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Old 28th Mar 2010, 21:36
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More BASSA rubbish....

COME TO BEDFONT, WE NEED YOU! OUR STRIKE IS WORKING BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF IT.
Also from the latest BASSA missive....

After eagle eyed crew revealed the truth about mounting cancellations by simply monitoring BA.com. They are now attempting to conceal cancellations and empty departures by removing the F for “Freighter” prefix to the flight number and instead have added a one so the BA039 becomes the BA1039 in the departures. To the untrained eye it looks as though many more flights are departing. They are not, these are empty positioning aircraft because they have no crew. It’s concealment on a substantial scale, to try and win the PR battle, simply take a look for your self before they disguise it another way and you should be able to see this quite easily.
er...... the BA1039 is a 777 that departs LHR every Tuesday for Beijing. The reason for the '1' in front is nothing to do with BASSA paranoia. The return flight, BA1038 departs PEK at 2320Z, about four hours earlier than the normal BA038, which departs at 0315Z. The '1' is placed in front of the flight to distinguish is from the BA038 which also departs on GMT Tuesday.

To the untrained eye
Indeed.......

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Old 28th Mar 2010, 21:45
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It's something that has not really been debated on here and I would like to know the views of everyone about LGW turnout! is it that it is no real surprise that they have had nearly 100% turnout and as such is not really mentioned. What is it that has made one part of the crew turn up and virtually stick two fingers up at thier LHR ... Brothers and sisters ... I would be keen to know what effect this is having on striking crew and the views of some LGW crew as to why
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 22:09
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I drove past the South Terminal this morning on the A23, I noticed plenty of Unite flags on the grass verge, but only three picketers (although one of them was very enthusiatic in his flag waving).

It would seem that they are giving up on LGW and concentrating all their efforts on LHR (as has been suggested already).
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 22:13
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How's about this for a possible WW "end-game" choice for striking crew?

A: Stay on current contract with no staff travel.

OR

B: Offer New Fleet contracts to them with staff travel perk re-instated and new date of joining.

This way strikers are punished for damaging the company whilst loyal staff are rewarded. BASSA is destroyed and WW achieves his objectives.

Certainly some striking crew will value staff-travel differently. But to lose it FOREVER is something they possibly haven't given enough consideration to.

Just a thought.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 22:20
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I don't blame the engineers for this - I'm sure time constraints are to blame - but "ill maintained" doesn't imply substandard performance on the part of our (amazing) engineers.
Yes it does - unless the statement is qualified. It wasn't.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 22:31
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Engineers are not the only ones leaving Unite. I am ground staff and have left and I also know of others doing the same or thinking of it.

Unite can continue to deny that we are getting flights away, but we will continue to work hard to get customers away with the many crew who turn up.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 22:53
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The latest pitiful text message doing the rounds:

"In a recent vote of no confidence in Willie by the board, 6 board members voted no confidence, however 7 voted against. Spread the word."
As I said pitiful apart from being wholly untrue.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 22:56
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BA workers aren't the only workers leaving Unite on this after the "12 days of Christmas" which infuriated my sister, who is under the Unite mushroom cloud elsewhere
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 23:07
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There are only 10 BA Board members

BA Board
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 23:22
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That is funny.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 23:27
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Just one quick note about BA Engineers. The majority are the best paid in the UK. That was a deal sorted out by Unite(amicus/aeeu/aeu/eetpu).
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 00:57
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Eddy

But you can look through the tech log and see problems that just don't seem to get fixed.
May I suggest, as a BA pilot, you are way out of line here, with greatest respect, please stick to areas you are competent to comment on?

Unless you have an understanding of our MEL documents? If so, then what is the basis of your comment?

In a very southern destination at the mo, full aeroplane down here, huge round of applause from the waiting pax as the crew arrived at the gate, 12 cabin crew, 2 volunteers amongst them, very heavy BA management support for crew at destination, booked full load back to UK on Tuesday night. Crew very onside despite ops in a -400 with only 12. Strikers seem very irrelevant from here.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 01:50
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Strikers seem very irrelevant from here.
you'll find when you get back to base they're gradually becoming somewhat irrelevant here too !
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 02:42
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Litebulbs,

The engineers were the best paid in the UK before UNITE got involved, just as most work groups in BA are for historical reasons. The fact that UNITE were involved is purely coincidence, any union could have been representing them (or in fact no union) and they'd have had a similar result.

Re the latest missives from BASSA ref the board vote and other untruths, is there no way they can be prosecuted for telling such blatant lies?

Frustrated employee

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Old 29th Mar 2010, 06:53
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May I suggest, as a BA pilot, you are way out of line here, with greatest respect, please stick to areas you are competent to comment on?
How condescending.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 07:00
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Not really.

Quick question for Eddy, how often does he get to look through the tech log, what problems does he generally see, and what does he know about the MEL and deferred defects?
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 07:04
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How often do Pilots look at the ever growing list of un-fixed Cabin Defects that we have to put up with? The cabin interiors are a joke on many of our aircraft.

If you want to be superior cant you go and start your own thread 'I know more than you know'
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 07:05
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Originally Posted by bacabincrew
How often do Pilots look at the ever growing list of un-fixed Cabin Defects that we have to put up with? The cabin interiors are a joke on many of our aircraft.
Sorry, unusually for you, that's an own goal. We look at the AML Part 2 every time we fly.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 07:07
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Hi MrB - I was being a little tongue-in-cheek there - thats the big bug bear of crew - the poorly maintained interiors - again nothing to with the engineers as there is only so much the guys can do.
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Old 29th Mar 2010, 07:10
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bacabincrew....every single flight we review the cabing log and check it against said MEL (legal requirement), shame you don't know that.....maybe you should get your head back in the books concentrate on your job than spend your time on here spouting all the union lines.
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