BA IR issues
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From: South of France
ABird747
I'm a passenger, use your service, help pay your wages along with two hundred and thirty five others here who can fly BA premium. Obviously, our powers-that-be sat up and listened this morning...instruction just through to all PA's "Prepare to use alternative to BA for travel....."
Job done?
I'm a passenger, use your service, help pay your wages along with two hundred and thirty five others here who can fly BA premium. Obviously, our powers-that-be sat up and listened this morning...instruction just through to all PA's "Prepare to use alternative to BA for travel....."
Job done?
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From: glasgow
strike dates
Would be lying if I said I was happy about striking, but what other option do we have? Have been shafted by BA too many times in cost-cutting on other depts over the 16 years I've worked for them. Time to stand up for ourselves.
Anyone heard any rumours about when the strike(s) likely to happen? How much notice do BASSA have to give BA?
Katie
Anyone heard any rumours about when the strike(s) likely to happen? How much notice do BASSA have to give BA?
Katie
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From: London , Uk
Strike
Rumour has it will be the first week of Feb ..
I hope British Airways does not go Under for this strike and I heard the Franchise Airlines will do Charter Flights for BA Mainline with there spare Aircraft . This is not fact but just Rumour !!
I hope British Airways does not go Under for this strike and I heard the Franchise Airlines will do Charter Flights for BA Mainline with there spare Aircraft . This is not fact but just Rumour !!
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From: London
How will the strike really help us?
I can't see how the strike is going to help us as an airline? Lost revenue means that we will have to tighten our belts even more - the airline is convinced it needs 10% operating margin. That means any lost revenue/profit will force us to try even harder next year to meet 10%! And say good bye to the annual bonus! I think if cc are so cnvinced that they are being hard done by, they should challenge the company to independent arbitration, and then see who telling lies....
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From: BHX
Define the 'one way or the other'!
I would suggest
1. You surrender and get back to work in the real world
or
2. You end up with no job and have to get one in the real world.
Either way - get real and welcome to the world!
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From: London
Independent Viewpoint?
Sounds like after years of mistrust, we need a fresh new start and build up trust again! I think we need independent arbitration to help us (crew and management) to start building up some levels of trust again!
PS - I am not part of crew management in any way! just trying to add some common sense to the issues!
PS - I am not part of crew management in any way! just trying to add some common sense to the issues!
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From: Australia
Trust
My dear Sigmond,
Management are not interested and never have been. Had you experienced the conditions under which CC flew in the 60's/70's you would understand that BOAC/BA management never gave anything to CC. Everything that CC have today was hard fought for by your predecessors. The enemy is management.
Management are not interested and never have been. Had you experienced the conditions under which CC flew in the 60's/70's you would understand that BOAC/BA management never gave anything to CC. Everything that CC have today was hard fought for by your predecessors. The enemy is management.
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From: UK
Folks - forgive me for stepping in, but...
As with any industrial dispute, passions run hot and things can get pretty tense, especially if a dispute becoms protracted. Your mods will of course support your postings in here as best we can, but we also rely on all of you to post sensibly - by that we mean by arguing the issues and not the personalities: Everybody has a right to express their opinion, whether you may agree with it or not, and not everybody who takes a different view is a management stooge. This doesn't apply yet, but may do so in the future.
Please forgive me if I add one more point, from experience. In the initial heady rush of a decision to take action, it is easy to forget the grim realities of what is going to happen. The press and media may become hostile, and friends and family may take up positions that surprise you. Above all, however, remember that your take-home pay may be reduced whenever you have strike days, and you need to plan for this as best you can.
As with any industrial dispute, passions run hot and things can get pretty tense, especially if a dispute becoms protracted. Your mods will of course support your postings in here as best we can, but we also rely on all of you to post sensibly - by that we mean by arguing the issues and not the personalities: Everybody has a right to express their opinion, whether you may agree with it or not, and not everybody who takes a different view is a management stooge. This doesn't apply yet, but may do so in the future.
Please forgive me if I add one more point, from experience. In the initial heady rush of a decision to take action, it is easy to forget the grim realities of what is going to happen. The press and media may become hostile, and friends and family may take up positions that surprise you. Above all, however, remember that your take-home pay may be reduced whenever you have strike days, and you need to plan for this as best you can.
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From: London
I dont think we can strike about what happened in the 70s! we have to deal with things as they are today! that is the current management, the state of the industry, and the strength of the competition! Having views within our ranks thinking of the good old 70s will have Branson and O'Leary opening up the bubbly! Comeon guys and girls - lets have a REAL discussion with the management about the REAL issues of the day, namely pension and tc and cs
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From: glasgow
Thumperdown, I am in the real world and believe me I, like many others have not voted yes without thinking long and hard first.
I have been in the real world of British Airways for nearly 17 years. I have had my contract bought out for next to nothing (my choice but with false and ambiguous promises from management about how long my wages would be frozen)...then had my wage frozen for over 8 years. Then my office closed leaving me with the option to leave or commute from Glasgow to LGW. Both of these were cost cutting measures...leaving me now on the same wage I started on in 1990! Sorry, but it's someone elses turne(ie management) to cost cut now. I can barely afford to work for BA and commute as it is. If hourly rate comes in, I'll be off anyway.
Sorry if all this sounds selfish, but each of us has our own reason for voting yes.
katie
I have been in the real world of British Airways for nearly 17 years. I have had my contract bought out for next to nothing (my choice but with false and ambiguous promises from management about how long my wages would be frozen)...then had my wage frozen for over 8 years. Then my office closed leaving me with the option to leave or commute from Glasgow to LGW. Both of these were cost cutting measures...leaving me now on the same wage I started on in 1990! Sorry, but it's someone elses turne(ie management) to cost cut now. I can barely afford to work for BA and commute as it is. If hourly rate comes in, I'll be off anyway.
Sorry if all this sounds selfish, but each of us has our own reason for voting yes.
katie
