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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 4th Dec 2018, 22:48
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Originally Posted by basilbrush12 View Post


harveyhickss I am a cadet at L3

News spreads quite fast around most cadets. Most would give a similar story.
Yep delays are affecting MPL and ATPL students alike, untagged seems to have it worse but airline tagged cadets have big gaps in their training timeline too.

I'd be interested to know if other ATOs are experiencing the same level of problems?
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Old 4th Dec 2018, 22:59
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBarnstormer View Post
Yep delays are affecting MPL and ATPL students alike, untagged seems to have it worse but airline tagged cadets have big gaps in their training timeline too.

I'd be interested to know if other ATOs are experiencing the same level of problems?
BAA are saying "hold my beer"
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Old 5th Dec 2018, 12:44
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I'd be interested to know if other ATOs are experiencing the same level of problems?
Not in the modular world, although bookings at some CPL/IR schools now extend into summer 2019 but training is taking place when booked, there's no cascade effect.
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Old 22nd Dec 2018, 18:46
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Anyone part of CP209, Coventry, 29/01/19? Looking to start a Facebook group if anyone's interested?
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 16:46
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Hi, Ive been accepted onto an easyJet MPL but Iíve been told to transfer my EASA class 1 to an Austrian class 1. Anyone already done this/got any advice?
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 21:49
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David, all easyJet pilots from 1st Jan 2019 will be moving onto the Austrian license. They are just transitioning you in line with this move. If it is anything like the IAA transferral, it is 2 forms to complete: One for the CAA and one for Austro Control.
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 22:19
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Originally Posted by SAPEG3T View Post
David, all easyJet pilots from 1st Jan 2019 will be moving onto the Austrian license. They are just transitioning you in line with this move. If it is anything like the IAA transferral, it is 2 forms to complete: One for the CAA and one for Austro Control.
Nope, incorrect.

All easyJet Europe employeeís are moving to an Austrian licence. All easyJet UK employeeís stay with the UK issued EASA licence.

I presume the request is more for the L3 course being an EASA MPL course, so will be easier for continuity to do the whole process with a European country. Therefore can receive an EASA MPL, which can be converted in the future if needed.
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 22:56
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All new entrants to easyJet irrespective of base whom commence an induction post March 2019 will be required to hold an Austrian issued licence. This isnít an L3 requirement at all, itís actually asked of by the airline - given it be written on their orange letterhead (in my case).

Any existing U.K. based employees or any new and UK based employees starting work, but not training, before March can retain the UK CAA papers. A trainee starting their course soon would finish after March 2019 and thus require Austrian papers.

@David.98 - iíd ask the individual or organisation thatís asked you to do this for guidance. As others have said, a medical state of issue is just a paper or two to adjust.

Hope this helps.

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Old 24th Dec 2018, 19:43
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I have emailed L3 asking them as well but being Christmas itíll probably take a few days for them to reply. Appreciate the help. ��
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Old 24th Dec 2018, 20:51
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Originally Posted by Harveyhickss View Post
Anyone part of CP209, Coventry, 29/01/19? Looking to start a Facebook group if anyone's interested?
Iím on this course (EZMP37/CP209) starting 29/01/19 in Coventry. Iíve tried to pm you but because my account is new it wonít let me use messages on here. Whatíve you called the Facebook group so I can look for it
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 04:37
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Originally Posted by David.98 View Post


Iím on this course (EZMP37/CP209) starting 29/01/19 in Coventry. Iíve tried to pm you but because my account is new it wonít let me use messages on here. Whatíve you called the Facebook group so I can look for it
Haven't made it yet, I'll let you know when I do. Was seeing if there was many others first .
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Old 6th Jan 2019, 21:26
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Hello,

I'm on CP210 intake, anyone gonna meet me in the bar?

Feel free to PM me.

I see L3 has posted its stance on Brexit on its website - working to ensure minimum disruption.

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Old 8th Jan 2019, 10:00
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Originally Posted by EGPF View Post
Hello,

I'm on CP210 intake, anyone gonna meet me in the bar?

Feel free to PM me.

I see L3 has posted its stance on Brexit on its website - working to ensure minimum disruption.
They said similar when they took the RAF contract... look how that worked out.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 11:07
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CP210

Hello,

Im on CP210 too! Gimme a shout if not Iíll see you next week


Originally Posted by EGPF View Post
Hello,

I'm on CP210 intake, anyone gonna meet me in the bar?

Feel free to PM me.

I see L3 has posted its stance on Brexit on its website - working to ensure minimum disruption.

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Old 6th Feb 2019, 14:53
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Looking at applying for L3 Acadamey ATPL Course

Hello everyone,

New member here! Apologies if I've posted this in the incorrect space, i'm still getting to grips with the forum. I have dreamt of being a pilot from a very young age, and have done a couple of small flights in light aircraft recently and am now hooked.

I'm looking at applying for the L3 Academy for 2020 (I believe 2019 has already closed as couldn't find this on their website?) I had a few questions regarding transition from academy to job, and also funding.

I have looked around, but the only kind of funding I can find is Pegasus personal loans, but these need to be secured against property, which at 23 I do not own. I don't really have anything to go towards it currently, as I don't have a high salary. So i'd be looking to borrow the full £96,800 they quote for training. They also require the loan to be paid back from a month after taking the loan out, which I cannot understand how anyone would be able to as in training you're not earning? Does anyone of alternative funding available? Unfortunately my parents aren't a possibility for loaning the money to me, which is another recommendation I saw.

Secondly on completion of all training, how easy was it to get a job? L3 state they have a team dedicatd to getting you employed almost straight out of graduation?

Thanks,

Tobias
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 04:06
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You need to look at the current situation at L3. Inform yourself of the current issues there and make a balanced decision. There are a lot of threads on this forum that have more information: ME/IR instructor shortage ?
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 08:56
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Seems to me the more iíve read about L3, the worse they become. Seems that when they were originally CTC they were a tonne better. If iím honest iím still unsure I can afford to do it, even though itís been my dream for years.

Training costs at £110,000 for the MPL license, without cost of food and travel just seems unobtainable for someone like me. Itís okay for people that have money that can afford it, but not all of us are as blessed. And loans compaines for pilots licensing require you to start paying back a month after you take the loan out with no payment holiday, so finding the money every month, on top of full time learning is virtually impossible.

I canít understand why airlines arenít offering to cover costs, and deducting from wages once youíre working full time. I know Aer Lingus did in 2018 for 10 Cadets and I bet they were people similar in position to me.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 15:20
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Originally Posted by Tobias0501 View Post
I canít understand why airlines arenít offering to cover costs, and deducting from wages once youíre working full time.
Because, presently, they don't need to. There is a big enough supply of pilots paying their own way up front.

Originally Posted by Tobias0501 View Post
I know Aer Lingus did in 2018 for 10 Cadets and I bet they were people similar in position to me.
I believe Aer Lingus opened it up again. I also believe MANY MANY cadets/FOs leave Aer Lingus at the first opportunity.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 15:36
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Originally Posted by LlamaFarmer View Post
Because, presently, they don't need to. There is a big enough supply of pilots paying their own way up front.



I believe Aer Lingus opened it up again. I also believe MANY MANY cadets/FOs leave Aer Lingus at the first opportunity.
I understand in a way, why not! Just frustrating coming from somewhere thats not going to be even a fraction of the cost to complete it. The way I suggest means they still get the money back, just investing in the pilot first. I wouldnít even mind if they added 10% on top as a charge to complete the training on a fully funded basis, requiring payback on commencement of working.

I havenít seen much negative things about Aer lingus, but then again, iím not in the industry so not 100% on whoís best to go for. But if iím honest, anyone that would fund training iíd be interested in, as the oppertunity for someone like me would be too great to miss out on!
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