Internet Sharing Help!
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Internet Sharing Help!
Despair!!!!!
Have LAN networked desktop (Master) to laptop (Slave). They seem to communicate as Hotmail Messenger functions normally on both machines.
My dilemna is that I CAN Internet Explore on the desktop but CANNOT on the laptop.
I feel I am close to a solution as after clicking for a search on the laptop the lower howgozit box shows
1. Finding Site.........
2. Opening Page.........
3. Done
Along side the Beam Bar moves continuously.
The end result is 'The page cannot be displayed' standard error page. Having tried all the help advice on that page, I still have no joy just a repeat of the above.
My aim of course is to BT Broadband parrallel surf simultanesouly, hopefully with no speed degridation.
Can any of you whizz kids give advice please.
Have LAN networked desktop (Master) to laptop (Slave). They seem to communicate as Hotmail Messenger functions normally on both machines.
My dilemna is that I CAN Internet Explore on the desktop but CANNOT on the laptop.
I feel I am close to a solution as after clicking for a search on the laptop the lower howgozit box shows
1. Finding Site.........
2. Opening Page.........
3. Done
Along side the Beam Bar moves continuously.
The end result is 'The page cannot be displayed' standard error page. Having tried all the help advice on that page, I still have no joy just a repeat of the above.
My aim of course is to BT Broadband parrallel surf simultanesouly, hopefully with no speed degridation.
Can any of you whizz kids give advice please.
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You let us guess a lot here...what are you using where and what kind of LAN are you using?
The problem you report seems to be a time-out result. This happens when the browser does not receive or reply in due time to the called server.
Nothing with your broadband...it appears to be the narrowband between your notebook and the desktop...
The problem you report seems to be a time-out result. This happens when the browser does not receive or reply in due time to the called server.
Nothing with your broadband...it appears to be the narrowband between your notebook and the desktop...
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Thank you FL310 for the reply.
I am using a Cat 5 cable to link the PCMIA card from the laptop to the Linksys ethernet 10/100LAN card on the desktop.
The desktop is a Tiny Pentium II MMX 500Mghz 125 SDRAM, and the laptop is a Sony Vaio Pentium III 750 Mghz 256 SDRAM. Both running Millenium.
Re 'Time Out', I went to stopwatch the expected download time this morning and up comes various errors suggesting computer restarts.
THe Error Codes were
1 YCOMP4,0,2,3.DLL
2 MSVCRT.DLL
3 Kernel32.DLL
These errors do not always appear, for instance the last attempt no errors appear and the 'Finding Site' 'Opening Site' 'Done' takes 20 Seconds the result again is 'The page cannot displayed' albeit MSN Messenger continues to run ok. Confirming the LAN is working to some extent.
Another clue maybe at the end of the 'Opening Site' text shows I think DNS error, although I cannot be sure as is only displays for a fraction of a second.
I am using a Cat 5 cable to link the PCMIA card from the laptop to the Linksys ethernet 10/100LAN card on the desktop.
The desktop is a Tiny Pentium II MMX 500Mghz 125 SDRAM, and the laptop is a Sony Vaio Pentium III 750 Mghz 256 SDRAM. Both running Millenium.
Re 'Time Out', I went to stopwatch the expected download time this morning and up comes various errors suggesting computer restarts.
THe Error Codes were
1 YCOMP4,0,2,3.DLL
2 MSVCRT.DLL
3 Kernel32.DLL
These errors do not always appear, for instance the last attempt no errors appear and the 'Finding Site' 'Opening Site' 'Done' takes 20 Seconds the result again is 'The page cannot displayed' albeit MSN Messenger continues to run ok. Confirming the LAN is working to some extent.
Another clue maybe at the end of the 'Opening Site' text shows I think DNS error, although I cannot be sure as is only displays for a fraction of a second.
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Can you ping from the laptop?
Try bringing up a dos prompt on the desktop, and typing "ping news.bbc.co.uk". Make a note of the IP address.
Now, try the same command twice on the laptop. Once, use news.bbc.co.uk and the second time try the IP address. If the second one works but the first fails then it is a DNS problem.
Oh, and is the desktop machine firewalled...?
Try bringing up a dos prompt on the desktop, and typing "ping news.bbc.co.uk". Make a note of the IP address.
Now, try the same command twice on the laptop. Once, use news.bbc.co.uk and the second time try the IP address. If the second one works but the first fails then it is a DNS problem.
Oh, and is the desktop machine firewalled...?
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hmm...
sounds similar to a problem I had networking two machines running Windows ME.
Have you enabled internet connection sharing on the machine which has the connection?
The only solution I found when I had problems was to remove all network devices in the control panel, shut down the machine, physically remove them, then power up so it knows they are not there. Then powered back down and reinstalled the network card and net connection and ran the home networking wizard which finally sorted the mess.
Dunno if other Win versions have this wizard or not.
Am pretty confident that there was an easier solution, but there are so many damn places in windows to modify network settings that I figured deleting the whole lot and allowing it to automatically set things up was the easiest way.
Hope this helps, probably not now I read it but gotta go work so can't type at length!
sounds similar to a problem I had networking two machines running Windows ME.
Have you enabled internet connection sharing on the machine which has the connection?
The only solution I found when I had problems was to remove all network devices in the control panel, shut down the machine, physically remove them, then power up so it knows they are not there. Then powered back down and reinstalled the network card and net connection and ran the home networking wizard which finally sorted the mess.
Dunno if other Win versions have this wizard or not.
Am pretty confident that there was an easier solution, but there are so many damn places in windows to modify network settings that I figured deleting the whole lot and allowing it to automatically set things up was the easiest way.
Hope this helps, probably not now I read it but gotta go work so can't type at length!
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Yes the Desktop is Norton Firewall is enabled & the Laptop Norton Firewall is disabled.
Desktop pinged OK.
Laptop pinged as you suspected ie, only on the IP address, suggesting the DNS problem.
Any thoughts please.
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Will try your method in due course, Thank you
Yes the Desktop is Norton Firewall is enabled & the Laptop Norton Firewall is disabled.
Desktop pinged OK.
Laptop pinged as you suspected ie, only on the IP address, suggesting the DNS problem.
Any thoughts please.
JOCK ALERT
Will try your method in due course, Thank you
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UNC,
I was going to ask if you had the right type of Cat 5 cable. Most of the ones sold assume that you are going to plug into a hub/switch. If you want to plug two computers directly together, then you will need a "crossover" cable. You can configure some hubs to do this internally, but I've not (yet) come across a PC card that would do it...
I was going to ask if you had the right type of Cat 5 cable. Most of the ones sold assume that you are going to plug into a hub/switch. If you want to plug two computers directly together, then you will need a "crossover" cable. You can configure some hubs to do this internally, but I've not (yet) come across a PC card that would do it...
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dspprune - he can ping, so it isn't a LAN problem. It's a DNS problem.
UNC -
will need to check once I'm home, but I think that Jock Alert it right.
When you setup ICS on the desktop machine, there is (somewhere) an option to create a floppy disk to configure ICS clients. Using that is the easiest way to get things started.
UNC -
will need to check once I'm home, but I think that Jock Alert it right.
When you setup ICS on the desktop machine, there is (somewhere) an option to create a floppy disk to configure ICS clients. Using that is the easiest way to get things started.
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Thank You dspprune
The cable was sold to me as a Cat5e cable that would internet share.
I think this has proven to be true as I have just finished MSN messenger meeting on the net using the Laptop which is downstream of the desktop.
The dilema is the ability to simultaneously net search on the Two machines. So far windows explorer just gives me the previously mentioned errors.
Maybe solving the DNS problem will be the answer any thoughts?
The cable was sold to me as a Cat5e cable that would internet share.
I think this has proven to be true as I have just finished MSN messenger meeting on the net using the Laptop which is downstream of the desktop.
The dilema is the ability to simultaneously net search on the Two machines. So far windows explorer just gives me the previously mentioned errors.
Maybe solving the DNS problem will be the answer any thoughts?
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Re the floppy disc for ics. I was invited to create a disc for this if my memory serves me well. But I think it was recommended if the second machine did not have a wizard. On both machines I ran the 'Millenium Home Networking Wizard'
You made reference to finding more info on your return to home, hope you can help.
Thank you
Re the floppy disc for ics. I was invited to create a disc for this if my memory serves me well. But I think it was recommended if the second machine did not have a wizard. On both machines I ran the 'Millenium Home Networking Wizard'
You made reference to finding more info on your return to home, hope you can help.
Thank you
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Doh ! Just spotted the reference to Me :-(
On your desktop, fire up the internet connection, then from the "Start", "Run" menu, type "winipcfg". This will pop up a little box telling you some stuff about your network connection. If you click on "More Info", you will, amazingly enough for M$, get more info, including the DNS servers that your ISP has set (you may need to click on the box with "..." to scroll through them. Note these down.
Now go to the "Control Panel", "TCP/IP", "DNS Configuration" and dial the numbers in to the appropriate box. You *SHOULD* be able to get away without having to fill in any of the other boxes (but all bets are off with M$ networking so no gurantees :-( )
You will need to reboot for the changes to take effect, of course, and see if that gets you going. If it does, and if your're lucky, you might not even have to change those settings, until one day things mysteriously stop working, and you discover that your ISP has changed them, at which point you have to go through the whole process again :-)
HTH,
DS
On your desktop, fire up the internet connection, then from the "Start", "Run" menu, type "winipcfg". This will pop up a little box telling you some stuff about your network connection. If you click on "More Info", you will, amazingly enough for M$, get more info, including the DNS servers that your ISP has set (you may need to click on the box with "..." to scroll through them. Note these down.
Now go to the "Control Panel", "TCP/IP", "DNS Configuration" and dial the numbers in to the appropriate box. You *SHOULD* be able to get away without having to fill in any of the other boxes (but all bets are off with M$ networking so no gurantees :-( )
You will need to reboot for the changes to take effect, of course, and see if that gets you going. If it does, and if your're lucky, you might not even have to change those settings, until one day things mysteriously stop working, and you discover that your ISP has changed them, at which point you have to go through the whole process again :-)
HTH,
DS
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Element of success!!!!!!
Managed at last to do simultaneous surfing.
dspprune
Have not yet tried your suggestions, will keep them on the backburner alongside Jock Alert method just in case. Thank you.
For info, the most significant action I took was to run the wizards more than a few times and also the gate opened just after accepting a new version of messenger, if you remember the I was already running MSN messenger downsteam on the laptop. So I cannot say with confidence what happened to get things moving if anything.
THe BAD news I am still geting 95% of the time, the previuosly mentioned DLL errors which is a pain in the butt, as the subroutine surfing gets blown out back to the desktop. The DLL errors are :
1. MSVCRT.DLL
2. KERNEL32.DLL
3. YCOMP4,0,2,3.DLL
4. Plus another a cannot remember
Any Thoughts
It's not over til the fat lady sings
Managed at last to do simultaneous surfing.
dspprune
Have not yet tried your suggestions, will keep them on the backburner alongside Jock Alert method just in case. Thank you.
For info, the most significant action I took was to run the wizards more than a few times and also the gate opened just after accepting a new version of messenger, if you remember the I was already running MSN messenger downsteam on the laptop. So I cannot say with confidence what happened to get things moving if anything.
THe BAD news I am still geting 95% of the time, the previuosly mentioned DLL errors which is a pain in the butt, as the subroutine surfing gets blown out back to the desktop. The DLL errors are :
1. MSVCRT.DLL
2. KERNEL32.DLL
3. YCOMP4,0,2,3.DLL
4. Plus another a cannot remember
Any Thoughts
It's not over til the fat lady sings
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Oh dear.
Those sort of error faults are starting to look towards a clean install.
I too had to run the wizard a few times on both before LAN activated successfully. With the broadband connection you will not notice any degradation of dual surfing (that is unless your wife is also downloading divx files).
Those sort of error faults are starting to look towards a clean install.
I too had to run the wizard a few times on both before LAN activated successfully. With the broadband connection you will not notice any degradation of dual surfing (that is unless your wife is also downloading divx files).
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Firewalls
If you only ever connect to the Internet through your desktop then it should be OK to just firewall that. If you want to dial-up directly from the laptop, you probably want to FW that as well.
What interests me particularly is not the unwanted connections coming IN to a typical net-connected PC these days, but the number of unexpected connections GOING OUT ! All those pieces of software connecting sites to register themselves, including all the details that they can find about you on the machine, etc while they're at it
FWIW, I use Tiny's Personal Firewall (http://www.tinysoftware.com/)
What interests me particularly is not the unwanted connections coming IN to a typical net-connected PC these days, but the number of unexpected connections GOING OUT ! All those pieces of software connecting sites to register themselves, including all the details that they can find about you on the machine, etc while they're at it
FWIW, I use Tiny's Personal Firewall (http://www.tinysoftware.com/)
