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mouse78, at last something we can agree on: YOU do get paid appropriately for the work you do. The rest of us who do a good job deserve better.
funny how earlier you said you do more hours in mql than any other base, then you say you only work 30 hours per week. that's less than me and i'm a "lazy sydneysider".
you and regionalguy have no clue what you're talking about. i should nominate you for excel awards for raising morale by making us all laugh with your rubbish
funny how earlier you said you do more hours in mql than any other base, then you say you only work 30 hours per week. that's less than me and i'm a "lazy sydneysider".
you and regionalguy have no clue what you're talking about. i should nominate you for excel awards for raising morale by making us all laugh with your rubbish
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What misinformation ?
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what misinformation did i spread ? the three i mentioned earlier did put a notice in all mel crew mail boxes for a meeting on the 22nd. no misinformation there everyone in mel knows about they just didn't bother to show up at it so whats the problem ? if a meeting is going to be organised those organising it should at the very least be able to admit to doing it, or maybe they're a little embarassed at the turn up ???? And as for person to person, why should i be any different to anyone else they try to berate with their ignorance. no-one tells those three what they really think, everyone just gives them lips service, its become a bit of a joke amongst the rest of us actually.
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you are exactly what we don't need at the moment. you're very quick to turn on your fellow colleagues for expressing an opinion your criticism is just pathetic, although having read your previous posts thats all you can do it seems. if you've got nothing constructive or are just not able to be constructive why you don't do like your log in and just move on ? its clear your not happy and no one can change that little fact but you.
what misinformation did i spread ? the three i mentioned earlier did put a notice in all mel crew mail boxes for a meeting on the 22nd. no misinformation there everyone in mel knows about they just didn't bother to show up at it so whats the problem ? if a meeting is going to be organised those organising it should at the very least be able to admit to doing it, or maybe they're a little embarassed at the turn up ???? And as for person to person, why should i be any different to anyone else they try to berate with their ignorance. no-one tells those three what they really think, everyone just gives them lips service, its become a bit of a joke amongst the rest of us actually.
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you are exactly what we don't need at the moment. you're very quick to turn on your fellow colleagues for expressing an opinion your criticism is just pathetic, although having read your previous posts thats all you can do it seems. if you've got nothing constructive or are just not able to be constructive why you don't do like your log in and just move on ? its clear your not happy and no one can change that little fact but you.
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regionalguy,
The misinformation you are spreading is your erroneous assessment of the aim, purpose and outcome of a meeting you say you did not attend.
I don't understand how anyone can form such strong opinions based on assumptions.
The misinformation you are spreading is your erroneous assessment of the aim, purpose and outcome of a meeting you say you did not attend.
I don't understand how anyone can form such strong opinions based on assumptions.
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regionalguy, are you for real???
the more you say the bigger fool you make of yourself.
at first i laughed at what you wrote but now i'm worrried that someone like you works here. at the rate syd f/as have been covering mel flying i might end up working with you and that's a scary thought.
whatever happened to psych tests before someone is offered a job?
the more you say the bigger fool you make of yourself.
at first i laughed at what you wrote but now i'm worrried that someone like you works here. at the rate syd f/as have been covering mel flying i might end up working with you and that's a scary thought.
whatever happened to psych tests before someone is offered a job?
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Mycomments were not based on assumptions, we do talk at work you know and whether we attended or not, we've all had to endure the ramblings of the minority in mel base.
lots of crew (both mel and now syd base) simply saw it as another attempt by a certain individual to once again try (dismally i might add) elevate himself to a level of importance, only this time he has roped in the other two with him. a $25 charge to discuss an eba that we've rejected and to criticise the survey from the union and the union reps. of course the almighty with all his proven industrial knowledge and experience can do better for us. Lets see suggestions and problems reportedly were
Suggestion - mass resignations from the faaa Problem - no members no representation, Suggestion - join twu Problem - can't make company deal with them, Suggestion vote of no confidence in reps, Problem - don't know how we go about doing that !
......... "the blind leading the blind", "couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery".... pick one, either one they both fit perfectly.
If it was for the betterment of all our crew, all crew would have been invited to a meeting in their base, not just our base talking the dribble that is dished out to us.
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Mycomments were not based on assumptions, we do talk at work you know and whether we attended or not, we've all had to endure the ramblings of the minority in mel base.
lots of crew (both mel and now syd base) simply saw it as another attempt by a certain individual to once again try (dismally i might add) elevate himself to a level of importance, only this time he has roped in the other two with him. a $25 charge to discuss an eba that we've rejected and to criticise the survey from the union and the union reps. of course the almighty with all his proven industrial knowledge and experience can do better for us. Lets see suggestions and problems reportedly were
Suggestion - mass resignations from the faaa Problem - no members no representation, Suggestion - join twu Problem - can't make company deal with them, Suggestion vote of no confidence in reps, Problem - don't know how we go about doing that !
......... "the blind leading the blind", "couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery".... pick one, either one they both fit perfectly.
If it was for the betterment of all our crew, all crew would have been invited to a meeting in their base, not just our base talking the dribble that is dished out to us.
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Regional Guy,
You seem intent on causing trouble. All of the information you claim to have has been received second or third hand. Most of it is either untrue or distorted. This thread was started as a way for crew from all bases to share ideas about the proposed EBA, but you're using the anonymity it affords to spread gossip and lies about fellow colleagues, and that's really low.
You may not be aware of it but people in the base are talking about the messages you have posted, and it is not in positive terms. The more you write, the more you reveal about your identity. Your reputation is at stake so if I were you, I'd put more thought into my words and actions.
You seem intent on causing trouble. All of the information you claim to have has been received second or third hand. Most of it is either untrue or distorted. This thread was started as a way for crew from all bases to share ideas about the proposed EBA, but you're using the anonymity it affords to spread gossip and lies about fellow colleagues, and that's really low.
You may not be aware of it but people in the base are talking about the messages you have posted, and it is not in positive terms. The more you write, the more you reveal about your identity. Your reputation is at stake so if I were you, I'd put more thought into my words and actions.
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This is getting boring, everytime i post about what has happened in the mel base you get all defensive and accuse me of spreading mis information, lying about my colleagues blah blah blah
I've asked you to explain where i have spread mis information and you can't, i now ask you to state who i have lied about, or explain what trouble am i causing ?
You are right about one thing though, people in the base are talking, but they're talking about the futile attempts by certain members of our base to elevate themselves to areas way beyond their capabilities.
what i find most interesting is your defensivness to my posts when nothing i have ever posted has been untrue. although it does make me think why would you in particular be so upset by my posts ? perhaps its because their a little close the heart, your heart that is ????
YOU have been talking about my posts at work and its obviously driving you up the wall not knowing who i am. that alone has some people talking, your attempts to deduce who you think i am has been a talking point. just to remind you PPRUNE is a forum based on anonymity and as such i remain, unlike yourself, completely anonmious.
Oh and as for my reputation, its as it always has been.... great, but thanks anyway. there are certainly funnier personalities/reputations in mel base keeping the rest of us talking and laughing at the moment. Indeed it would take a mel based Feinnes moment to surpass our three amigoes for some lighthearted jocularity at this point.
Just to make myself clear here, we don't talk about them ALL the time, its all calmed down somewhat now, and life is slowly but gradually returning to normal, that is of course, until the next installment of the almighty and his mates. Thats not an invitation by the way, just an assumption that these three (unfortunately) may still think they've got the answers to all our problems
This is getting boring, everytime i post about what has happened in the mel base you get all defensive and accuse me of spreading mis information, lying about my colleagues blah blah blah
I've asked you to explain where i have spread mis information and you can't, i now ask you to state who i have lied about, or explain what trouble am i causing ?
You are right about one thing though, people in the base are talking, but they're talking about the futile attempts by certain members of our base to elevate themselves to areas way beyond their capabilities.
what i find most interesting is your defensivness to my posts when nothing i have ever posted has been untrue. although it does make me think why would you in particular be so upset by my posts ? perhaps its because their a little close the heart, your heart that is ????
YOU have been talking about my posts at work and its obviously driving you up the wall not knowing who i am. that alone has some people talking, your attempts to deduce who you think i am has been a talking point. just to remind you PPRUNE is a forum based on anonymity and as such i remain, unlike yourself, completely anonmious.
Oh and as for my reputation, its as it always has been.... great, but thanks anyway. there are certainly funnier personalities/reputations in mel base keeping the rest of us talking and laughing at the moment. Indeed it would take a mel based Feinnes moment to surpass our three amigoes for some lighthearted jocularity at this point.
Just to make myself clear here, we don't talk about them ALL the time, its all calmed down somewhat now, and life is slowly but gradually returning to normal, that is of course, until the next installment of the almighty and his mates. Thats not an invitation by the way, just an assumption that these three (unfortunately) may still think they've got the answers to all our problems
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browneyedgirl,
I don't think I can top your post, but here goes.
regionalguy,
First of all, I've already said in the past, if you want to discuss specific issues, do so face to face with the people in question. If you think it's acceptable to rubbish your colleages behind the cover of anonymity, then your notion of integrity is very different from that of the other people I know.
Secondly, my last post addressed to you was intended as friendly advice. If you choose to take it the wrong way, I can't be held responsible.
Thirdly, you may think it's clever to figure out my identity. There is no skill in discovering the identity of someone who doesn't cover it up. I have no reason to, since I don't abuse this forum to attack, degrade and insult my colleagues.
Finally, I do agree with you: this is becoming boring, so if I don't respond to your future posts it isn't because I feel defeated. It will be becuase I don't want to continue this pointless discussion.
I don't think I can top your post, but here goes.
regionalguy,
First of all, I've already said in the past, if you want to discuss specific issues, do so face to face with the people in question. If you think it's acceptable to rubbish your colleages behind the cover of anonymity, then your notion of integrity is very different from that of the other people I know.
Secondly, my last post addressed to you was intended as friendly advice. If you choose to take it the wrong way, I can't be held responsible.
Thirdly, you may think it's clever to figure out my identity. There is no skill in discovering the identity of someone who doesn't cover it up. I have no reason to, since I don't abuse this forum to attack, degrade and insult my colleagues.
Finally, I do agree with you: this is becoming boring, so if I don't respond to your future posts it isn't because I feel defeated. It will be becuase I don't want to continue this pointless discussion.
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wrong so wrong its funny, . perhaps its because "Warren" hasn't bothered to keep up the pretence that most in our base have with you lot that you assume its him..... but please keep on trying
EAAFA
pointless is right, you and your mates are pointless and if you think for one moment you will stop me from expressing not only my views but the views of many others, you too are wrong, very very wrong.
your defensive because i'm right and its expressing these views has just been a long time coming. you won't respond to my posts any more, gee what a shame, not sure how i'll sleep tonight.
wrong so wrong its funny, . perhaps its because "Warren" hasn't bothered to keep up the pretence that most in our base have with you lot that you assume its him..... but please keep on trying
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pointless is right, you and your mates are pointless and if you think for one moment you will stop me from expressing not only my views but the views of many others, you too are wrong, very very wrong.
your defensive because i'm right and its expressing these views has just been a long time coming. you won't respond to my posts any more, gee what a shame, not sure how i'll sleep tonight.
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eaafa, you are too polite for your own good. what you write obviously goes over regionalguy's head. the guy is a negative, narrow minded hypocrite. what kind of 
hole sledges his workmates and talks about a confidential meeting online? it makes me want to 
. i think he's pissed off coz he was planning to resign as soon as he got his backpay, and now he has to stick around and wait and see if he gets his money. no one with a brain would accept that eba if they wanted to stay in this job.
hole sledges his workmates and talks about a confidential meeting online? it makes me want to . i think he's pissed off coz he was planning to resign as soon as he got his backpay, and now he has to stick around and wait and see if he gets his money. no one with a brain would accept that eba if they wanted to stay in this job.
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you've got a short memory mate, you had some choice words to say about our union rep when the vote was happening and all he did was give up his own time on everybodies behalf, sure it was a crap deal but he gave up his time for us and certainly wasn't to blame ...... although what am i thinking don't you consider syd/mql base crew as your colleagues let alone your mates .... its all about mel base isn't it....... and you've got the hide to call me narrow minded. all my posts have been on the basis of sticking together and staying united, all bases, all crew, hardly narrow minded.
my posts are definately a shot at those who believe breakaway clandestine meetings to discuss "the future" of eaa crew without the invlovement or ability to be involved for all eaa crew is a joke a joke to be precise. not only that but the quality of information and discussion was imbecilic at best. i posted some of the discussions topics and have they been denied, no of course not how could they be its the truth. well having said that they could be denied, but it would only further expose the calibre of these individuals as leaders publicly
oh and i hate to rain on your little parade pal but i'm not now, nor was i ever going anywhere and just in case you missed it, we're not getting our back pay, we were told that pretty clearly when the vote came back so if i was "warren" and was only hanging around for that, surely i'd have left by now ?
just like browneyedgirl and eaafa you need to try again ........ god forbid you lot accept that you don't talk for the majority and they'res a lot of crew in the mel base who take a very dim view of our three amigoes whether they're prepared to say it face to face, on here or not at all, does not change the fact that thats how people think. if your hearing comments reflecting my posts maybe, just maybe, its because we're getting sick and tired of your ramblings and futile attempts to grandstand, proportedly on behalf of eaa crew, when in reality it's transparent that its all about individual egos and not much else.
you've got a short memory mate, you had some choice words to say about our union rep when the vote was happening and all he did was give up his own time on everybodies behalf, sure it was a crap deal but he gave up his time for us and certainly wasn't to blame ...... although what am i thinking don't you consider syd/mql base crew as your colleagues let alone your mates .... its all about mel base isn't it....... and you've got the hide to call me narrow minded. all my posts have been on the basis of sticking together and staying united, all bases, all crew, hardly narrow minded.
my posts are definately a shot at those who believe breakaway clandestine meetings to discuss "the future" of eaa crew without the invlovement or ability to be involved for all eaa crew is a joke a
joke to be precise. not only that but the quality of information and discussion was imbecilic at best. i posted some of the discussions topics and have they been denied, no of course not how could they be its the truth. well having said that they could be denied, but it would only further expose the calibre of these individuals as leaders publiclyoh and i hate to rain on your little parade pal but i'm not now, nor was i ever going anywhere and just in case you missed it, we're not getting our back pay, we were told that pretty clearly when the vote came back so if i was "warren" and was only hanging around for that, surely i'd have left by now ?
just like browneyedgirl and eaafa you need to try again ........ god forbid you lot accept that you don't talk for the majority and they'res a lot of crew in the mel base who take a very dim view of our three amigoes whether they're prepared to say it face to face, on here or not at all, does not change the fact that thats how people think. if your hearing comments reflecting my posts maybe, just maybe, its because we're getting sick and tired of your ramblings and futile attempts to grandstand, proportedly on behalf of eaa crew, when in reality it's transparent that its all about individual egos and not much else.
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Then what ARE you hanging around for? PISS OFF! We dont need backstabbing people like you. No matter what happens with the EBA...........how the hell did YOU get a job here? So glad I am up north away from you. I am done with listening to the ramblings of a MORON. Keep as far away from us as possible. Heaven help the Melbourne crew if you are an example of unity and togetherness. This thread is done......but mate.........watch how you treat your fellow workmates. I waste no more time on you. The End.
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You People!
Okay I have had a week away to come back and look at the poo you guys have been chucking at each other!!!!!
So much for a united stand, it is SYD vs MEL/MQL and if you wanted to slang MQL you should have done it in public, not have done it personally! For those who think this EBA is st then go shag some hollywood star! I am sick of this stuff and the personal attacks on people i know and care about! If you have a problem then contact me personally! All you have to do is send me a message via internal mail. And if you dont have the balls then get off PPrune, and let those of us with a decent point of view stay on.
OOORRAAHHH to MEL base!
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So much for a united stand, it is SYD vs MEL/MQL and if you wanted to slang MQL you should have done it in public, not have done it personally! For those who think this EBA is s
t then go shag some hollywood star! I am sick of this stuff and the personal attacks on people i know and care about! If you have a problem then contact me personally! All you have to do is send me a message via internal mail. And if you dont have the balls then get off PPrune, and let those of us with a decent point of view stay on.OOORRAAHHH to MEL base!
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gee browneyed how terriblly dramatic (not to mention rough as guts) of you.
quite pathetic really how you try to blame me for disunity in the mel base, when i was not the one to set up the b t meeting and have no-one show up ! that screams unity doesn't it ????? what about syd base, what about mql ? don't suppose anyone actually thought outside that little box did they ? can't imagine how we will get on if these individuals aren't leading us into our employment future. F K ME, it just doesn't get any more infantile than this.
i might say some things on here that certain individuals don't like but thats only certain individuals who have reacted because i've clearly hit a raw nerve. leaders should be able to accept criticism and learn from it, answer questions and provide insight. its abundantly clear this lot can't, they've made a few suggestions, but just a minor hitch, they're all BAD, are of no benefit to us and they have no idea how to implement them even if they were a potential way forward.
by the way i see your ".....but mate......watch how you treat your fellow workmates". threat the same way i see their leadship, IDLE, INFANTILE AND BASELESS.
an end to this thread, gee why's that, ? a little too hot in the kitchen sweetheart ??? i've enjoyed the fact that you've reacted to my posts, have not had any tangible answers to my questions and are now pulling the plug when i continue to state my case. (gee what great union reps you'd all be) all of this is thereby informing any eaa crew member from any eaa base, that you are not leaders, just egotisical fools with ideas of grandure, way way beyond your capabilities. you are very happy to throw stones at those that do put themselves out for us because you didn't like what was presented yet have not yourselves displayed an iota of the qualities necessary to do the job.
perhaps a return to MSN is the way for you guys, that way you'll only hear what you want to hear from those you want to listen to and can then continue to operate at your own childish, self absorbed level. it gets a little hard when people who have a mind of their own, have the audacity to use it. best go back to your comfort or should i say twilight zone.
thank you, thank you for taking part in what has turned out to be a very successful, yet unplanned exercise of exposure !!!
quite pathetic really how you try to blame me for disunity in the mel base, when i was not the one to set up the b
t meeting and have no-one show up ! that screams unity doesn't it ????? what about syd base, what about mql ? don't suppose anyone actually thought outside that little box did they ? can't imagine how we will get on if these individuals aren't leading us into our employment future. F K ME, it just doesn't get any more infantile than this. i might say some things on here that certain individuals don't like but thats only certain individuals who have reacted because i've clearly hit a raw nerve. leaders should be able to accept criticism and learn from it, answer questions and provide insight. its abundantly clear this lot can't, they've made a few suggestions, but just a minor hitch, they're all BAD, are of no benefit to us and they have no idea how to implement them even if they were a potential way forward.
by the way i see your ".....but mate......watch how you treat your fellow workmates". threat the same way i see their leadship, IDLE, INFANTILE AND BASELESS.
an end to this thread, gee why's that, ? a little too hot in the kitchen sweetheart ??? i've enjoyed the fact that you've reacted to my posts, have not had any tangible answers to my questions and are now pulling the plug when i continue to state my case. (gee what great union reps you'd all be) all of this is thereby informing any eaa crew member from any eaa base, that you are not leaders, just egotisical fools with ideas of grandure, way way beyond your capabilities. you are very happy to throw stones at those that do put themselves out for us because you didn't like what was presented yet have not yourselves displayed an iota of the qualities necessary to do the job.
perhaps a return to MSN is the way for you guys, that way you'll only hear what you want to hear from those you want to listen to and can then continue to operate at your own childish, self absorbed level. it gets a little hard when people who have a mind of their own, have the audacity to use it. best go back to your comfort or should i say twilight zone.
thank you, thank you for taking part in what has turned out to be a very successful, yet unplanned exercise of exposure !!!
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ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, if only we could take on management the way we take on each other....
Why dont we grow some balls and "just do it" instead of arguing between ourselves.........
Ive lost count of how many times ive heard the words "WE CANT DO THAT" when suggestions are made about action we can take...... Stop using the word CAN'T and figure out a way we can, and then maybe things will get done.....this situation isnt an easy one and i know there are alot of intellegent people at both bases so lets put our heads together instead of banging them together.
Oh....... and just a reminder "please remain seated until the captain turns off the fasten seatbelt sign".... PEACE
Why dont we grow some balls
and "just do it" instead of arguing between ourselves.........Ive lost count of how many times ive heard the words "WE CANT DO THAT" when suggestions are made about action we can take...... Stop using the word CAN'T and figure out a way we can, and then maybe things will get done.....this situation isnt an easy one and i know there are alot of intellegent people at both bases so lets put our heads together instead of banging them together.
Oh....... and just a reminder "please remain seated until the captain turns off the fasten seatbelt sign".... PEACE
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mouse78, I hope you I haven't offended you. I try hard to stay objective and impersonal, but unfortunately some people are determined to drag this discussion into the gutter.
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Brett........its a pity you didnt put as much effort into trying to negotiate a better package for us. Stop slamming everyone else for having an opinion. We are all getting tired of your "grandstanding"
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"thank you, thank you for taking part in what has turned out to be a very successful, yet unplanned exercise of exposure "
It seems more to me as if this was a planned exercise of dividing the bases so as to weaken our cause.
Luckily, from the lack of support you are getting, I'd say the exercise has been anything but succesful.
And by the way, you suggest that I was wrong in guessing your identity: I didn't say I knew who you were. I said that you are leaving clues about your identity.
Now, can we please return to what matters? Have any dates for FAAA meetings been announced yet? We haven't had any updates in Melbourne for a while.
It seems more to me as if this was a planned exercise of dividing the bases so as to weaken our cause.
Luckily, from the lack of support you are getting, I'd say the exercise has been anything but succesful.
And by the way, you suggest that I was wrong in guessing your identity: I didn't say I knew who you were. I said that you are leaving clues about your identity.
Now, can we please return to what matters? Have any dates for FAAA meetings been announced yet? We haven't had any updates in Melbourne for a while.
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Gee, you take a little time off and this discussion gets real nasty! i'm big enough to admit i was wrong about who reg is. browneyedgirl, you hit the nail on the head! it all falls into place! bi is the only one in syd who is obsessed with af, the meeting and the msn group. ha ha
he should stick to posting nude pix of himself on the net instead of posting his opinions. neither is palatable but at least the pix are on restricted sites and easy to avoid!
eaafa, sorry, had to get that off my chest. haven't heard anything from the union re meetings either...
he should stick to posting nude pix of himself on the net instead of posting his opinions. neither is palatable but at least the pix are on restricted sites and easy to avoid!
eaafa, sorry, had to get that off my chest. haven't heard anything from the union re meetings either...