I dont think we can strike about what happened in the 70s! we have to deal with things as they are today! that is the current management, the state of the industry, and the strength of the competition! Having views within our ranks thinking of the good old 70s will have Branson and O'Leary opening up the bubbly! Comeon guys and girls - lets have a REAL discussion with the management about the REAL issues of the day, namely pension and tc and cs