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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 16th Nov 2006, 21:22
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Cheers for that info bjkeates

(1) varies, i got mine the next day but others have waited weeks. I think there's just a day every month or so when they have a look at them all. So it could vary dramatically depending on when you handed your's in relative to that day.

(2) Phase 2 you'll get an e-mail within hours. The other phases supposedly the next day, so relatively quickly. They said they'd tell you as soon as they knew themselves.

Good luck.
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Old 17th Nov 2006, 10:51
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Originally Posted by scroggs View Post
No. This forum is for the exchange of aviation-related information, not for social trivia. PM, e-mail, instant messaging, even the bloody phone can be used for social chit-chat. It will not be allowed here.
I totally agree that the social trivia aspect of the previous ctc wings thread was getting out of hand, but surely it is acceptable to make the initial social contact on the forum? Thereafter social contacts can be carried on privately out with the public discussion.

I faxed my Wings Cadet application a couple of days ago (I’m desperate to hear back from them) and, assuming I get accepted, I would like to try to make contact with others going to their stage 2 with me. It would not be possible to contact people by PM or email though, without first identifying them through the forum.

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Old 17th Nov 2006, 11:25
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All social exchanges can be by PM or e-mail. Posting such trivia here interrupts the flow of useful information on the thread, and leads inevitably and invariably way off-topic, totally devaluing the thread as a source of useful information for those trying to research CTC's Wings scheme. The policy will not change.

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Old 19th Nov 2006, 11:43
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Life as a Wings Cadet

Are there any current or former Wings Cadets out there who could tell all us wannabes what life as a Wings Cadet is really like? What is the flying and workload like? What about the social aspect and accommodation? In your opinion, what would you say are the biggest positive and negative points, plus anything else you would like to add?
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Old 20th Nov 2006, 16:37
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Bad surprise

Hello, i sent my application for the Cadet CTC programme, but i received a bad new.
Indeed, i recently obtained my theoretical ATPL, therefore they answered me that i'm ineligible to apply for the Cadets, but that i could apply for the ATP programme when it will be re-opened.

I don't understand, i thought i could apply for the Cadets even if i hold an theoretical ATPL.
May be, they thought i have a frozen ATPL, and it's a mistake from their...???

Is someone able to help me ?
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Old 20th Nov 2006, 16:37
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Hi ,
I'm currently considering which A-levels to take. I will be taking Phyics Maths, but stuck on a third. I am unsure which of the folowing to take: Geography, Law, French or Business. All of which interest me. I want to apply to CTC but obviously want to keep my options open.
Any advice?
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Old 20th Nov 2006, 17:52
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Originally Posted by TCX_757 View Post
Hi ,
I'm currently considering which A-levels to take. I will be taking Phyics Maths, but stuck on a third. I am unsure which of the folowing to take: Geography, Law, French or Business. All of which interest me. I want to apply to CTC but obviously want to keep my options open.
Any advice?

Well I found geography to be fairly interesting and partially applicable to what I learnt when studying navigation for my SA Com. Hope that helps...

good luck there
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Old 21st Nov 2006, 18:44
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CTC programme, can anyone explain?

I have heard a few things about a programme called the CTC programme from various people, but I don't know too much about it. I read in Airliner World (UK mag) about a female pilot who flies for easyJet who went through the CTC programme to ger employed as a first officer. Anyway, can someone tell me what it's about, in terms of the training and how it is connected with the airlines, eg, do they pay a percentage of the training?
I am 19 with a PPL-A and worked in aviation (just a flying school) until I got to University (doing European Business), and was hoping to work in the admin side of aviation in a big firm when I graduate in 4 years time. However, I have been flying a lot of Jets on FS2004 recently (I know it's not the same thing...), and have become a lot more interested in the actual flying side of an airline. I'm in the first year of uni', but if I was able to get myself onto a sponsorship scheme, I would probably drop Uni' and try to go for a career as a commercial pilot, but I don't want to end up like hundreds of other pilots with the ATPL, CPL and a type rating and no job... Your advice please?
Also, are there any other companies at the moment which are offering full sponsorship for young persons such as myself?
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Old 21st Nov 2006, 19:13
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Use the search function. There is huge amounts of information on the scheme here my friend.
Also www.ctcaviation.com.
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Old 23rd Nov 2006, 11:05
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Does anyone know any good ways of practising hand eye co-ordination, preferably something similar to the cross hairs? Any websites or games etc...
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Old 23rd Nov 2006, 12:29
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I'd suggest playing a game that uses a joystick. It took me a few rounds to get used to it in the test.
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Old 23rd Nov 2006, 17:10
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How was stage 3 then FlyHiGuy28? Any news?

Old 23rd Nov 2006, 19:47
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I faxed my Wings Cadet application a couple of days ago (I’m desperate to hear back from them).

Did you hear anything yet? I'm gonna fax it to them tomorrow.


And, another question,

How should one wear for the stage 2, 3, etc etc... does it have to be a suit?


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Old 24th Nov 2006, 17:12
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A day in the life of.....


Stage 2 is smart dress but not always a suit. I didn't wear a suit (because I didn't own one at the time) and passed. The idea is smart, clean and presentable. To be exact I wore dress trousers and shoes a clean pressed polo shirt and a thin plain jumper.

Stage 3 is a huge emphasis on presentation. A suit is a must, but dont go and sell your granny for the newest cut of silk. Again, it has to be clean, pressed and ready for action. Likewise for yourself, clean and ready is more important than a £1500. I got mine from next on the discount rail and paid about £100 for the lot, tie inc. £23 for the dry cleaners to get it ready for me and that was it. Cant stress it enough though, clean and ready beats the guy who is ill prepared wearing a sharp suit. This company are a little deeper than the clothes although an effort must be shown.

Thats not the original reason for posting though. I just thought I'd answer that one quickly. I thought I'd give some feedback for you guys who are coming out here soon or are in the latter stages of selection. For those that dont know me my name is Robert Woodmore and I am on the CTC Wings course and make up part of the CP42 group. I came out here a little later than everyone else in my group because I am on the short course as opposed to the long course. Anywho, I arrived yesturday morning (local time).

AS mentioned I had to travel alone out here which isn't the norm for CTC. I think the average through flow for cadets coming out is 10-12 per month but this isn't fixed. I'm sure your aware that some months alot of people pass and some months no one passes. I had to travel from leeds to Heathrow and was under the impression that my luggage allowance was 30kg with my flightbag as the main carry on and a laptop as a second piece of carry on. This isn't the case now however. So after a 5 hour car journey I am informed that the laptop has to go into the flight bag which means all the manuals and chunky bits have to go into the hold. After messing about my carry on weighed in at 11.7kg and my main bags weighed in at a massive 43kg. What was I thinking???????!! This total will get you a nice bill of £430 sterling and this wasn't an option. Back off up to the car park for a little trimming of the cases. Squeezed everything in and then off to check-in again where the guys were moe than happy to rush me through and see me off. A quick pint with my brothers, mum and fiancee and off to the gate. Very emotional experience at the gate where everyone says goodbye's and I am in pieces at leaving my fiancee back in the UK but it is a day of very mixed emotions. Security was no problem providing you jump through all the hoops they put in front of you and keep cool. Another pint in the airside bar as the flight is delayed till 11pm.

I flew with Singapore Airlines on the 747-400 and due to the guy at checking helping me there was 2 people over 4 seats so space wasn't a problem. Leg room was surprisingly vast and the inflight service was possibly the best I've experienced....ever. The crew genuinely want to help and seemed very friendly. The entertainment was awesome with 80 on-demand movies and a bunch of documentaries and music channels. Meals and drinks are all thrown in so no need to get your wallet out just yet. A light snack, another beer and then settled into the flight. Didn't get too much sleep as Mario Brothers made up one of the seat back games and meant I ended up with a sore thumb from all the jumping and fighting off mushroom men! Roughly 13 hours later I was at singapore. Singapore is a mental airport. It's more like a city with gyms, supermarket, hotels, pools and all i naddition to anything you'd witness in a UK airport. I quickly got off and took myself to the airports transit hotel where for $8.40 (£3.50) you can get a shower with all the towels and shampoos, hairgels, lotions ect provided. Before doing this though I stopped off to buy a clean shirt for the next leg as I forgot to pack a spare. Whatever you do, you dont want to be the guy that smells on the next 9.5hr leg!! All cleaned up, shaved and fresh and off to the checkin for Aukland. All relatively painless and the service again was good. I did have a kid behind me who didn't feel the need to stop screaming until the plane landed in Aukland. This was a real test of my patience and those around me with one or two outbursts from some of the passengers. I was on my own but ended up sitting next to a guy who holds his NZ CPL so that was the 9hrs done. Spoke about all sorts of nonesense and had a beer with him which helped the flight go by. A pretty stiff crosswind into Aukland which lead to a positive (read spinebreakingly firm) touchdown and then the games started with NZ immigration. I was stopped no less than three time by these sadists and also referred to the immigration board which meant I had to sit around for 20 mins whilst they sorted out my papers and quadruple checked I was here for the right reasons. Time consuming and not what I needed after all the traveling, but still refreshing to know that I'm here now and only a short drive to my accomodation. I was picked up in a minibus, and given a quick tour whilst bringing me to Clearways at hamilton airport. The journey is about 1hr 45min and as soon as I arrived I was greeted by lynne who showed me around the new complex. It is awesome. I have my own hotel type room with ensuite, a little kitchen area with microwave, cooker, kettle, fridge. I've got a t.v and internet connection, desk space and plenty of storage. Oh yeah and damn comfy bed too. There is also a £35M alarm clock in the form a Freedom Air Airbus that departs at 6.20am!! I was shown the communal areas and the saw the huge tv that receives sattelite which is cool. A gym and transport are also provided so I met up with some friends that I had made through selection and from Uni and we took a minibus into town to grab some food and take a look around the airport. I have only been here 5 minutes and I have already seen most of the complex and the training facilities. I took a seat in the katana that I will start to fly and met some of the ops staff. I have my induction on Monday but until then I've got to get settled and sort out some bits. My friend has a CPL qualifier today so we may end up popping out tonight for a beer to celebrate.

All in all I'm the happiest person alive right now. It's a huge emotional rollercoaster but one that I'm very pleased to be on.

After failing my 3rd stage of selection to getting out here has been awesome and I guess now the hard work starts. I hope those of you reading can say the same thing. I look forward to seeing you soon. I hope this inspires you!

The Reverand

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Old 24th Nov 2006, 18:44
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Good post Reverand.

I am flying out in a little over a month and really can't wait to get out there. All my bits and pieces over here are sorted now and I am just desperate to get on with it. See you out there.
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Old 25th Nov 2006, 00:06
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I second that, Good post Rob! I know its not been easy leaving everyone behind (oh the joys of being young, free and single eh!). Don't worry though because me and Tiger Moth'll be out there soon enough to soak up some of that winter sunshine, until then keep us posted, I know theres plenty of people on here that want to hear part 2.

Happy Days,

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Old 28th Nov 2006, 03:01
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What an essay Rev,

Next time save yourself the $ at Singapore and just douse in EDT samples.

Though agree with you on immigration at AKL, last time, I and about 700 other unlucky souls had four customs officials to see us all. I was asked if I had juggling balls (apparently they can contain hemp or other biosecurity contraband) so not only are we expected to continue the cattle-class existence after leaving the plane but entertain each other too.

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Old 28th Nov 2006, 10:56
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Nice post Rev!

Flying out in a week and its good to read up on what is to be expected. Last month has certainly flown (pun intended) by with all the things that need sorting, but its good to get going now!

I'm going through Dubai, flying with Emirates. Never flow with 'm before, lets hope the experience is as good as yours (-screaming child).
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 11:42
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Does anyone of you know how many chaps get selected for the programme every month... or say the Ratio of applicants : selected?

Old 28th Nov 2006, 12:40
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I've done stage 3 last week and during the briefing they told us that they currently select about 12 cadets per month. If you read around the news on the CTC website you'll notice that this number is gonna grow soon because of the needs of the market.
I cannot tell the final percentage of successful applicants. Somebody says 3%, somebodys says 4%... I'll tell you what I've been told at stage 2:

"If you are here, consider yourself lucky cause 2/3 of the applicant are rejected at the first stage". Another 2/3 of the remaining applicants are rejected at stage 2. Pass rate for stage 3 is about 45% and pass rate for stage 4 is about 85%. I hope this make things clear.

Got stage 4 soon... I just can't wait
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