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Old 29th Mar 2010, 14:53
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Fruitbat, don't forget the 90% that turned up for SEP training today
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:20
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Yep,soon be business as usual.Next problem is what to do with the 19,867 cabin crew.(Calculation based on % of those turning up for work).
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:22
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Well the £700000 war chest has tipped me over the edge. Cancelled my Unite membership today. ALAE here I come.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:24
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.(Calculation based on % of those turning up for work).
Would that calculation be based on Unites idea that 2100 crew report each day by any chance?

Its more like 1200 per day.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:29
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Of those 1200 cabin crew reporting each day, Bedfont FC must be packed to capacity.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:32
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Mind you,if all the facts & figures published on here are correct its only the BASSA reps and a few odds & sods on strike-700,000 divided by 23=,mmm difficult one that.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:34
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Unite said many pilots earned £166 an hour - or £120,000 a year - compared with crew who are paid £16 an hour - or £15,000 annually - after five years' experience. Unite says its cabin crew figure is based on legally-agreed contracts to fly 900 hours a year, plus benefits and allowances.
Plus, Len says, note it is not including

I have to just sigh at the linked BBC article. Really pathetic rhetoric-filled hate coming from Unite.

Honestly, I would not be surprised to see even reps resign.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 15:52
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New BA statement:

PROFIT OUTLOOK REMAINS UNCHANG ED

Contingency plans for the second period of industrial action. have again been very successful.

Over the first two days (March 27 and 28) the airline operated 308 or 83 per cent of its longhaul programme (273 or 78 per cent last weekend) and 623 or 67 per cent of its shorthaul programme (442 or 50 per cent last weekend). Total number of passenger flights increased 30 per cent from 715 to 931. Seat factors continued to be strong at 75 per cent in longhaul and 64 per cent in shorthaul. In addition the airline operated 61 positioning flights to carry cargo and return passengers home with minimum disruption, nine less than last weekend. Wet lease aircraft decreased from 22 to 11 (costing approximately £495,000 for the last two days) as we operated a larger number of our own aircraft. We operated 100 per cent of our normal schedule at Gatwick.

Over this busy Easter holiday air travel weekend, we flew 118,575 passengers, an increase of 37 per cent over the 86,262 carried last weekend.

This strong and improved operational performance made possible by dedicated BA colleagues has further reduced the impact of the disruption. The estimate is a daily impact of £5.5 million for each day this weekend. Any change to the cost impact for the remaining two days of industrial action will be announced later in the week if required.

Earnings expectations for the year ended March 31, 2010 continue broadly unchanged.

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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:18
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Oh dear..

Oh dear it seems that Unite have done some calculations and realised how much this fiasco is gonna cost them and are gonna try and squeeze more subs from the rest of us to support the strikers, well... "NO WAY JOSE!"
My resignation from UNTIE will be going in tomorrow as I refuse to pay anything to support a group of people intent on wrecking my livelyhood.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:23
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£5.5m per day, down from £7m. The next time around we will be somewhere near post 9/11 cash burn. The difference this time is that we have way more cash and less debt. When are the strikers going to realise that they have a cat's chance in hell of winning this dispute? I am not even entirely sure what it is they are trying to win!
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:25
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I think the union and some of the striking crew are fooling themselves if they think BA won't continue with or without them, and whilst there is an element of short term pain for the airline, this will soon pass and we can all move on for a better future (the city certainly thinks so as well).

From posts on this forum and what I've witnessed on the ground and in the air, it is clear that this whole sorry affair has galvanised the troops and put the 'team' back into teamwork.
Almost without exception every department has upped their game, rolled up their sleeves and got on with it, many working long hours for little or no reward, and all in the name of being determined to see this through.

How the union thinks the non attendance of two or three thousand cabin crew can defeat a united work force of 35,000+ is beyond me.

I am in no way demeaning BA cabin crew cos the vast majority are very nice, hard working, skilled people ........... however, it has been shown over the past few months that a 'replacement' work force can be mobilised in a relatively short space of time and whilst they don't have the experience, they soon will have. Add to that the long line of people who would give their right arm to fly as BA cabin crew from other UK airlines and I think the 'head in the sand' brigade will soon realise that life will go on with or without them.

So let's set the scene, those that want to be part of a successful BA moving forward come and join us and see what a lovely place to work it has recently become. As for those that want to continue to cause trouble and spread their poison and propoganda, go find yourself a bouncy castle
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:28
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Unite Funds

I have likewise cancelled my subscription to unite, as probably have many other BA Engineers I can only hope in the HUNDREDS.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:30
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The number of people reporting for work may not be as BA suggests.

The number of people reporting at Bedfont may not be as Bassa suggests.

But two things are certain :

1) CRC is in a state of relative normality

2) Bedfont is mobbed
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:32
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£700,000 levy

It seems as if Unite will collect about £230 from each of its 3,000 branches.

Can someone enlighten me on something: does this mean that each branch has its own funds, or will members have to pay extra next quarter?
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:34
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The number of people reporting for work may not be as BA suggests.

The number of people reporting at Bedfont may not be as Bassa suggests.

But two things are certain :

1) CRC is in a state of relative normality

2) Bedfont is mobbed
I guess the difference is those at Bedfont will not all actually be striking, i.e. people on MBTs, annual leave, part time weeks, etc. Those who report at CRC/CBK are all there for their rostered duties.

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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:36
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But why would CRC be in anything other than a state of normality? People are reporting and flights are departing. You'd hardly expect it to be mobbed, would you?

Meanwhile Bedfont has plenty of friends, family and off duty non-striking crew members, which is a far higher pool to choose from, but I'd still bet they haven't got as many as have reported for work today.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 16:41
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Too simplistic?

Okay, so Unite are in this for the 'Longhaul' (pun intended)
During the elongated period of IA, CC recruitment surely will continue (new fleet), and, as time goes by, the 'strikers' become, er, 'less relevant'.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 17:11
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If Bedfont is so mobbed why did only 40 people turn out for the march down the Bath Road? Those are Met Police figures before anyone questions them.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 17:26
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Caribbean Boy £700,000 levy

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It seems as if Unite will collect about £230 from each of its 3,000 branches.

Can someone enlighten me on something: does this mean that each branch has its own funds, or will members have to pay extra next quarter?
I would suggest that the members will end up paying for it!!!!

I for one won't as I cancelled my membership when this debacle kicked off (it's very easy just contact Pay Services!!)

Together we stand UNITE we fall
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 17:27
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What is the protocol for non union members? Are they allowed to strike or are they on shaky ground by doing so?
You're not meant to strike and officially you're not legally allowed to, but you can bet that any union being supported by non members during IA would offer support in return for the employee if challenged by the company.
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