stage 2 - Pilapt

Stage 2 - General

Stage 3 - General

Stage 4 - General

You will notice that there is no link for any Stage 1 info, because if you haven't got the initiative to fill out an application form without someone holding your hand, then you're probably not what CTC are looking for.

Good luck to all who apply.

Streety.

Scroggs,

Is this thread for the CTC Wings Cadet Scheme (for those with next to no flying experience) or the CTC Wings ATP scheme (for those with a CPL/IR)?

The selection and requirements are quite different so maybe an idea to differentiate between the 2.

M330

The selection for the Wings course for stage 1,2,3 is the same regardless of whether it is cadet or ATP. Some of the links posted above are relevant to anyone thinking of applying to CTC.

Everyone has to take pilapt and everyone has to do, if successful with the pilapt, an interview and group exercises. Of course questions in the interview will be directed at your flying experience and own life experiences.

Where things differ is stage 4. Cadets get a sim ride. The ATP stage 4 is the Airline Qualification Course.

CTC Wings Scheme the original, 1500+ post thread

The CTC ATP Scheme Thread

The CTC Holdpool (ATPers)

CTC AQC

Is that all clear for you? Any more searches you'd like me to do on your behalf?

Scroggs

Scroggs, ignoring your rather biting sarcasm for a minute, the reason I believe MonarchA330 brought up that point is because CTC Wings encompasses both the Cadets and the ATP schemes; i.e. ATP is also a part of Wings.

The point being made was that the title of the thread is a little misleading (yes, I know it's always had that name but the point might as well be raised now). If this particular thread is to be assumed to only apply to the Cadet scheme then it should be named "The CTC Wings Cadets scheme thread" - that way people interested in the Wings ATP course will know not to post there because it doesn't apply to them. Calling it the "Wings" thread doesn't make that distinction.

OK, fair enough. As the original thread seemed not to cause any confusion, I was happy to leave it as it was. However, I'm happy to change it if you feel it's necessary. As for 'biting sarcasm', I'm just a pussycat today. Try me when I'm p+ssed off and tired!

Scroggs

Hello, i'm new in this forum, and first i want to say an HELLO to everybody!
I've already read the CTC scheme thread.
But, i'd like to know if i fail in the CTC cadet selection, could i apply (sure after pass my CPL) for the ATP selection?

Thanks

Word of advice to anyone going to stage 2. Don't go to bed too early!!!!

I've just got back from my phase 2 but i haven't got a yay or nay yet. However, the day before yesterday i went to bed at 11:30 and got up at 7:00 alert and ready, perfect. Last night i went to bed at ten, when did i get to sleep? Probably about 2:30. Up at 7:30 that's 5 hours sleep. I was absolutely knackered! Basically i wasn't tired when i went to bed at 10 and as i was lying in bed my tiredness didn't increase. So i lay there all night growing more anxious by the minute. And the more anxious i got the harder it was to sleep.

As the pilapt test came around and my brain felt heavy. I dunno how i've done but if i failed it will be dissapointing, as i'll never know whether i could have passed had i done my best. Fingers crossed, but i'm preparing for the worst.

It was a great day though and the best of luck to everyone else who was there today.

Edit: I'm delighted to say that i've passed. What a relief! I really thought i had funked it.

Sat down to think about what to do to prepare for stage 3 for next month, which began by trawling through the part 1 thread again. So i've started reading the ins and outs of the partner airlines to a very detailed level, and ordered an interview book specifically for piloting jobs. I've also applied for a few jobs just to try and get some interviews as i've never really had a proper one.

I have had no flying experince, just a worrying obseseeion with the industry. Would it be worth my while getting one lesson before i go to the interview?

I guess it would be - It would give you an insight into flying for a start and also what the basic function of the controls are. You might even find you hate it Good Luck

Hi,

Does anyone ahve any experince of stage 3 for the second time?? I have it next week and was just wondering if anyone know if there is any difference between this and the first attempt e.g is it run with stage 3 first timers or is it all second attempt applicatnts? any ideas of the success rate?. Any advice would be much appreciated

Thanks

Murray

I know they say no flying experience is necessary but when you are sat around the table at the start of phase 3 and they ask you to introduce yourselves and say how many hours you have you might feel like a bit of a plonker if you haven't even set foot in a plane for a lesson!

I would really, really recommend getting at least a couple/few hours - First of all, you know you like the idea of flying but what if you actually don't particularly enjoy the physical flying itself? You'll either find that it ignites your passion for flying, which will show in your interviews, or that maybe flying isn't everything you thought - either way it's something worth finding out!

It'll give you a bit of first hand knowledge to answer questions with, and who looks more committed and motivated - the guy who turns up with 0 hours or the guy who turns up having paid off his own back to try and at least get a taste of flying?

Personally I'd be proud I'd made it to phase 3 without ever stepping foot in a plane for a lesson.

Thanks for the advice though, i may well take a trial lesson beforehand. Even though it's really not compatible with my current financial structure.

RJ111

It might not be within the scope of your present situation to have a lesson, however all it takes is an extra few hours here and there at work to afford it. However, having had financial troubles get in the way of my flight training, I know what it can be like!
After my first trial flight, I couldn't afford any lessons but kept going and hanging out at the flying school watching the aircraft/talking with instructors on the observation deck - as a result I was able to take a number of 'ad-hoc' back seat trips... (caution it becomes dangerously addictive!)


Good Luck!

ezy_3

I really would recommend it, even if it's in an ultralight aircraft like a eurostar EV...

If I remember correctly you can get an hour long introductory lesson for under £90-£100 in one of those - and they are quite fun too!

If however you can go the full £130-40 ish then I can wholeheartedly recommend White Waltham which is within reach of you (it's just off junction 8/9 of the M4) - great instructors, atmosphere, and lovely Piper PA-28 Warriors.