British Airways vs. BASSA (Airline Staff Only)
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There are some of us who Bassa would probably LOVE to post their pay slip details.... Let the public REALLY see what a growing majority of crew earn (a very average wage, albeit very decent for what I do).
Basic pay is £29.700 (this is an approximate for a full-time contract but as I'm 75% it's less than that) a year excluding meal allowances and other payments. I'm on the old contract and not really representing the majority as they are the ones recruited in 1997 and later. They probably earn £10.000 less.
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Virtually no news coverage of the strike so far today.People losing interest and bigger stories.
Unite losing the `oxygen of publicity` and strikers getting wet.Paychecks starting to arrive and the enormity of it all starting to sink in.
BA continue to run an operation at 70% and more crew than required still reporting.
Bassa/Unite desperate for talks and any offer to be put to them but it ain`t gonna happen.You had your chance.The end game will be dictated by WW and I`m sure it will be on his terms
I know who my money is on.
Unite losing the `oxygen of publicity` and strikers getting wet.Paychecks starting to arrive and the enormity of it all starting to sink in.
BA continue to run an operation at 70% and more crew than required still reporting.
Bassa/Unite desperate for talks and any offer to be put to them but it ain`t gonna happen.You had your chance.The end game will be dictated by WW and I`m sure it will be on his terms
I know who my money is on.
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In contrast, in a normal working day a BA cabin crew member with five year's experience would earn only £15,000
I'm sure BASSA don't want that together out...
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I'm a CC volunteer, and having stood by for several days (speaks volumes in itself) I finally had the opportunity to operate into Europe yesterday.
What a wonderful experience! CRC was standing room only. I met a fantastic welcoming and supportive crew who were deeply appreciative of my efforts. Both sectors were full, and we worked hard, smiled a lot, and all our pax were happy.
Of course, I have no prior benchmark for comparison, but if all crews acted like mine yesterday, I suspect this would be a very different airline. I hope to be able to help again as soon as possible.
What a wonderful experience! CRC was standing room only. I met a fantastic welcoming and supportive crew who were deeply appreciative of my efforts. Both sectors were full, and we worked hard, smiled a lot, and all our pax were happy.
Of course, I have no prior benchmark for comparison, but if all crews acted like mine yesterday, I suspect this would be a very different airline. I hope to be able to help again as soon as possible.
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Irrespective of the 'amount' the cost to the company of NOT flying anything during Unites spat would be catastrophic both in monetary terms, publicity terms and customer forward booking terms.
The company MUST be seen to be doing something to counter the irresponsible actions of a few self serving head office Unite leaders.
Get over it.
The company MUST be seen to be doing something to counter the irresponsible actions of a few self serving head office Unite leaders.
Get over it.
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Oh, and not a single broken Crew Rest Area door lock reported in the CDL.
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VCC Allowances
£166 per hour is NOT true.
I get £2.66 per hour away from base.
£9 per hour when aircraft doors are closed.
That makes £11.66 not £166.
A BASSA typo or god forbid perhaps a BASSA lie.
I get £2.66 per hour away from base.
£9 per hour when aircraft doors are closed.
That makes £11.66 not £166.
A BASSA typo or god forbid perhaps a BASSA lie.
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'Broken' CRA door lock
Ah.. That's another nice little earner I believe. Care to remind us how much it is per crew member on a trip? 
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Here are some FACTS, these are just a few of the BA 747 flights that left LHR yesterday. They were all FULLY crewed with 'normal' cc and had an average load factor of over 90%.
LAX- BA 283 and BA269
SFO- BA 285
HKG- BA 25
NRT- BA 5
SIN- BA 11
BKK- BA 9
JNB- BA 55
CPT- BA 59
GRU- BA 247
This is just a small sample, there are many more. Stop believing the BASSA lies, and look at the facts.
IF YOU ARE ON STRIKE YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY!
LAX- BA 283 and BA269
SFO- BA 285
HKG- BA 25
NRT- BA 5
SIN- BA 11
BKK- BA 9
JNB- BA 55
CPT- BA 59
GRU- BA 247
This is just a small sample, there are many more. Stop believing the BASSA lies, and look at the facts.
IF YOU ARE ON STRIKE YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY!
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Pay Slips are in
..not to mention the gloriously lucrative JFK'ers.
Since this is about BA v BASSA, the non-backers have hardly brought about paralysis on the scale of their rhetoric. What is emerging is a mechanism, orchestrated by BASSA, thank you very much, whereby the militant malignancy has had the opportunity to avoid having to work. This has thrown the shackles off the beast and allowed a re-newed spirit of 'can-do' to pervade the operation - so beautifully described by HighFlyer14.
Non-BA Backers, stay away, or come and join the work-force, ST permitting.
nurj
PS, The March payslips are begining to reveal more of BASSA's ineptitude. Oh, and Len McCluskey's, Derek Simpson's, Tony Woodley's, Brian Boyd's payslips will show no deductions for 'withdrawal of labour'.
Madness, utter madness.
Since this is about BA v BASSA, the non-backers have hardly brought about paralysis on the scale of their rhetoric. What is emerging is a mechanism, orchestrated by BASSA, thank you very much, whereby the militant malignancy has had the opportunity to avoid having to work. This has thrown the shackles off the beast and allowed a re-newed spirit of 'can-do' to pervade the operation - so beautifully described by HighFlyer14.
Non-BA Backers, stay away, or come and join the work-force, ST permitting.
nurj
PS, The March payslips are begining to reveal more of BASSA's ineptitude. Oh, and Len McCluskey's, Derek Simpson's, Tony Woodley's, Brian Boyd's payslips will show no deductions for 'withdrawal of labour'.
Madness, utter madness.
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There is no info I can check on crew levels but many went full and hence had enough 'normal' crew to run the flight. Certainly at least two of them went with the usual 14 cc, as mates were the flightcrew!
As so many crew are turning up, BA are increasing the number of longhaul trips once again.
As so many crew are turning up, BA are increasing the number of longhaul trips once again.
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On the contrary Miamimike. There is no sweet smell. the 'beleivers' have been effectively 'lined up and shot at' by a group of leaders with greed and self-service on the agenda. Fortunately, those lined up, will be missed by the incoming fire as, IMHO, BA will not sack them. Their collective fate's depends on when they choose to return to the fold (as they are in the minority) and with what attitude.
Madness, utter madness.
nurj
Madness, utter madness.
nurj
Len's not doing well on his scary credibility rating. First of all he and his mates said that any idea that BA could maintain a flying programme during the strike would be "a fiction" & "a fantasy". Red rags and bulls come to mind. Then, as the fantasy planes kept casting their ghostly shadows over Bedfont, he tried the unsafe scare to de-rail BA's continued ops, but the CAA were still happy to approve; then he tried the foreign union scare to disrupt the U.S. aircraft handling, but the foreign unions were still happy to handle; then he tried the brand trashing scare to discourage the customers from coming, but the customers were still happy to board; now he's trying the economics scare to spook the shareholders -but surprise,surprise, the BA share price just keeps going up and up.
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Well I was in CRC both Saturday and Sunday. BAs figures on reflection look to be correct. (I know some might say "I would say that") I can only speak with authority on the WW side of things but the worst turn out yesterday was 4 on a stateside that had been canceled anyway, these 4 were quickly re deployed to other flights. I don't have the figures to hand but very few "volunteers" were used Saturday or Sunday on WW. I also had a very illuminating conversation with BF on Sunday, the first time I had meet him.
BASSA/UNITE seem to be stooping to some depths to get people out on strike, the TV cameras in CRC lie was just one example. The other is the amount of money volunteers are getting paid.
The truth be told I don't know where this will end. UNITE/BASSA can't win a strike when 50% of people are turning up for work, neither can BA win a strike with that amount.
In BAs favour the company was not making any money before the strike, the routes which they have kept flying especially long haul are those that generate the profits, so I'm sure they can hold out for some time in the hope that people drift back to work, or until the strike mandate runs out.
BASSA/UNITE seem to be stooping to some depths to get people out on strike, the TV cameras in CRC lie was just one example. The other is the amount of money volunteers are getting paid.
The truth be told I don't know where this will end. UNITE/BASSA can't win a strike when 50% of people are turning up for work, neither can BA win a strike with that amount.
In BAs favour the company was not making any money before the strike, the routes which they have kept flying especially long haul are those that generate the profits, so I'm sure they can hold out for some time in the hope that people drift back to work, or until the strike mandate runs out.
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Crew are coming to work in increasing numbers. How depressing for the dwindling strikers at BFC to open their reduced March pay slips as the BA5 Narita service thunders overhead with a full crew earning several hundred pounds each for a 4 day trip.....
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SPARK of LIFEs,wonderful experience!!,can almost hear the Julie Andrews soundtrack!."Volunteers",such as yourself,however well intended ,Nigels doing ice & lemon etc have sown the seeds to many years of unrest.
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have sown the seeds to many years of unrest.
I suspect many may find themselves "managed" out of BA in the post strike environment. The crew's who've been flying have shown how good BA is without the bedfont brigade.
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Reduced Monthly Pay
Just a little curious that there is talk of reduced pay in the March pay advice as reported on the other forum.
Allowances and variables are credited one month in arrears, ie variable pay and allowances for March 2010 flying will appear in the April 2010 pay advice.
The deduction for strike days will surely appear in the April 2010 pay advice as the first action was on the 20th March and we are not even at the end of March yet, the XXX days are obviously shown on the electronic roster in real time.
Allowances and variables are credited one month in arrears, ie variable pay and allowances for March 2010 flying will appear in the April 2010 pay advice.
The deduction for strike days will surely appear in the April 2010 pay advice as the first action was on the 20th March and we are not even at the end of March yet, the XXX days are obviously shown on the electronic roster in real time.